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    Let the voting begin! For anyone who has not participated before, please read the rules posted here

    The Rules

    Those players receiving only one ballot in an election may go on to a list from which voters may only vote for a limited number of such candidates. For more details on this rule, please follow the above link to the Rules. For this election, you may not select more than two (2) from this list:

    Code:
    Burns, George
    Canseco, Jose**
    Lazzeri, Tony
    Long, Herman*
    Mathews, Bobby**
    Munson, Thurman
    O'Neill, Tip*
    Pinson, Vada**
    Smith, Reggie*
    Veach, Bobby**
    For more details on this rule, please consult the link to the Rules above, and to this post: Limited Selection List

    Also, please note that now ballots as short as zero (0) names are now permitted. However, if a voter intends to cast a ballot naming no one, this must be clearly communicated or the ballot will not count.

    Voting in this cycle will end at 11:59:59 pm Eastern Time, March 14, 2008.

    Other information of note is who is in the BBF HOF.

    BBF HOF membership by category

    BBF HOF membership listed alphabetically

    Last month's results are posted. You are requested to pay particular attention to those individuals receiving 50% or more of the vote last election, as they are the most likely candidates to be elected this month. In fact, I have specific posts on players receiving 50% or more of last month's vote:

    Results of last election

    Those with 50% or more last election

    I have also posted this with respect to the status of the project:

    Project Status

    I have posted all the players who have exceeded 50% of the vote at least once without yet being elected

    50%+ voting history

    Also, please note that you can access the last voting thread here.
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

  • #2
    My 2/23 - 3/14/08 ballot

    key:
    red=Japanese League
    blue=Negro Leagues
    green=19th century

    I'm leaving a spot open right now.

    Players

    1. Sal Bando, 3b
    2. Akira Bessho, p (Japan)
    3. Cupid Childs, 2b
    4. Wilbur Cooper, p
    5. Leon Day, p
    6. Darrell Evans, 3b
    7. Jack Glasscock, ss
    8. Burleigh Grimes, p
    9. Tommy Leach, 3b/cf
    10. Dick Lundy, ss
    11. Tony Mullane, p
    12. Hiromitsu Ochiai 1B/3B (Japan)
    13. Alejandro Oms, of
    14. Dan Quisenberry, p
    15. Sam Rice, of
    16. Hardy Richardson, 2b
    17. Joe Start, 1b
    18. Vern Stephens, ss
    19. Ezra Sutton, 3b
    20. Quincy Trouppe, c
    21. Bucky Walters, p
    22. Vic Willis, p
    23. Hack Wilson, of

    late addition--24. Masaaki Koyama, p (Japan)

    Anyone who wants more information on these or other players, please see my latest player voting guide
    Last edited by jalbright; 03-14-2008, 07:18 PM.
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

    Comment


    • #3
      Jake Beckley
      Akira Bessho
      Pete Browning
      Wilbur Cooper
      Leon Day
      Darrell Evans
      Jack Glasscock
      Lefty Gomez
      Addie Joss
      Chuck Klein
      Ernie Lombardi
      Dick Lundy
      Heinie Manush
      Tony Mullane
      Hiromitsu Ochiai
      Al Oliver
      Alejandro Oms
      Spotswood Poles
      Dan Quisenberry
      Jim Rice
      Sam Rice
      Lee Smith
      Joe Start
      Mickey Welch
      Hack Wilson

      I decided to make some changes to attempt to get players voted in, then maybe some of my previous choices will get a chance. I still believe my original choices are better, but my replacements are also HOF worthy imo.
      Last edited by Dogdaze; 02-28-2008, 05:20 PM.

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      • #4
        OK, let me be one whose votes are counted in the intermediate reports and tactical deliberations.
        (Insert Cooper in place of Sutter. No other change.)

