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  • #31
    Originally posted by PVNICK View Post
    I would have thought Steve Rogers would have made the list.
    He did, I inadvertently typed Kenny instead of Steve. It's been corrected.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by NJRob65 View Post

      He did, I inadvertently typed Kenny instead of Steve. It's been corrected.
      Kenny is "always on our minds" at this time; RIP Brady Hawkes.

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      • #33
        Arizona Diamondbacks:

        C- Miguel Montero
        1B- Paul Goldschmidt
        2B- Orlando Hudson
        3B(SS/2B)- Craig Counsell
        SS(2B/CF)- Ketel Marte
        LF- Luis Gonzalez
        CF- A.J. Pollack
        RF- Justin Upton
        SP- Randy Johnson
        SP- Brandon Webb
        SP- Curt Schilling
        SP- Zack Greinke
        SP- Dan Haren
        SP- Patrick Corbin
        SP- Robbie Ray
        SP/RP- Miguel Batista
        RP- Brad Ziegler
        RP- Byung-Hyun Kim
        RP- Jose Valverde

        Reserves:

        CF- Steve Finley
        CF/LF/RF- Ender Inciarte
        LF/RF- David Peralta
        2B/SS- Jean Segura
        CF- Chris Young
        SS- Nick Ahmed
        SS- Stephen Drew

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        • #34
          Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post
          Just for fun, what is your favorite baseball team and can you name the closest player at each position to the HOF or the best HOFer at a given position? Can you fill out a 26 man roster?

          For example, I'm a Mets fan:

          1B: Keith Hernandez
          2B: Jeff Kent
          SS: Jose Reyes
          3B: David Wright
          C: Mike Piazza
          LF: Cleon Jones
          CF: Carlos Beltran
          RF: Darryl Strawberry
          SP: Tom Seaver
          SP: Doc Gooden
          SP: Jacob deGrom
          SP: Nolan Ryan
          SP: Jerry Koosman
          RP: Billy Wagner
          RP: John Franco
          RP: Roger McDowell
          RP: Tug McGraw
          RP: Jesse Orosco
          SP/RP: David Cone
          SP/RP: Ron Darling
          C2: Gary Carter
          Bench: Edgardo Alfonso
          Bench: Howard Johnson
          Bench: Mookie Wilson
          Bench: Jerry Grote
          Bench: John Olerud
          MGR: Gil Hodges

          Bold - HOFer
          Italics - pHOF but not in the HOF.
          Well, JJ, I'd like to thank you for doing my list for me.
          Put it in the books.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by NJRob65 View Post

            He did, I inadvertently typed Kenny instead of Steve. It's been corrected.
            I'm embarrassed to say I totally missed that.

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            • #36
              Toronto Blue Jays:

              C- Ernie Whitt
              1B- Carlos Delgado
              2B- Roberto Alomar
              3B- Josh Donaldson
              SS- Tony Fernandez
              LF- George Bell
              CF- Devon White
              RF- Jose Bautista
              SP- Dave Stieb
              SP- Roy Halladay
              SP- Jimmy Key
              SP- Roger Clemens
              SP- Juan Guzman
              SP- Doyle Alexander
              SP/RP- Jim Clancy
              RP- Paul Quantrill
              RP- Mark Eichorn
              RP- Duane Ward
              RP- Tom Henke

              Reserves:

              RF- Jesse Barfield
              1B- Fred McGriff
              1B/3B- Edwin Encarnacion
              1B- John Olerud
              RF- Alex Rios
              CF- Vernon Wells
              CF- Lloyd Moseby

              MGR-Cito Gaston
              GM- Pat Gillick
              Last edited by NJRob65; 03-23-2020, 05:22 PM.

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              • #37
                Boston Red Sox- Lot of difficult decisions, tremendous amount of talent:

                C- Carlton Fisk
                1B- Jimmie Foxx
                2B- Dustin Pedroia
                3B- Wade Boggs
                SS- Nomar Garciaparra
                LF- Ted Williams
                CF- Tris Speaker
                RF- Dwight Evans
                SP- Roger Clemens
                SP- Cy Young
                SP- Pedro Martinez
                SP- Lefty Grove
                SP- Luis Tiant
                SP- Smoky Joe Wood
                SP- Dutch Leonard
                RP/SP- Ellis Kinder
                RP- Dick Radatz
                RP- Jonathan Papelbon

                Reserves:

                LF/1B- Carl Yastrzemski
                RF/CF- Mookie Betts
                SS/3B- Johnny Pesky
                2B- Bobby Doerr
                DH- David Ortiz
                CF- Fred Lynn
                1B/3B- Kevin Youkilis
                LF/SP- Babe Ruth

                Mgr- Terry Francona
                GM- Theo Epstein

                Other worthy candidates include:

                CF- Dom DiMaggio
                CF- Reggie Smith
                SS/3B- Rico Petrocelli
                SS/3B- John Valentin
                LF- Jim Rice
                LF- Manny Ramirez
                3B- Jimmy Collins
                SS- Joe Cronin

                SP-Jon Lester
                SP- Wes Ferrell
                SP- Mel Parnell
                SP/RP- Tim Wakefield
                RP/SP- Derek Lowe
                RP/SP- Bob Stanley

                Last edited by NJRob65; 03-23-2020, 05:31 PM.

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                • #38
                  St. Louis Cardinals (4-season minimum to qualify) HOFers in Bold. Personal HOFers that are not Cooperstown members (including active players) are in italics.

                  C - T. Simmons
                  1B - A. Pujols
                  2B - R. Hornsby
                  SS - O. Smith

                  3B - K. Boyer
                  LF- S. Musial
                  CF- J. Edmonds
                  RF- E. Slaughter

                  C-Y. Molina (Torre is in, but as a manager. Molina has a better chance of getting in as a player than Torre)
                  1B- J. Mize
                  2B- F. Frisch
                  SS- B. Wallace

                  3B- S. Rolen
                  LF- L. Brock
                  CF- C. Flood
                  PH/DH - R. Connor

                  SP- B. Gibson
                  SP- D. Dean
                  SP- S. Carlton
                  SP- G.C. Alexander
                  SP- B. Caruthers
                  SP - B. Grimes
                  SP- J. Haines

                  SP - A. Wainwright
                  RP- B. Sutter
                  RP- L. Smith



                  C. Hafey, J. Bottomly, and, R. Shoendienst all meet my arbitrary criteria of service-years and are in Cooperstown, but are behind multiple other HOFers at their positions. K. Herandez and M. McGwire are too more 1B who may find themselves in the HOF at some point through some avenue. Brecheen has a similar case to Wainwright.
                  Last edited by Bothrops Atrox; 03-23-2020, 05:55 PM.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Bothrops Atrox View Post
                    St. Louis Cardinals (4-season minimum to qualify) HOFers in Bold.

                    C - T. Simmons
                    1B - A. Pujols
                    2B - R. Hornsby
                    SS - O. Smith

                    3B - K. Boyer
                    LF- S. Musial
                    CF- J. Edmonds
                    RF- E. Slaughter

                    C- Y. Molina (Torre is in, but as a manager. Molina has a better chance of getting in as a player than Torre)
                    1B- J. Mize
                    2B- F. Frisch
                    SS- B. Wallace
                    3B-
                    S. Rolen
                    LF- L. Brock
                    CF-
                    C. Flood
                    PH/DH - R. Connor

                    SP- B. Gibson
                    SP- D. Dean
                    SP- S. Carlton
                    SP- G.C. Alexander
                    SP- B. Caruthers
                    SP - B. Grimes
                    SP- J. Haines

                    SP - A. Wainwright
                    RP- B. Sutter
                    RP- L. Smith



                    Hafey, Bottomly, and, Shoendienst all meet my arbitrary criteria of service-years and are in Cooperstown, but are behind multiple other HOFers at their positions. Herandez and McGwire are too more 1B who may find themselves in the HOF at some point through some avenue. Brecheen has a similar case to Wainwright.
                    If you have Boyer, Edmonds, Rolen or anyone else who has yet to be inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame, but is in your personal Hall of Fame, you could denote that, by writing their names in italics.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by NJRob65 View Post

                      If you have Boyer, Edmonds, Rolen or anyone else who has yet to be inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame, but is in your personal Hall of Fame, you could denote that, by writing their names in italics.
                      Done........
                      1885 1886 1926 1931 1934 1942 1944 1946 1964 1967 1982 2006 2011

                      1887 1888 1928 1930 1943 1968 1985 1987 2004 2013

                      1996 2000 2001 2002 2005 2009 2012 2014 2015


                      The Top 100 Pitchers In MLB History
                      The Top 100 Position Players In MLB History

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                      • #41
                        For MY Red Sox...

