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  • BBF HOF 1-12 to 2-1-08 voting thread

    Let the voting begin! For anyone who has not participated before, please read the rules posted here

    The Rules

    Those players receiving only one ballot in an election may go on to a list from which voters may only vote for a limited number of such candidates. For more details on this rule, please follow the above link to the Rules. For this election, you may not select more than three (3) from this list:

    Code:
    Berger, Wally
    Bond, Tommy**
    Canseco, Jose**
    Cash, Norm**
    Johnson, Bob
    Jones, Charley*
    Kingman, Dave**
    Long, Herman
    Mathews, Bobby**
    McCormick, Jim**
    O'Neill, Tip*
    Pike, Lip
    Pinson, Vada**
    Smith, Reggie
    Tiernan, Mike*
    For more details on this rule, please consult the link to the Rules above, and to this post: Limited Selection List

    Also, please note that now ballots as short as zero (0) names are now permitted. However, if a voter intends to cast a ballot naming no one, this must be clearly communicated or the ballot will not count.

    Voting in this cycle will end at 11:59:59 pm Eastern Time, February 1, 2007.

    Other information of note is who is in the BBF HOF.

    BBF HOF membership by category

    BBF HOF membership listed alphabetically

    Last month's results are posted. You are requested to pay particular attention to those individuals receiving 50% or more of the vote last election, as they are the most likely candidates to be elected this month. In fact, I have specific posts on players receiving 50% or more of last month's vote:

    Results of last election

    Those with 50% or more last election

    I have also posted this with respect to the status of the project:

    Project Status

    I have posted all the players who have exceeded 50% of the vote at least once without yet being elected

    50%+ voting history

    Also, please note that you can access the last voting thread here.
    Last edited by jalbright; 01-13-2008, 05:58 AM.
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

  • #2
    My 1/12 - 2/1/08 ballot

    key:
    red=Japanese League
    blue=Negro Leagues
    green=19th century

    Cupid Childs and Wilbur Cooper replace the elected Dobie Moore and Joe Sewell

    Players

    1. Sal Bando, 3b
    2. Akira Bessho, p (Japan)
    3. Ken Boyer, 3b
    4. Cupid Childs, 2b
    5. Wilbur Cooper, p
    6. Leon Day, p
    7. Larry Doyle, 2b
    8. Darrell Evans, 3b
    9. Jack Glasscock, ss
    10. Burleigh Grimes, p
    11. Tony Mullane, p
    12. Hiromitsu Ochiai 1B/3B (Japan)
    13. Alejandro Oms, of
    14. Dan Quisenberry, p
    15. Sam Rice, of
    16. Hardy Richardson, 2b
    17. Eppa Rixey, p
    18. Red Ruffing p
    19. Joe Start, 1b
    20. Vern Stephens, ss
    21. Bruce Sutter, p
    22. Ezra Sutton, 3b
    23. Bobby Wallace, ss
    24. Vic Willis, p
    25. Hack Wilson, of

    Anyone who wants more information on these or other players, please see my latest player voting guide
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

    Comment


    • #3
      Jake Beckley, 1b
      Akira Bessho, p
      Ken Boyer, 3b
      Roger Bresnahan, c
      Pete Browning, of
      Jose Canseco, of
      Larry Doyle, 2b
      Darrell Evans, 3b
      Dwight Evans, of
      Burleigh Grimes, p
      Addie Joss, p
      Dave Kingman, 1b
      Chuck Klein, of
      Edgar Martinez, 3b
      Dan Quisenberry, p
      Rafael Palmeiro, 1b
      Sam Rice, of
      Eppa Rixey, p
      Red Ruffing, p
      Joe Start, 1b
      Bruce Sutter, p
      Bobby Wallace, ss
      Mickey Welch, p
      Jimmy Wynn, of
      Vic Willis, p
      My dream ballpark dimensions
      LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
      RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
      Location....San Diego

      Comment


      • #4
        Jake Beckley
        Chief Bender
        Bobby Bonds
        Jim Bottomley
        Pete Browning
        Kiki Cuyler
        Burleigh Grimes
        Addie Joss
        Chuck Klein
        Heinie Manush
        Al Oliver
        Dan Quisenberry
        Jim Rice
        Sam Rice
        Eppa Rixey
        Jimmy Ryan
        Lee Smith
        Bruce Sutter
        Larry Walker
        Bobby Wallace
        Lloyd Waner
        Mickey Welch
        Vic Willis
        Hack Wilson
        Ross Youngs
        Last edited by Cowtipper; 01-19-2008, 02:31 PM.

