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--This thread will be reserved exclusively for participants in this project to make their picks of the best players outside Cooperstown. Any posts except for actual picks will be deleted. There is a separate thread up for discussion of this project. Please direct all comments, suggestions, etc to that thread.
--We will be picking 10 teams of 20 players each. The rosters will consist of the starting lineup, a backup C, backup IF and backup OF, 5 starting pitchers, one relief ace and either three additional bench players or two bench players and a second reliever. Once we have elected the 200 members of the Suburbs of Cooperstown we will have a supplemental draft to get the rosters to 25 and run a sim (or sims) with the teams. The simulation is strictly a secondary project though and this draft is being conducted strictly on the basis of "most deserving outside Cooperstown" and not to build the best sim team.
--The eligible pool will be all players on the BWAA 2009 ballot with the exception of Rickey Henderson (we are assuming he will be elected), all players who might be considered by the VC and Negro Leaguers who might be considered if that pool were to be revisited. The intent of this project is to be as inclusive as possible. The only players speciificly excluded are; active players, players who retired after 2003, ineligible players and players who careers were primarily outside the United States.
--The draft will officially commence at midnight EST, February 20, Picks may be made prior to that, but the clock will not start running until then. The clock will be 18 hours from the previous pick, although participants are encouraged to pick as promptly as possible when their turn comes around. For participants at the either end of the draft the 18 hours will be their clock for making both their picks.
Round One
1) Jim Albright: Bert Blyleven
2) JJPM74: Bill Dahlen
3) J W: Dick Allen
4) Double X: Ron Santo
5) Chickalooza: Tim Raines
6) Leecemark : Alan Trammell
7) Paul Wendt: Deacon White
8) Freakshow: Mark McGwire
9) Classic Bobby Grich
10) Baseball PAP: Albert Belle
Round Two
11) Baseball PAP: John Beckwith
12) Classic: Dick Lundy
13) Freakshow: Ted Simmons
14) Paul Wendt: Paul Hines
15) Leecemark Bill Freehan
16) Chickalooza: Joe Torre
17) Double X: Will Clark
18) J W: Carl Mays
19) JJPM74: George Van Haltren
20) Jim Albright: Dobie Moore
Round Three
21) Jim Albright: Quincy Trouppe
22) JJPM74: Charlie Bennett
23) J W: Bob Caruthers
24) Double X: Jimmy Wynn
25) Chickalooza: John Donaldson
26) Leecemark: Minnie Minoso
27) Paul Wendt Jack Glasscock
28) Freakshow: Sherry Magee
29) Classic: Ken Boyer
30) Baseball PAP: Wes Ferrell
Round Four
31) Baseball PAP: Doc White
32) Classic: Lance Parrish
33) Freakshow: Dickey Pearce
34) Paul Wendt: Hardy Richardson
35) Leecemark: Lou Whitaker
36) Chickalooza: Dwight Evans
37) Double X: Joe Gordon
38) J W: Stan Hack
39) JJPM74: Andre Dawson
40) Jim Albright: Larry Doyle
Round Five
41) Jim Albright: Dan Quisenberry
42) JJPM74: Harry Stovey
43) J W: Wally Berger
44) Double X: Bobby Bonds
45) Chickalooza: Vern Stephens
46) Leecemark: Tony Mullane
47) Paul Wendt: Cal McVey
48) Freakshow: George Gore
49) Classic: Billy Pierce
50) Baseball PAP: Cesar Cedeno
Round Six
51) Baseball PAP: Ross Barnes
52) Classic: Luis Tiant
53) Freakshow: Darrell Evans
54) Paul Wendt: Charley Jones
55) Leecemark: Tommy Bridges
56) Chickalooza: Norm Cash
57) Double X: Dave Stieb
