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  • The Ultimate Quest for Candidates: Round 1 – The 1970’s (part 2)

    Welcome to the Ultimate Quest for Candidates! This thread has the 11th poll in the first round, choosing the best candidates for the Hall of Fame from the MLB stars of the late 1970’s. You will be asked to vote for your top SIX (6) players (out of 18); another thread with a companion poll is posted for the stars of the early 1970's, where you are asked to vote for your top FIVE (5) players (out of 15). This decade has more candidates (33) than earlier decades because of expansion, as well as their recent vintage. None of these candidates were eligible for the HOF Veterans Committee before it was reformed in 2001; there’s still a lot of work to do. The polls will close a month after they open.

    I’m asking voters not to peek at the results of the voting until after they’ve cast their ballot. I would hope that voters are capable of independently assessing the candidates without worrying about whom the consensus is favoring.

    We will be judging players by the same criteria that the Hall of Fame uses:

    “voting shall be based upon the individual's record, ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character and contribution to the game.”

    So everything counts, their lifetime achievements on and off the field, along with their character and other intangibles.
    120
    Bert Blyleven
    16.67%
    20
    Cesar Cedeno
    1.67%
    2
    Ron Cey
    2.50%
    3
    Dave Concepcion
    6.67%
    8
    Darrell Evans
    10.00%
    12
    George Foster
    1.67%
    2
    Steve Garvey
    5.83%
    7
    Bobby Grich
    10.83%
    13
    Greg Luzinski
    0.00%
    0
    Fred Lynn
    2.50%
    3
    Graig Nettles
    9.17%
    11
    Al Oliver
    2.50%
    3
    Dave Parker
    11.67%
    14
    Darrell Porter
    0.00%
    0
    Rick Reuschel
    0.00%
    0
    Ted Simmons
    16.67%
    20
    Ken Singleton
    1.67%
    2
    Gene Tenace
    0.00%
    0

    The poll is expired.

    Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.

    Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.

  • #2
    Blyleven
    Grich
    Nettles
    Parker
    Simmons

    Please add Evans as I neglected to check off a sixth box. Thanks.
    "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
    "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
    "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
    "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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    • #3
      Blyleven
      Parker
      Simmons
      Oliver
      Garvey
      Foster

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Classic View Post
        Blyleven
        Grich
        Nettles
        Parker
        Simmons

        Please add Evans as I neglected to check off a sixth box. Thanks.
        You're not alone. We need one more name from Erik Bedard as well.
        Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.

        Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.

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        • #5
          Concepcion
          Foster
          Garvey
          Lynn
          Parker
          Simmons
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          • #6
            half-decade variability

            Simmons, Blyleven, Grich

            So far, so good

            Now, even the fifteen who remain look better than the early 1970s crowd.

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            • #7
              Blyleven, Evans, Garvey, Nettles, Simmons and Parker. And I gave extremely serious consideration to Grich. I'm in agreement with the consensus.

              This doesn't happen very often...
              3 6 10 21 29 31 35 41 42 44 47

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              • #8
                the consensus is running against Bobby Grich?

                Here they are by fielding position. How did any of you vote without this?
                Code:
                LF	CF	RF
                Foster	Cedeno	Parker
                LuzinskiLynn	Singleton
                	Oliver*
                
                3B	SS	2B	1B
                Evans	Concepc	Grich	Garvey
                Nettles
                Cey
                
                P
                Blyleven
                Reuschel
                
                C
                Simmons
                Tenace
                Porter
                *Oliver played far more in center than in right, but almost as much at firstbase.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Paul Wendt View Post
                  Simmons, Blyleven, Grich

                  So far, so good

                  Now, even the fifteen who remain look better than the early 1970s crowd.
                  I plunked for the glovemen who hit better than their colleagues and played a long time:
                  Concepcion, Evans, Nettles

                  Now why didn't I vote for Lave Cross in the 1890s?

                  The leader is a minor surprise but I had Luzinski pegged right on.

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                  • #10
                    Suprising to see 2 of my choices as solo votes....no love for Singleton or Cedeno? No one else is impressed by 200 HR/550 SB guy who was hampered severly by his home field in the power department? How about a lifetime 132 OPS+ guy with awesome OB skills and 246 HR, mostly in the HR defecient 70s?

                    No One?

                    This may be why BOTH of these guys fell to me in the "Burbs draft

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                    • #11
                      I gave Singy very serious consideration.
                      3 6 10 21 29 31 35 41 42 44 47

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                      • #12
                        No One?

                        They're in the "wrong" half-decade to pick up (m)any stray votes.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by baseballPAP View Post
                          Suprising to see 2 of my choices as solo votes....no love for Singleton or Cedeno? No one else is impressed by 200 HR/550 SB guy who was hampered severly by his home field in the power department? How about a lifetime 132 OPS+ guy with awesome OB skills and 246 HR, mostly in the HR defecient 70s?

                          No One?

                          This may be why BOTH of these guys fell to me in the "Burbs draft
                          --246 HR is not an impressive total for a corner outfielder. Especially one with very little defensive or baserunning value. Singleton was a valuable player and an underrated one. However his BEST skill was plate discipline and few, if any, players walk their way to the Hall of Fame.
                          --Cedeno was close to my ballot. He was a sensational talent for a few years. His park didn't just supress his power though, it (helped) wreck his knees and he ended up a poor man's Andre Dawson (though his best years were better). I barely support Dawson and he has longevity and doesn't have the character issues.

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                          • #14
                            Parker
                            Blyleven



                            Oliver

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by frehleyscomet View Post
                              Parker
                              Blyleven



                              Oliver
                              Please let me know (via PM if you prefer) who your next three choices in this poll would be. Voters are asked to pick their top six, exactly. Not six or less.
                              Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.

                              Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.

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