--In this thread we will be conducting a draft of the best players eligible for, but not inducted in, the Hall of Fame. We will be drafting 10 teams, each with 25 man rosters, for a total of 250 players. I doubt many people have 250 eligible players who they would actually want to see in Cooperstown so our 250 should include all the viable candidates. Plus some personal favorites who may fall a little below viability.

--Our participants are; Classic, J W, Jim Albright, Freakshow, Double X, Paul Wendt, Chickazoola, jjpm74, BaseballPap and myself. I think we've got a pretty good group with diverse areas of interest who should manage to get the best guys right and avoid any significant oversights.

--The draft will commence at midnight EST on the 21st. We will be using a 12 hour clock. The first 20 picks should consist of your starting lineup a backup catcher, 2 backup infielders, two backup outfielders and one utility/PHer (14 position players) plus 5 starting pitchers and your closer/relief ace (you may substitute a 2nd reliever for your 5th starter if you think the next best releiver is better than any SP candidates when your last pitcher pick comes around. After we have picked these 200 players (those qualifying for the Suburbs of Cooperstown for future projects) we'll pick 5 more player to round out the rosters for sim purposes. These should be mostly - or even all - pitchers.

-- Once we've picked our rosters I'll run at least one DiamondMind sim with the teams, but probably more to get a true measure of who came up with the best team. I may run 10 or 20 to come up with career totals. How much simming I do will depend on the level of interest amoung our participants.

--For players who played mostly after 1894 I'll be using the programming from DMB's Alll Time Greatest players program. For earlier players I'll program them myself using 162 game averages. We will be using only MLB stats for this exercise. I do want to emphasize that the sim is not the ojective of the draft though. It is to identify the best players, within the constraints of building a workable roster. If you think guys who left some of their best years in the 1860s or Negro Leagues or minors or whatever then feel free to draft them. We'll work something out for them - probably a most comparable MLB player's numbers.

--I envision a number of other follow on projects using this pool of players. We should have the best 10 candidates at each position in our starting lineups so it wil be easy to put up some threads about the best at each. We will also have 2 teams of the least deserving Hallof Famers to compete with our best out of Cooperstown teams. I think that is an excellent idea. I'd bet against the worst HoF teams winning many pennants.

Round One

1) Jim Albright

2) JJPM74

3) J W

4) Double X

5) Chickalooza

6) Leecemark

7) Paul Wendt

8) Freakshow

9) Classic

10) Baseball PAP

Round Two

11) Baseball PAP

12) Classic

13) Freakshow

14) Paul wendt

15) Leecemark

16) Chickalooza

17) Double X

18) J W

19) JJPM74

20) Jim Albright

Round 3

21) Jim Albright

22) JJPM74

23) J W

24) Double X

25) Chickalooza

26) Leecemark

27) Paul Wendt

28) Freakshow

29) Classic

30) Baseball PAP

--Our participants are; Classic, J W, Jim Albright, Freakshow, Double X, Paul Wendt, Chickazoola, jjpm74, BaseballPap and myself. I think we've got a pretty good group with diverse areas of interest who should manage to get the best guys right and avoid any significant oversights.

--The draft will commence at midnight EST on the 21st. We will be using a 12 hour clock. The first 20 picks should consist of your starting lineup a backup catcher, 2 backup infielders, two backup outfielders and one utility/PHer (14 position players) plus 5 starting pitchers and your closer/relief ace (you may substitute a 2nd reliever for your 5th starter if you think the next best releiver is better than any SP candidates when your last pitcher pick comes around. After we have picked these 200 players (those qualifying for the Suburbs of Cooperstown for future projects) we'll pick 5 more player to round out the rosters for sim purposes. These should be mostly - or even all - pitchers.

-- Once we've picked our rosters I'll run at least one DiamondMind sim with the teams, but probably more to get a true measure of who came up with the best team. I may run 10 or 20 to come up with career totals. How much simming I do will depend on the level of interest amoung our participants.

--For players who played mostly after 1894 I'll be using the programming from DMB's Alll Time Greatest players program. For earlier players I'll program them myself using 162 game averages. We will be using only MLB stats for this exercise. I do want to emphasize that the sim is not the ojective of the draft though. It is to identify the best players, within the constraints of building a workable roster. If you think guys who left some of their best years in the 1860s or Negro Leagues or minors or whatever then feel free to draft them. We'll work something out for them - probably a most comparable MLB player's numbers.

--I envision a number of other follow on projects using this pool of players. We should have the best 10 candidates at each position in our starting lineups so it wil be easy to put up some threads about the best at each. We will also have 2 teams of the least deserving Hallof Famers to compete with our best out of Cooperstown teams. I think that is an excellent idea. I'd bet against the worst HoF teams winning many pennants.

Round One

1) Jim Albright

2) JJPM74

3) J W

4) Double X

5) Chickalooza

6) Leecemark

7) Paul Wendt

8) Freakshow

9) Classic

10) Baseball PAP

Round Two

11) Baseball PAP

12) Classic

13) Freakshow

14) Paul wendt

15) Leecemark

16) Chickalooza

17) Double X

18) J W

19) JJPM74

20) Jim Albright

Round 3

21) Jim Albright

22) JJPM74

23) J W

24) Double X

25) Chickalooza

26) Leecemark

27) Paul Wendt

28) Freakshow

29) Classic

30) Baseball PAP

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