58) J W: Cupid Childs
59) JJPM74: Joe Start
60) Jim Albright: Charlie Keller
Round Seven
61) Jim Albright: Frank Howard
62) JJPM74: Wilbur Cooper
63) J W: Joe Wood
64) Double X: Bob Johnson
65) Chickalooza: Dale Murphy
66) Leecemark: Al Rosen
67) Paul Wendt: Lip Pike
68) Freakshow: Reggie Smith
69) Classic: Dave Orr
70) Baseball PAP: Harry Brecheen
Round Eight
71) Baseball PAP: Ken Singleton
72) Classic: Ron Guidry
73) Freakshow: Willie Randolph
74) Paul Wendt: Heinie Groh
75) leecemark: Keith Hernandez
76) Chickalooza: Bob Elliott
77) Double X: Thurman Munson
78) J W: Babe Adams
79) JJPM74: Jack Morris
80) Jim Albright; Dave Parker
Round Nine
81) Jim Albright Alejandro Oms
82) JJPM74: Cannonball Dick Redding
83) J W: Grant Johnson
84) Double X: Tommy John
85) Chickazoola: Del Pratt
86) Leecemark: Tony Oliva
87) Paul Wendt Brett Saberhagen
88) Freakshow: Urban Shocker
89) Classic: David Cone
90) Baseball PAP: Wally Schang
Round Ten
91) Baseball Pap: Herman Long
92) Classic: Gavvy Cravath
93) Freakshow: Lon Warneke
94) Paul Wendt: Dolf Luque
95) Leecemark: Bucky Walters
96) Chickazoola: Sam Leever
97) Double X: Chuck Finley
98) J W: Bobby Murcer
99) JJPM74: Vida Blue
100) Jim Albright : Hippo Vaughn
Round 11
101) Jim Albright: Dizzy Trout
102) JJPM74: Lee Smith
103) J W: Jimmy Ryan
104) Double X: Orel Hershiser
105) Chickazoola: Eddie Rommel
106) Leecemark: Fred Lynn
107) Paul Wendt : Sal Maglie
108) Freakshow: Jimmy Key
109) Classic: Tom Henke
110) Baseball PAP: John Hiller
Round 12
111) PAP: Jack Fournier
112) Classic: Ken Williams
113) FS: John Wetteland
114) PW: Sparky Lyle
115) LM: Firpo Marberry
116) Chick: Doug Jones
117) XX: Tony Fernandez
118) JW: Pete Browning
119) JJ: Buddy Myer
120) Jim Bus Clarkson
Round 13
121) Jim Albright: Johnny Pesky
122) JJPM74: Harvey Kuenn
123) J W: Gene Tenace
124) Double X: Dick McAuliffe
125) Chickazoola: Deacon Phillipe
126) Leecemark: Tommy Leach
127) Paul Wendt: Jack Rowe
128) Freakshow: Dutch Leonard
129) Classic: Mike Donlin
130) Baseball PAP: Dennis Martinez
Round 14
131) Baseball Pap: Tony Phillips
132) Classic: Cy Williams
133) Freakshow: Ezra Sutton
134) Paul Wendt: Don Newcombe
135) Leecemark: Mickey Lolich
136) Chickazoola: Silver King
137) Double X: Kent Tekulve
138) J W: Tug McGraw
139) JJPM74: Oliver Marcelle
140) Jim Albright : Nip Winters
Round 15
141) Jim Albright: Jim Kaat
142) JJPM74: Smokey Burgess
143) J W: Tom Haller
144) Double X: Jim McCormick
145) Chickazoola: Ted Radcliffe
146) Leecemark: Virgil Trucks
147) Paul Wendt: Ed Williamson
148) Freakshow: Elston Howard
149) Classic: Don Mattingly
150) Baseball PAP: Wilbur Wood
Round 16
151) Baseball Pap: Wild Bill Wright
152) Classic: Pedro Guerrero
153) Freakshow: Jesse Tannehill
154) Paul Wendt: Mike Tiernan
155) Leecemark: Graig Nettles
156) Chickazoola: Jimmy Sheckard
157) Double X: Boog Powell
158) J W: Darryl Strawberry
159) JJPM74: Dave Foutz
160) Jim Albright : George J Burns
Round 17
161) Jim Albright: Jack Clark
162) JJPM74: Jim Rice
163) J W: Mike Cuellar
164) Double X: Darrell Porter
165) Chickazoola: Davey Conception
166) Leecemark: Rocky Colavito
167) Paul Wendt: Luke Easter
168) Freakshow: Rusty Staub
169) Classic: Jose Rijo
170) Baseball PAP: Jim Fregosi
Round 18
171) Baseball Pap: Darren Daulton
172) Classic: Lefty O'Doul
173) Freakshow: Jesse Orosco
174) Paul Wendt: Bill Monroe
175) Leecemark: Gil McDougald
176) Chickazoola: Fred Dunlap
177) Double X: Bobby Veach
178) J W: Maury Wills
179) JJPM74: Kid Gleason