        Wally Berger
        Akira Bessho
        Roger Bresnahan
        Cupid Childs
        Wilbur Cooper
        Gavvy Cravath
        Darrell Evans
        Jack Glasscock
        Burleigh Grimes
        Charley Jones
        Charlie Keller
        Tommy Leach
        Herman Long
        Cal McVey
        Tony Mullane
        Graig Nettles
        Alejandro Oms
        Dickey Pearce
        Lip Pike
        Dan Quisenberry
        Hardy Richardson
        Jimmy Sheckard
        Joe Start
        Ezra Sutton
        Jimmy Wynn

        Comment


        • #5
          Jake Beckley
          Roger Bresnahan
          Cupid Childs
          Darrell Evans
          Jack Glasscock
          Lefty Gomez
          Burleigh Grimes
          Addie Joss
          Chuck Klein
          Rabbit Maranville
          Cal McVey
          Tony Mullane
          Thurman Munson
          Dickey Pearce
          Lip Pike
          Dan Quisenberry
          Sam Rice
          Hardy Richardson
          Phil Rizzuto
          Lee Smith
          Joe Start
          Vern Stephens
          Ezra Sutton
          Hack Wilson
          Jimmy Wynn

          I had a small turnover where a few people were added and a few dropped from the last election.
          Last edited by jjpm74; 02-23-2008, 09:29 AM.

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          • #6
            Jake Beckley
            Chief Bender
            Akira Bessho
            Bobby Bonds
            Roger Bresnahan
            Pete Browning
            Kiki Cuyler
            Lefty Gomez
            Burleigh Grimes
            Addie Joss
            Chuck Klein
            Heinie Manush
            Cal McVey
            Tony Mullane
            Al Oliver
            Alejandro Oms
            Dan Quisenberry
            Jim Rice
            Sam Rice
            Jimmy Ryan
            Lee Smith
            Larry Walker
            Mickey Welch
            Vic Willis
            Hack Wilson

            I am replacing Sutter with Bresnahan.
            Last edited by Cowtipper; 02-23-2008, 09:08 AM.

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            • #7
              Akira Bessho
              Roger Bresnahan
              Cupid Childs
              Wilbur Cooper
              Leon Day
              Darrell Evans
              Jack Glasscock
              Burleigh Grimes
              Dick Lundy
              Edgar Martinez
              Cal McVey
              Tony Mullane
              Hiromitsu Ochiai
              Alejandro Oms
              Dan Quisenberry
              Sam Rice
              Hardy Richardson
              Jimmy Sheckard
              Joe Start
              Vern Stephens
              Ezra Sutton
              Quincy Trouppe
              Bucky Walters
              Vic Willis
              Jimmy Wynn
              Last edited by Chadwick; 02-23-2008, 10:20 AM.
              "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
              "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
              "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
              "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

              Comment


              • #8
                Jake Beckley, 1b
                Akira Bessho, p
                Roger Bresnahan, c
                Pete Browning, of
                Jose Canseco, of
                Cupid Childs, 2b
                Darrell Evans, 3b
                Lefty Gomez, p
                Burleigh Grimes, p
                Addie Joss, p
                Dave Kingman, 1b
                Chuck Klein, of
                Edgar Martinez, 3b
                Cal McVey, 1b
                Tony Mullane, p
                Alejandro Oms,of
                Dan Quisenberry, p
                Rafael Palmeiro, 1b
                Sam Rice, of
                Jimmy Sheckard, of
                Joe Start, 1b
                Hack Wilson, of
                Mickey Welch, p
                Jimmy Wynn, of
                Vic Willis, p
                My dream ballpark dimensions
                LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
                RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
                Location....San Diego

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                • #9
                  --The return of the 25 man ballot (although I don't feel especially certain about some of these)
                  Bessho, A.
                  Bresnahan, R.
                  Bridges, T.
                  Cash, N.
                  Childs, C.
                  Cooper, W.
                  Gomez, L.
                  Grimes, B.
                  Hernandez, K.
                  Howard, E.
                  Leach, T.
                  Lombardi, E.
                  Morris, J.
                  McVey, C.
                  Mullane, T.
                  Munson. T.
                  Nettles, G
                  Ohms, A.
                  Parrish, L.
                  Quisenberry, D.
                  Rice, J.
                  Sheckard, J.
                  Start, J.
                  Wilson, H.
                  Wynn, J.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Jake Beckley
                    Akira Bessho
                    Pete Browning
                    Kiki Cuyler
                    Leon Day
                    Jack Glasscock
                    Lefty Gomez
                    Burleigh Grimes
                    Bob Johnson
                    Addie Joss
                    Chuck Klein
                    Ernie Lombardi
                    Heinie Manush
                    Hiromitsu Ochiai
                    Alejandro Oms
                    Rafael Palmeiro
                    Spot Poles
                    Jim Rice
                    Sam Rice
                    Jimmy Ryan
                    Jimmy Sheckard
                    Lee Smith
                    Joe Start
                    Mickey Welch
                    Hack Wilson
                    __________________
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                    Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
                    Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
                    Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
                    Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Jake Beckley
                      Roger Bresnahan
                      Pete Browning
                      Kiki Cuyler
                      Bob Elliott
                      Darrell Evans
                      Dwight Evans
                      Burleigh Grimes
                      Lefty Gomez
                      Keith Hernandez
                      Addie Joss
                      Chuck Klein
                      Edgar Martinez
                      Cal McVey
                      Rafael Palmeiro
                      Dickey Pearce
                      Dan Quisenberry
                      Sam Rice
                      Hardy Richardson
                      Joe Start
                      Vern Stephens
                      Ezra Sutton
                      Larry Walker
                      Mickey Welch
                      Hack Wilson
                      Nos Amours! ... 1969-2004

