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    Please direct all questions, comments, suggestions or bribes to Chancellor via Private Message. Many questions can also be answered by reading these rules and/or asking our many knowledgeable voters in the Discussion thread.
    "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
    "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
    "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
    "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

  • #2
    Albert Belle
    Lou Boudreau
    Bobby Bonds
    Ken Boyer
    Will Clark
    Stan Coveleski
    Dizzy Dean
    Willie Foster
    Bill Freehan
    Bobby Grich
    Isao Harimoto
    Bob Johnson
    Bob Lemon
    Ted Lyons
    Edgar Martinez
    Dale Murphy
    Shigeo Nagashima
    Kirby Puckett
    Dick Redding
    Pee Wee Reese
    Enos Slaughter
    Mickey Welch
    Jud Wilson
    Early Wynn
    Jimmy Wynn

    Charles Comiskey
    Jack Dunn
    John B. Foster
    Bob Howsam
    Dave Johnson
    Tetsuharu Kawakami
    Paul Krichell
    Judge K.M. Landis
    Billy Martin
    Walter O'Malley
    John Schuerholtz
    George Steinbrenner
    C.I. Taylor
    George Weiss
    J.L. Wilkinson
    "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
    "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
    "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
    "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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    • #3
      March Player's Ballot


      Albert Belle
      Pete Browning
      Stan Colveleski
      Dizzy Dean
      Hugh Duffy
      Rollie Fingers
      Willie Foster
      Frank Grant
      Stan Hack
      Isao Harimoto
      Addie Joss
      Joe Kelley
      Chuck Klein
      Bob Lemon
      Ted Lyons
      Carl Mays
      Shigeo Nagashima
      Kirby Puckett
      Canonball Dick Redding
      Pee Wee Reese
      Harry Stovey
      Bruce Sutter
      Mickey Welch
      Jud Wilson
      Early Wynn

      Non-Player's Ballot

      Al Barlick
      Jack Buck
      Harry Caray
      Charles Comiskey
      Tommy Connolly
      Jack Dunn
      Curt Gowdy
      Clark Griffith
      Ernie Harwell
      Hugh Jennings
      Tetsuharu Kawakami
      Paul Krichell
      Kenesaw Mountain Landis
      Walter O'Malley
      Vin Scully
      Last edited by julusnc; 03-04-2006, 08:45 PM.

      Comment


      • #4
        March 2006 ballot

        bold = new to my ballot

        Earl Averill
        Lou Boudreau - 15th time on my ballot
        Jim Bunning
        Max Carey
        Stan Coveleski
        Red Faber
        Wes Ferrell
        Rollie Fingers
        Willie Foster
        Elmer Flick
        Bobby Grich
        Isao Harimoto
        Joe Kelley
        Ted Lyons
        Dale Murphy
        Shigeo Nagashima
        Tony Perez
        Kirby Puckett
        Pee Wee Reese
        Red Ruffing
        Enos Slaughter
        Bobby Wallace
        Jud Wilson
        George Wright
        Early Wynn

        Comment


        • #5
          Earl Averill
          Jake Beckley
          Albert Belle
          Pete Browning
          Stan Colveleski
          Dizzy Dean
          Hugh Duffy
          Rollie Fingers
          Stan Hack
          Addie Joss
          Joe Kelley
          Chuck Klein
          Bob Lemon
          Ted Lyons
          Kirby Puckett
          Pee Wee Reese
          Harry Stovey
          Bruce Sutter
          Mickey Welch
          Early Wynn

          Top Japanese Leaguer
          Top Japanese Leaguer

          Top Negro Leaguer
          Top Negro Leaguer
          Top Negro Leaguer



          Jack Buck
          Harry Caray
          Charles Comiskey
          Tommy Connolly
          Jack Dunn
          Curt Gowdy
          Clark Griffith
          Ernie Harwell
          Hugh Jennings
          Paul Krichell
          Kenesaw Mountain Landis
          Walter O'Malley
          Vin Scully

          Top Japanese League Contributor

          Top Negro League Contributor
          Last edited by NationalPastime1980; 03-01-2006, 11:06 AM.