180) Jim Albright : Chino Smith
Round 19
181) Jim Albright: Sherm Lollar
182) JJPM74: Dave Righetti
183) J W: Gil Hodges
184) Double X: Eric Davis
185) Chickazoola: Steve Garvey
186) Leecemark: Chief Myers
187) Paul Wendt: Jack Quinn
188) Freakshow: Dave Lopes
189) Classic: Rico Carty
190) Baseball PAP: Lindy McDaniel
Round 20
191) Baseball Pap: Don McMahon
192) Classic: Dave Smith
193) Freakshow: Bert Campaneris
194) Paul Wendt: Fielder Jones
195) Leecemark: Al Oliver
196) Chickazoola: Jeff Reardon
197) Double X: Roy White
198) J W: Ron Cey
199) JJPM74: Johnny Kling
200) Jim Albright : Sal Bando
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The Managers
1) Jim Albright: C I Taylor
2) JJPM74: Billy Martin
3) J W: Davey Johnson
4) Double X: Whitey Herzog
5) Chickazoola: Vic Harris
6) Leecemark: Charley Grimm
7) Paul Wendt: Frank Bancroft
8) Freakshow: Gene Mauch
9) Classic: Danny Murtaugh
10) Baseball PAP: Buck O'Neil
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Supplemental Rounds
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**Note: These players are not intended to be part of the Cooperstown discussion. The are merely intended to complete our 25 man rosters. The selection process here is geared toward putting the finishing touches on a competitive team and NOT on identifying players with a good (or even reasonable) case for the Hall of Fame
Round 21
201) Baseball Pap: Buck O'Neil2
202) Classic: Mickey Tettleton
203) Freakshow: Elmer Smith
204) Paul Wendt: Noodles Hahn
205) Leecemark: Ron Perranoski
206) Chickazoola: Rich McKinney
207) Double X: Ed Ruelbach
208) J W: Dick Hall
209) JJPM74: Rick Agulera
210) Jim Albright : Ellis Kinder
Round 22
211) Jim Albright: Bobby Shantz
212) JJPM74: Mike Marshall
213) J W: Slim Sallee
214) Double X: Jeff Montgomery
215) Chickazoola: Larry French
216) Leecemark: Mark Eichhorn
217) Paul Wendt: Andy Messersmith
218) Freakshow: Robb Nen
219) Classic: Mark Belanger
220) Baseball PAP: Pete Runnels
Round 23
221) Baseball Pap: Ted Kluzewski
222) Classic: Bill Joyce
223) Freakshow: Jack Stivetts
224) Paul Wendt: Reb Russell
225) Leecemark: Randy Myers
226) Chickazoola:Dick Radatz
227) Double X: Gary Lavelle
228) J W: John Candelaria
229) JJPM74: Don Plesac
230) Jim Albright : Todd Worrell
Round 24
231) Jim Albright: Al Holland
232) JJPM74: Howard Johnson
233) J W: Dave McNally
234) Double X: Matt Williams
235) Chickazoola: Terry Moore
236) Leecemark: Mike Henneman
237) Paul Wendt: Roy Thomas
238) Freakshow: John Tudor
239) Classic: Sudden Sam McDowell
240) Baseball PAP: Terry Forster
Round 25
241) Baseball Pap: Gene Garber
242) Classic: Vada Pinson
243) Freakshow: Tim Burke
244) Paul Wendt: Steve Howe
245) Leecemark: Schoolboy Rowe
246) Chickazoola: Dwight Gooden
247) Double X: Spud Chandler
248) J W: Tommy Bond
249) JJPM74: Harold Baines
250) Jim Albright: Oscar "Heavy" Johnson
--We will be picking 10 teams of 20 players each. The rosters will consist of the starting lineup, a backup C, backup IF and backup OF, 5 starting pitchers, one relief ace and either three additional bench players or two bench players and a second reliever. Once we have elected the 200 members of the Suburbs of Cooperstown we will have a supplemental draft to get the rosters to 25 and run a sim (or sims) with the teams. The simulation is strictly a secondary project though and this draft is being conducted strictly on the basis of "most deserving outside Cooperstown" and not to build the best sim team.