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Dropped Klein... added Berger:

                        Jake Beckley*
                        Chief Bender*
                        Wally Berger
                        Bobby Bonds
                        Roger Bresnahan
                        Tommy Bridges*
                        Lefty Gomez
                        Addie Joss
                        Tommy Leach
                        Rabbit Maranville*
                        Edgar Martinez
                        Dan Quisenberry
                        Jimmy Ryan
                        Lee Smith*
                        Larry Walker
                        Mickey Welch
                        Vic Willis
                        Jimmy Wynn
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                        * = bubble
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                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Easy. Same as last election.

                          17 Beckley-1B
                          5 Bresnahan-C
                          4 Browning P-OF*
                          2 Childs-2B*
                          33 Evans Da-3B*
                          21 Evans Dw-RF*
                          26 Glasscock-SS*
                          12 Grimes-P
                          21 Hernandez-1B*
                          4 Keller-LF*
                          5 Klein-RF
                          2 Leach T-3B*
                          8 Martinez E-DH*
                          3 McVey-C*
                          5 Nettles-3B*
                          2 Oms-RF*
                          22 Palmeiro-1B*
                          10 Pearce D-SS*
                          2 Pike-CF*
                          9 Richardson H-2B*
                          8 Ryan J-CF*
                          7 Sheckard-LF*
                          9 Start-1B*
                          3 Sutton E-3B*
                          26 Wynn J-CF*
                          10.6 ave mos on ballot

                          * = not in HOF
                          bold = member of the Hall of Merit
                          Last edited by Freakshow; 03-30-2008, 07:25 PM.
                          Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.

                          Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Tommy Bond
                            Pete Browning
                            Kiki Cuyler
                            Lefty Gomez
                            Bob Johnson
                            Chuck Klein
                            Tony Lazzeri
                            Ernie Lombardi
                            Heinie Manush
                            Edgar Martinez
                            Bobby Matthews
                            Jim McCormick
                            Cal McVey
                            Tony Mullane
                            Tony Oliva
                            Al Oliver
                            Rafael Palmeiro
                            Jim Rice
                            Al Rosen
                            Lee Smith
                            Vern Stephens
                            Larry Walker
                            Mickey Welch
                            Vic Willis
                            Hack Wilson

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              My March 14, 2008 ballot

                              PLAYERS
                              Sal Bando
                              Wally Berger
                              Akira Bessho
                              Bobby Bonds
                              Roger Bresnahan
                              Cupid Childs
                              Wilbur Cooper
                              Darrell Evans
                              Dwight Evans
                              Burleigh Grimes
                              Keith Hernandez
                              Charlie Keller
                              Masaaki Koyama
                              Tommy Leach
                              Hiromitsu Ochiai
                              Alejandro Oms
                              Dickey Pearce
                              Spotswood Poles
                              Dan Quisenberry
                              Jimmy Sheckard
                              Joe Start
                              Ezra Sutton
                              Quincy Trouppe
                              Vic Willis
                              Jimmy Wynn

                              Koyama appears on a ballot for the first time. Jim has done some nice work on him, and his work forms the basis for my vote. He left two spots open on this month's ballot, but that was in case he wanted to push a candidate forward as a result of increased support. He does see Koyama as worthy of the BBFHOF.

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