          Comment


          • #6
            Earl Averill
            John Beckwith
            Albert Belle
            Lou Boudreau
            Stan Coveleski
            Kiki Cuyler
            Leon Day
            Dizzy Dean
            Rollie Fingers
            Willie Foster
            Judy Johnson
            Addie Joss
            Chuck Klein
            Bob Lemon
            Heinie Manush
            Kirby Puckett
            Dick Redding
            Sam Rice
            Edd Roush
            Jimmy Ryan
            Hilton Smith
            Victor Starffin
            Bruce Sutter
            Mickey Welch
            Jud Wilson




            Non-Players

            Al Barlick
            Happy Chandler
            Nestor Chylak
            Jocko Conlan
            Tom Connolly
            Billy Evans
            Clark Griffith
            Ernie Harwell
            Cal Hubbard
            Kenesaw Mountain Landis
            Ring Lardner
            Buck O'Neill
            Grantland Rice
            Red Smith
            J.L. Wilkinson
            Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
            Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
            Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
            Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
            Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

            Comment


            • #7
              We finally had a secondbaseman break through last election, let's get another. The average months on my ballot is at its highest since election #14, when Jackson, Jackson, Rose and Winfield were in the logjam.

              3 Averill-CF
              7 Boudreau-SS
              5 Boyer K-3B*
              3 Coveleski-P
              4 Doerr-2B
              5 Drysdale D-P
              4 Evans Da.-3B*
              3 Faber-P
              1 Ferrell W-P*
              1 Gordon-2B*
              3 Gore-CF*
              13 Grich-2B*
              2 Lemon B-P
              7 Lyons T-P
              3 McPhee-2B
              6 Murphy D-CF*
              9 Puckett-CF
              8 Reese-SS
              1 Ruffing-P
              7 Slaughter-RF
              10 Sutton D-P
              3 Wallace-SS
              10 Whitaker-2B*
              10 Wright Geo-SS
              4 Wynn E.-P
              5.3 ave mos on ballot
              Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.

              Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.

              Comment


              • #8
                Players

                Lou Boudreau
                Pete Browning
                Max Carey
                Will Clark
                Stan Coveleski
                Dizzy Dean
                Rollie Fingers
                Elmer Flick
                Bill Freehan
                Bobby Grich
                Burleigh Grimes
                Judy Johnson
                Addie Joss
                Chuck Klein
                Ted Lyons
                Edgar Martinez
                Shigeo Nagashima
                Kirby Puckett
                Pee Wee Reese
                Red Ruffing
                Enos Slaughter
                Bruce Sutter
                Luis Tiant
                Mickey Welch
                Jimmy Wynn


                Non-Players

                Jim Bouton - author
                Harry Caray - announcer
                Jacques Doucet - announcer
                Curt Flood - free agent wannabe
                Clark Griffith – Owner/Pioneer
                Hughie Jennings - manager
                Dr. Frank Jobe - developed Tommy John Surgery
                Ring Lardner - writer
                Billy Martin - manager
                Jack Norworth - wrote "Take Me Out To The Ballgame"
                Buck O'Neill - manager
                Paul Richards - builder
                Lawrence Ritter - author
                Ernest Thayer - wrote "Casey at the Bat"
                Grantland Rice - writer
                Last edited by Eastvanmungo; 03-01-2006, 01:27 PM.
                "(Van) Mungo and I get along fine. I just tell him I won't stand for no nonsense, and then I duck."
                Casey Stengel