--The eligible pool will be all players on the BWAA 2009 ballot with the exception of Rickey Henderson (we are assuming he will be elected), all players who might be considered by the VC and Negro Leaguers who might be considered if that pool were to be revisited. The intent of this project is to be as inclusive as possible. The only players speciificly excluded are; active players, players who retired after 2003, ineligible players and players who careers were primarily outside the United States.
--The draft will officially commence at midnight EST, February 20, Picks may be made prior to that, but the clock will not start running until then. The clock will be 18 hours from the previous pick, although participants are encouraged to pick as promptly as possible when their turn comes around. For participants at the either end of the draft the 18 hours will be their clock for making both their picks.
Round One
1) Jim Albright: Bert Blyleven
2) JJPM74: Bill Dahlen
3) J W: Dick Allen
4) Double X: Ron Santo
5) Chickalooza: Tim Raines
6) Leecemark : Alan Trammell
7) Paul Wendt: Deacon White
8) Freakshow: Mark McGwire
9) Classic Bobby Grich
10) Baseball PAP: Albert Belle
Round Two
11) Baseball PAP: John Beckwith
12) Classic: Dick Lundy
13) Freakshow: Ted Simmons
14) Paul Wendt: Paul Hines
15) Leecemark Bill Freehan
16) Chickalooza: Joe Torre
17) Double X: Will Clark
18) J W: Carl Mays
19) JJPM74: George Van Haltren
20) Jim Albright: Dobie Moore
Round Three
21) Jim Albright: Quincy Trouppe
22) JJPM74: Charlie Bennett
23) J W: Bob Caruthers
24) Double X: Jimmy Wynn
25) Chickalooza: John Donaldson
26) Leecemark: Minnie Minoso
27) Paul Wendt Jack Glasscock
28) Freakshow: Sherry Magee
29) Classic: Ken Boyer
30) Baseball PAP: Wes Ferrell
Round Four
31) Baseball PAP: Doc White
32) Classic: Lance Parrish
33) Freakshow: Dickey Pearce
34) Paul Wendt: Hardy Richardson
35) Leecemark: Lou Whitaker
36) Chickalooza: Dwight Evans
37) Double X: Joe Gordon
38) J W: Stan Hack
39) JJPM74: Andre Dawson
40) Jim Albright: Larry Doyle
Round Five
41) Jim Albright: Dan Quisenberry
42) JJPM74: Harry Stovey
43) J W: Wally Berger
44) Double X: Bobby Bonds
45) Chickalooza: Vern Stephens
46) Leecemark: Tony Mullane
47) Paul Wendt: Cal McVey
48) Freakshow: George Gore
49) Classic: Billy Pierce
50) Baseball PAP: Cesar Cedeno
Round Six
51) Baseball PAP: Ross Barnes
52) Classic: Luis Tiant
53) Freakshow: Darrell Evans
54) Paul Wendt: Charley Jones
55) Leecemark: Tommy Bridges
56) Chickalooza: Norm Cash
57) Double X: Dave Stieb
58) J W: Cupid Childs
59) JJPM74: Joe Start
60) Jim Albright: Charlie Keller
Round Seven
61) Jim Albright: Frank Howard
62) JJPM74: Wilbur Cooper
63) J W: Joe Wood
64) Double X: Bob Johnson
65) Chickalooza: Dale Murphy
66) Leecemark: Al Rosen
67) Paul Wendt: Lip Pike
68) Freakshow: Reggie Smith
69) Classic: Dave Orr
70) Baseball PAP: Harry Brecheen
Round Eight
71) Baseball PAP: Ken Singleton
72) Classic: Ron Guidry
73) Freakshow: Willie Randolph
74) Paul Wendt: Heinie Groh