                        Manager Terry Francona

                        Starting Lineup (8)
                        C: Carlton Fisk
                        1B: David Ortiz (his defensive position was first base and I'm sticking with it!)
                        2B: Bobby Doerr
                        3B: Wade Boggs
                        SS: Joe Cronin
                        LF: franchise HOFer/HOF-caliber players for four consecutive generations on a team not named the Yankees, but the answer here is obviously Ted Williams
                        CF: Tris Speaker
                        RF: Dwight Evans

                        Staff (10)
                        SP: Roger Clemens, Cy Young, Lefty Grove, Pedro Martinez, Luis Tiant
                        RP: Tim Wakefield, Bob Stanley, Ellis Kinder, Mike Timlin
                        CP: Jonathan Papelbon

                        Bench (8)
                        C Jason Varitek
                        IF Dustin Pedroia
                        IF Nomar Garciaparra
                        IF Rico Petrocelli
                        OF/1B Jim Rice
                        OF/1B Carl Yastrzemski
                        OF Manny Ramirez
                        OF Fred Lynn

                        (HOFers bolded, pHOFers italicized)
                        Last edited by pedrosrotatorcuff; 03-25-2020, 09:14 AM.
                        They don’t think it be like it is, but it do.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by pedrosrotatorcuff;n3567652
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                          LF:[/B] franchise HOFer/HOF-caliber players for four consecutive generations on a team not named the Yankees, but the answer here is obviously Ted Williams
                          Splinter, Yaz, Jim Ed...who's the fourth? There's an intervening generation between Rice and Manny, isn't there? Greenwell was good, but HOF seems a bit much, even to me.

                          I guess you must mean Manny...he was a rookie (with Cleveland) only five years after Rice bowed out, so if you look at it that way...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Cougar View Post

                            Splinter, Yaz, Jim Ed...who's the fourth? There's an intervening generation between Rice and Manny, isn't there? Greenwell was good, but HOF seems a bit much, even to me.

                            I guess you must mean Manny...he was a rookie (with Cleveland) only five years after Rice bowed out, so if you look at it that way...
                            yeah. my thinking was this:

                            Silent Generation (1928-45): Williams
                            Boomers (1946-65): Yaz
                            Gen-Xers (1966-83): Rice
                            Millennials (1984-1996): Ramirez

                            Maybe give or take a year or two for each mark I went by aside from the start of the Boomers.
                            They don’t think it be like it is, but it do.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Cougar View Post

                              Greenwell was good, but HOF seems a bit much, even to me.
                              Yeah, he did actually have a few All-Star seasons, and was the (distant) runner-up in the '88 MVP vote. He also holds the MLB records for most RBIs in a game while accounting for all of his team's runs (from this 1996 game vs. the Mariners), as well as the most game-winning RBIs in a season (23, in 1988.)
                              They don’t think it be like it is, but it do.

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                              • #45
                                Chicago White Sox:

                                C- Carlton Fisk
                                1B(DH)- Frank Thomas
                                2B- Eddie Collins
                                3B- Robin Ventura
                                SS- Luke Appling
                                LF- Minnie Minoso
                                CF- Chet Lemon
                                RF- Harold Baines
                                SP- Ed Walsh
                                SP- Ted Lyons
                                SP- Urban "Red" Faber
                                SP- Eddie Cicotte
                                SP- Billy Pierce
                                SP-Mark Buehrle
                                SP- Chris Sale
                                SP/RP- Wilbur Wood
                                RP- Keith Foulke
                                RP- Hoyt Wilhelm

                                Reserves:

                                2B- Nellie Fox
                                SS- George Davis
                                LF- Shoeless Joe Jackson
                                SS- Luis Aparicio
                                CF- Fielder Jones
                                RF- Magglio Ordonez
                                1B- Dick Allen
                                C- Ray Schalk

                                Note: Paul Konerko-1B has a a -3.7bWAA & is not ranked. Harold Baines wouldn't be on the team if he hadn't been egregiously sealed to the Hall of Fame by Today's Gam Era Committee in December 2018. Sherm Lollar, catcher, would be ranked as a reserve instead of Ray Schalk, who was included because he was selected to the HoF by the Veteran's Committee.

                                MGR: Al Lopez
                                Owner: Bill Veeck

                                Last edited by NJRob65; 03-24-2020, 06:32 PM.

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