                Comment


                • #9
                  Players' Ballot

                  Lou Boudreau
                  Jim Bunning
                  Stan Coveleski
                  Leon Day
                  Dizzy Dean
                  Don Drysdale
                  Wes Ferrell
                  Willie Foster
                  Burleigh Grimes
                  Judy Johnson
                  Bob Lemon
                  Ted Lyons
                  Edgar Martinez
                  Bill Mazeroski
                  Jose Mendez
                  Kirby Puckett
                  Pee Wee Reese
                  Jim Rice
                  Eppa Rixey
                  Red Ruffing
                  Enos Slaughter
                  Hilton Smith
                  Bruce Sutter
                  Early Wynn
                  Wally Yonamine

                  Contributors' Ballot

                  Al Barlick
                  Jack Brickhouse
                  Harry Caray
                  Happy Chandler
                  Nestor Chylak
                  Charlie Comiskey
                  Jocko Conlan
                  Tom Connally
                  John B. Foster
                  Doug Harvey
                  Bowie Kuhn
                  Walter O'Malley
                  Buck O'Neil
                  C.I. Taylor
                  J.L. Wilkinson

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    March 2006 Player's Ballot

                    Jake Beckley
                    Albert Belle
                    Pete Browning
                    Stan Colveleski
                    Dizzy Dean
                    Hugh Duffy
                    Rollie Fingers
                    Willie Foster
                    Stan Hack
                    Isao Harimoto
                    Jim Hunter
                    Addie Joss
                    Chuck Klein
                    Bob Lemon
                    Ted Lyons
                    Carl Mays
                    Shigeo Nagashima
                    Kirby Puckett
                    Dick Redding
                    Pee Wee Reese
                    Harry Stovey
                    Bruce Sutter
                    Mickey Welch
                    Jud Wilson
                    Early Wynn



                    March 2006 Contributor's Ballot

                    Jack Brickhouse
                    Jack Buck
                    Harry Caray
                    Charles Comiskey
                    Tommy Connolly
                    Jack Dunn
                    Curt Gowdy
                    Clark Griffith
                    Ernie Harwell
                    Hugh Jennings
                    Tetsuharu Kawakami
                    Paul Krichell
                    Kenesaw Mountain Landis
                    Walter O'Malley
                    Vin Scully

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Jake Beckley
                      Albert Belle
                      Pete Browning
                      Stan Colveleski
                      Dizzy Dean
                      Hugh Duffy
                      Rollie Fingers
                      Willie Foster
                      Stan Hack
                      Isao Harimoto
                      Joe Kelley
                      Chuck Klein
                      Bob Lemon
                      Ted Lyons
                      Carl Mays
                      Shigeo Nagashima
                      Kirby Puckett
                      Dick Redding
                      Pee Wee Reese
                      Harry Stovey
                      Bruce Sutter
                      Mickey Welch
                      Jud Wilson
                      Early Wynn

                      Leading Japanese Vote
                      --------------------------------------


                      Jack Buck
                      Harry Carray
                      Charles Comiskey
                      Tommy Connolly
                      Jack Dunn
                      Curt Gowdy
                      Clark Griffith
                      Ernie Harwell
                      Hugh Jennings
                      Tetsuharu Kawakami
                      Paul Krichell
                      Kenesaw Mountain Landis
                      Walter O'Malley
                      Vin Scully
                      J.L. Wilkinson

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Jake Beckley
                        Albert Belle
                        Lou Boudreau
                        Pete Browning
                        Stan Colveleski
                        Dizzy Dean
                        Hugh Duffy
                        Rollie Fingers
                        Willie Foster
                        Stan Hack
                        Isao Harimoto
                        Joe Kelley
                        Chuck Klein
                        Bob Lemon
                        Ted Lyons
                        Carl Mays
                        Shigeo Nagashima
                        Kirby Puckett
                        Dick Redding
                        Pee Wee Reese
                        Harry Stovey
                        Bruce Sutter
                        Mickey Welch
                        Jud Wilson
                        Early Wynn