75) leecemark: Keith Hernandez
76) Chickalooza: Bob Elliott
77) Double X: Thurman Munson
78) J W: Babe Adams
79) JJPM74: Jack Morris
80) Jim Albright; Dave Parker
Round Nine
81) Jim Albright Alejandro Oms
82) JJPM74: Cannonball Dick Redding
83) J W: Grant Johnson
84) Double X: Tommy John
85) Chickazoola: Del Pratt
86) Leecemark: Tony Oliva
87) Paul Wendt Brett Saberhagen
88) Freakshow: Urban Shocker
89) Classic: David Cone
90) Baseball PAP: Wally Schang
Round Ten
91) Baseball Pap: Herman Long
92) Classic: Gavvy Cravath
93) Freakshow: Lon Warneke
94) Paul Wendt: Dolf Luque
95) Leecemark: Bucky Walters
96) Chickazoola: Sam Leever
97) Double X: Chuck Finley
98) J W: Bobby Murcer
99) JJPM74: Vida Blue
100) Jim Albright : Hippo Vaughn
Round 11
101) Jim Albright: Dizzy Trout
102) JJPM74: Lee Smith
103) J W: Jimmy Ryan
104) Double X: Orel Hershiser
105) Chickazoola: Eddie Rommel
106) Leecemark: Fred Lynn
107) Paul Wendt : Sal Maglie
108) Freakshow: Jimmy Key
109) Classic: Tom Henke
110) Baseball PAP: John Hiller
Round 12
111) PAP: Jack Fournier
112) Classic: Ken Williams
113) FS: John Wetteland
114) PW: Sparky Lyle
115) LM: Firpo Marberry
116) Chick: Doug Jones
117) XX: Tony Fernandez
118) JW: Pete Browning
119) JJ: Buddy Myer
120) Jim Bus Clarkson
Round 13
121) Jim Albright: Johnny Pesky
122) JJPM74: Harvey Kuenn
123) J W: Gene Tenace
124) Double X: Dick McAuliffe
125) Chickazoola: Deacon Phillipe
126) Leecemark: Tommy Leach
127) Paul Wendt: Jack Rowe
128) Freakshow: Dutch Leonard
129) Classic: Mike Donlin
130) Baseball PAP: Dennis Martinez
Round 14
131) Baseball Pap: Tony Phillips
132) Classic: Cy Williams
133) Freakshow: Ezra Sutton
134) Paul Wendt: Don Newcombe
135) Leecemark: Mickey Lolich
136) Chickazoola: Silver King
137) Double X: Kent Tekulve
138) J W: Tug McGraw
139) JJPM74: Oliver Marcelle
140) Jim Albright : Nip Winters
Round 15
141) Jim Albright: Jim Kaat
142) JJPM74: Smokey Burgess
143) J W: Tom Haller
144) Double X: Jim McCormick
145) Chickazoola: Ted Radcliffe
146) Leecemark: Virgil Trucks
147) Paul Wendt: Ed Williamson
148) Freakshow: Elston Howard
149) Classic: Don Mattingly
150) Baseball PAP: Wilbur Wood
Round 16
151) Baseball Pap: Wild Bill Wright
152) Classic: Pedro Guerrero
153) Freakshow: Jesse Tannehill
154) Paul Wendt: Mike Tiernan
155) Leecemark: Graig Nettles
156) Chickazoola: Jimmy Sheckard
157) Double X: Boog Powell
158) J W: Darryl Strawberry
159) JJPM74: Dave Foutz
160) Jim Albright : George J Burns
Round 17
161) Jim Albright: Jack Clark
162) JJPM74: Jim Rice
163) J W: Mike Cuellar
164) Double X: Darrell Porter
165) Chickazoola: Davey Conception
166) Leecemark: Rocky Colavito
167) Paul Wendt: Luke Easter
168) Freakshow: Rusty Staub
169) Classic: Jose Rijo
170) Baseball PAP: Jim Fregosi
Round 18
171) Baseball Pap: Darren Daulton
172) Classic: Lefty O'Doul
173) Freakshow: Jesse Orosco
174) Paul Wendt: Bill Monroe
175) Leecemark: Gil McDougald
176) Chickazoola: Fred Dunlap
177) Double X: Bobby Veach
178) J W: Maury Wills