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        • #5
          Jake Beckley
          Chief Bender
          Pete Browning
          Roger Bresnahan
          Cupid Childs
          Leon Day
          Larry Doyle
          Lefty Gomez
          Burleigh Grimes
          Addie Joss
          Chuck Klein
          Rabbit Maranville
          Tony Mullane
          Thurman Munson
          Lip Pike
          Dan Quisenberry
          Sam Rice
          Hardy Richardson
          Eppa Rixey
          Red Ruffing
          Joe Start
          Bruce Sutter
          Bobby Wallace
          Mickey Welch
          Hack Wilson
          Last edited by jjpm74; 01-31-2008, 09:02 AM.

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          • #6
            nameFirst nameLast
            Jake Beckley
            Wally Berger
            Roger Bresnahan
            Cupid Childs
            Gavvy Cravath
            Darrell Evans
            Dwight Evans
            Jack Glasscock
            Charley Jones
            Charlie Keller
            Tommy Leach
            Herman Long
            Cal McVey
            Graig Nettles
            Rafael Palmeiro
            Dickey Pearce
            Dan Quisenberry
            Eppa Rixey
            Red Ruffing
            Jimmy Ryan
            Jimmy Sheckard
            Joe Start
            Larry Walker
            Bobby Wallace
            Jimmy Wynn

            I expect that this will change but maybe not. (Among other things, I will be traveling in two weeks until just before the polls close.) Anyway why shouldn't I be a point of reference and why should all the Eppa Rixey naysayers vote first?

            This is simply my previous ballot plus Childs and Dwight Evans.
            I am restricted. There I decided to stick with my three solo votes (Berger, Jones, Long) to see whether that provokes anyone else.

            Most likely to drop if I see the light on Klein, Sutter, Doyle, Boyer, or Bessho: probably Evans, Palmeiro, Walker
            Someone has already added a good point on Boyer, arguing for military service credit before his debut.

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            • #7
              Jake Beckley
              Akira Bessho
              Ken Boyer
              Pete Browning
              Kiki Cuyler
              Leon Day
              Larry Doyle
              Lefty Gomez
              Burleigh Grimes
              Addie Joss
              Chuck Klein
              Ernie Lombardi
              Heinie Manush
              Rafael Palmeiro
              Jim Rice
              Spot Poles
              Sam Rice
              Eppa Rixey
              Red Ruffing
              Jimmy Ryan
              Lee Smith
              Bruce Sutter
              Bobby Wallace
              Mickey Welch
              Hack Wilson
              Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
              Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
              Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
              Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
              Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

              Comment


              • #8
                Ken Boyer
                Pete Browning
                Kiki Cuyler
                Larry Doyle
                Lefty Gomez
                Bob Johnson
                Chuck Klein
                Ernie Lombardi
                Heinie Manush
                Edgar Martinez
                Bobby Matthews
                Jim McCormick
                Cal McVey
                Tony Mullane
                Tony Oliva
                Rafael Palmeiro
                Jim Rice
                Al Rosen
                Red Ruffing
                Lee Smith
                Vern Stephens
                Bobby Veach
                Larry Walker
                Mickey Welch
                Hack Wilson

                Comment


                • #9
                  Jake Beckley
                  Chief Bender
                  Akira Bessho
                  Ken Boyer
                  Pete Browning
                  Kiki Cuyler
                  Leon Day
                  Larry Doyle
                  Lefty Gomez
                  Chuck Klein
                  Ernie Lombardi
                  Heinie Manush
                  Hiromitsu Ochiai
                  Al Oliver
                  Alejandro Oms
                  Spotswood Poles
                  Dan Quisenberry
                  Jim Rice
                  Sam Rice
                  Red Ruffing
                  Lee Smith
                  Bruce Sutter
                  Lloyd Waner
                  Mickey Welch
                  Hack Wilson

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    --My ballot dwindles by 2. I was voting for both Moore and Sewell and nobody has put forth a compelling case for bringing any of my maybes off the bench. If you strongly support anybody not on my ballot please make your pitch in the discussion thread. There are quite a few players I'm not prepared to add at this time, but whom are close enough that a good presentation could sell them to me.