                        Jack Brickhouse
                        Jack Buck
                        Harry Caray
                        Charles Comiskey
                        Jack Dunn
                        Curt Gowdey
                        Clark Griffith
                        Ernie Harwell
                        Hugh Jennings
                        KM Landis
                        Walter O'Malley
                        Vin Scully
                        Bob Uecker
                        JL Wilkinson
                        George Wright
                        Last edited by Dudeman; 03-03-2006, 09:28 AM.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          PLAYERS
                          E.Averill
                          A.Belle
                          L.Boudreau
                          K.Boyer
                          S.Coveleski
                          D.Dean
                          W.Ferrell
                          W.Foster
                          B.Freehan
                          B.Grich
                          S.Hack
                          K.Inao
                          B.Lemon
                          T.Lyons
                          S.Nagashima
                          K.Puckett
                          D.Redding
                          P.Reese
                          S.Rice
                          E.Slaughter
                          H.Stovey
                          M.Welch
                          J.Wilson
                          E.Wynn
                          J.Wynn

                          CONTRIBUTORS
                          C.Comiskey
                          J.Dunn
                          J.Foster
                          C.Griffith
                          H.Jennings
                          P.Krichell
                          K.Landis
                          B.Martin
                          W.O'Malley
                          J.Pasquel
                          J.Schuerholz
                          G.Steinbrenner
                          C.I.Taylor
                          G.Weiss
                          J.L.Wilkinson
                          So, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.--Dark Helmet--Spaceballs

                          Go St. Louis!

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Eastvanmungo
                            Ernest Thayer - wrote "Casey at the Bat"
                            UGH! when ur name is casey,that poem haunts you your entire baseball career.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              My March ballot

                              key:
                              red=Japanese League
                              blue=Negro Leagues
                              green=19th century

                              I had three of the four inductees from February, and I've decided to go for Rollie Fingers over Tony Mullane, whose parachute hasn't shown any signs of opening. My new additions are Coveleski, Stan Hack and George Wright.

                              Contributors:


                              1. Ed Bolden (Negro Leagues owner/commissioner)
                              2. Harry Caray
                              3. Vic Harris
                              4. Hughie Jennings
                              5. Dr. Jobe
                              6. Tetsuharu Kawakami (managed the Yomiuri Giants to nine consecutive Japan Series wins, 11 Japan Series wins in 11 tries, never under .500 in 14 seasons managed)
                              7. Kennesaw Mountain Landis
                              8. Billy Martin
                              9. Shigeru Mizuhara (Japan)
                              10. Lefty O'Doul
                              11. Walter O'Malley
                              12. Matsutaro Shoriki (Japan)
                              13. C. I. Taylor
                              14. Kazuto Tsuruoka (managed 23 years in Japan, most wins by a manager in Japan, 11 pennants, 2 before Japan Series began, won 2 Japan Series titles, .500 or better 21 times)
                              15. J. L. Wilkerson


                              Players

                              1. Akira Bessho, p (Japan)
                              2. Lou Boudreau, ss
                              3. Stan Coveleski, p
                              4. Dizzy Dean, p
                              5. Rollie Fingers, p
                              6. Bill Freehan, c
                              7. Willie Foster, p
                              8. Joe Gordon, 2b
                              9. Bobby Grich, 2b
                              10. Burleigh Grimes, p
                              11. Stan Hack, 3b
                              12. Isao Harimoto, of (Japan)
                              13. Kazuhisa Inao p (Japan)
                              14. Shigeo Nagashima 3b (Japan)
                              15. Hiromitsu Ochiai 1B/3B (Japan)
                              16. Dave Parker, of
                              17. Cannonball Dick Redding, p
                              18. Pee Wee Reese ss
                              19. Red Ruffing p
                              20. Enos Slaughter, OF
                              21. Victor Starffin p (Japan)
                              22. Harry Stovey, of
                              23. Jud Wilson IF\
                              24. George Wright, ss
                              25. Early Wynn. p

                              Jim Albright
                              Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                              Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                              A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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