179) JJPM74: Kid Gleason
180) Jim Albright : Chino Smith
Round 19
181) Jim Albright: Sherm Lollar
182) JJPM74: Dave Righetti
183) J W: Gil Hodges
184) Double X: Eric Davis
185) Chickazoola: Steve Garvey
186) Leecemark: Chief Myers
187) Paul Wendt: Jack Quinn
188) Freakshow: Dave Lopes
189) Classic: Rico Carty
190) Baseball PAP: Lindy McDaniel
Round 20
191) Baseball Pap: Don McMahon
192) Classic: Dave Smith
193) Freakshow: Bert Campaneris
194) Paul Wendt: Fielder Jones
195) Leecemark: Al Oliver
196) Chickazoola: Jeff Reardon
197) Double X: Roy White
198) J W: Ron Cey
199) JJPM74: Johnny Kling
200) Jim Albright : Sal Bando
================================================== ==========================
The Managers
1) Jim Albright: C I Taylor
2) JJPM74: Billy Martin
3) J W: Davey Johnson
4) Double X: Whitey Herzog
5) Chickazoola: Vic Harris
6) Leecemark: Charley Grimm
7) Paul Wendt: Frank Bancroft
8) Freakshow: Gene Mauch
9) Classic: Danny Murtaugh
10) Baseball PAP: Buck O'Neil
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Supplemental Rounds
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
**Note: These players are not intended to be part of the Cooperstown discussion. The are merely intended to complete our 25 man rosters. The selection process here is geared toward putting the finishing touches on a competitive team and NOT on identifying players with a good (or even reasonable) case for the Hall of Fame
Round 21
201) Baseball Pap: Buck O'Neil2
202) Classic: Mickey Tettleton
203) Freakshow: Elmer Smith
204) Paul Wendt: Noodles Hahn
205) Leecemark: Ron Perranoski
206) Chickazoola: Rich McKinney
207) Double X: Ed Ruelbach
208) J W: Dick Hall
209) JJPM74: Rick Agulera
210) Jim Albright : Ellis Kinder
Round 22
211) Jim Albright: Bobby Shantz
212) JJPM74: Mike Marshall
213) J W: Slim Sallee
214) Double X: Jeff Montgomery
215) Chickazoola: Larry French
216) Leecemark: Mark Eichhorn
217) Paul Wendt: Andy Messersmith
218) Freakshow: Robb Nen
219) Classic: Mark Belanger
220) Baseball PAP: Pete Runnels
Round 23
221) Baseball Pap: Ted Kluzewski
222) Classic: Bill Joyce
223) Freakshow: Jack Stivetts
224) Paul Wendt: Reb Russell
225) Leecemark: Randy Myers
226) Chickazoola:Dick Radatz
227) Double X: Gary Lavelle
228) J W: John Candelaria
229) JJPM74: Don Plesac
230) Jim Albright : Todd Worrell
Round 24
231) Jim Albright: Al Holland
232) JJPM74: Howard Johnson
233) J W: Dave McNally
234) Double X: Matt Williams
235) Chickazoola: Terry Moore
236) Leecemark: Mike Henneman
237) Paul Wendt: Roy Thomas
238) Freakshow: John Tudor
239) Classic: Sudden Sam McDowell
240) Baseball PAP: Terry Forster
Round 25
241) Baseball Pap: Gene Garber
242) Classic: Vada Pinson
243) Freakshow: Tim Burke
244) Paul Wendt: Steve Howe
245) Leecemark: Schoolboy Rowe
246) Chickazoola: Dwight Gooden
247) Double X: Spud Chandler
248) J W: Tommy Bond
249) JJPM74: Harold Baines
250) Jim Albright: Oscar "Heavy" Johnson
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