                    Boyer, K.
                    Bresnahan, Roger
                    Childs, C.
                    Doyle, L.
                    Hernandez, K.
                    McVey, C.
                    Mullane, T.
                    Nettles, G
                    Rice, J.
                    Rixey, E.
                    Ruffing, R.
                    Sheckard, J.
                    Start, J.
                    Wallace, B.
                    Wynn, J.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Here's the corrected ballot:

                      Jake Beckley
                      Ken Boyer
                      Pete Browning
                      Kiki Cuyler
                      Larry Doyle
                      Bob Elliott
                      Dwight Evans
                      Burleigh Grimes
                      Lefty Gomez
                      Keith Hernandez
                      Addie Joss
                      Chuck Klein
                      Edgar Martinez
                      Cal McVey
                      Rafael Palmeiro
                      Dickey Pearce
                      Sam Rice
                      Red Ruffing
                      Joe Start
                      Vern Stephens
                      Bruce Sutter
                      Ezra Sutton
                      Larry Walker
                      Bobby Wallace
                      Hack Wilson
                      Last edited by TheSlaff; 01-28-2008, 06:07 PM.
                      Nos Amours! ... 1969-2004

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                      • #12
                        We elected two last time, giving us a total of 227 players elected to the BBFHOF, through 56 elections. Average elections listed on my ballot jumps to 13.3, the highest in seven elections. Ken Boyer has now been on my ballot 32 times, breaking Whitaker's record; over two years I've been voting for him. Six others have now been on my ballot for more than a year and a half. The top five that I think the electorate is under-rating: 1) Darrell Evans, 2) Jack Glasscock, 3) Ken Boyer, 4) Bobby Wallace, 5) Jim Wynn.

                        15 Beckley-1B
                        32 Boyer K-3B*
                        3 Bresnahan-C
                        2 Browning P-OF*
                        31 Evans Da.-3B*
                        19 Evans Dw.-RF*
                        24 Glasscock-SS*
                        10 Grimes-P
                        19 Hernandez-1B*
                        2 Keller-LF*
                        3 Klein-RF
                        6 Martinez E-DH*
                        1 McVey C-C*
                        3 Nettles-3B*
                        20 Palmeiro-1B*
                        8 Pearce D-SS*
                        7 Richardson H-2B*
                        27 Rixey-P
                        28 Ruffing-P
                        6 Ryan J-CF*
                        5 Sheckard-LF*
                        7 Start-1B*
                        1 Sutton E-3B*
                        30 Wallace-SS
                        24 Wynn J-CF*
                        13.3 ave # of elections on ballot

                        * = not a member of the Coop HOF
                        bold = member of the Hall of Merit
                        Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.

                        Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.

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                        • #13
                          Akira Bessho
                          Ken Boyer
                          Cupid Childs
                          Leon Day
                          Larry Doyle
                          Darrell Evans
                          Jack Glasscock
                          Burleigh Grimes
                          Edgar Martinez
                          Tony Mullane
                          Hiromitsu Ochiai
                          Alejandro Oms
                          Dan Quisenberry
                          Sam Rice
                          Hardy Richardson
                          Eppa Rixey
                          Red Ruffing
                          Jimmy Sheckard
                          Joe Start
                          Vern Stephens
                          Bruce Sutter
                          Ezra Sutton
                          Bobby Wallace
                          Vic Willis
                          Jimmy Wynn
                          "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                          "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                          "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                          "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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                          • #14
                            Bando, Sal
                            Bessho, Akira
                            Boyer, Ken
                            Bresnahan, Roger
                            Childs, Cupid
                            Day, Leon
                            Doyle, Larry
                            Evans, Darrell
                            Evans, Dwight
                            Glasscock, Jack
                            Grimes, Burleigh
                            Manush, Heinie
                            Martinez, Edgar
                            McVey, Cal
                            Ochiai, Hiromitsu
                            Oms, Alejandro
                            Pearce, Dickey
                            Quisenberry, Dan
                            Richardson, Hardy
                            Rixey, Eppa
                            Ruffing, Red
                            Start, Joe
                            Sutter, Bruce
                            Wallace, Bobby
                            Wynn, Jimmy
                            "Someone asked me if I took steroids. I said, 'No. I had a contract with Wheaties.'"
                            --Bob Feller

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                            • #15
                              I'll star players I'm considering swapping:

                              Jake Beckley*
                              Chief Bender*
                              Bobby Bonds
                              Ken Boyer
                              Roger Bresnahan
                              Tommy Bridges*
                              Larry Doyle
                              Lefty Gomez
                              Addie Joss*
                              Chuck Klein*
                              Tommy Leach
                              Rabbit Maranville*
                              Edgar Martinez
                              Dan Quisenberry
                              Eppa Rixey
                              Jimmy Ryan
                              Lee Smith*
                              Bruce Sutter
                              Larry Walker
                              Bobby Wallace
                              Mickey Welch
                              Vic Willis
                              Jimmy Wynn
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                              Last edited by J W; 01-31-2008, 07:13 AM.
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