Banned Players

[blacksilverfan12]

Do Pete Rose or Joe Jackson belong in the Hall of Fame? Or both? Or neither?

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Do Pete Rose or Joe Jackson belong in the Hall of Fame? Or both? Or neither?

I don't understand your question. Are you asking if Rose and Jackson belong in the HoF based on their major league careers? Or you asking if they belong in the HOF despite being involved in gambling?

[Captain Cold Nose]

I'm just wondering whether or not Ron Santo belongs in the HOF.

[soberdennis]

I'm just wondering whether or not Ron Santo belongs in the HOF.

I didn't know Santo was ever banned. lol.
Seriously, I have always felt that Jackson should be in. And my argument has been when people ask about Rose if he gets in after being banned, than so should Jackson.
I voted both.

[Captain Cold Nose]

I didn't know Santo was ever banned. lol.
Seriously, I have always felt that Jackson should be in. And my argument has been when people ask about Rose if he gets in after being banned, than so should Jackson.
I voted both.

If you're well aware it's a crime, don't do it. Simple as that.

This subject comes up quite a bit here, but it's likely been quite a long time since we've done a poll on it. Whether or not it stays or gets merged is up to Jim.

[Brian McKenna]

They were both banned for good reasons.

[blacksilverfan12]

I don't understand your question. Are you aking if Rose and Jackson belong in the HoF based on their major league careers? Or you asking if they belong in the HOF despite noth being involved in gambling?

Despite being involved in gambling

[crazyhorsesghost]

Jackson should be in because I myself don't think he did anything wrong. I think he was used.

[KCGHOST]

Iconic figure that Shoeless Joe Jackson is cannot erase the fact he took money to throw World Series games. Those of you who want to quibble that he may have actually played well simply miss the point.

And a Rose is Rose except when its name is Pete.

[Erik Bedard]

Funny thing is, Jackson might not have the HoF support that he does now if he hadn't taken the money.

[Chadwick]

The only thing I have to add is that the voters should be permitted to make their own judgments about the character, integrity and sportsmanship of banned players rather than having such players institutionally excluded from consideration.

[KCGHOST]

Funny thing is, Jackson might not have the HoF support that he does now if he hadn't taken the money.

If he hadn't taken the money he wouldn't have been banished from the game. He almost certainly would have gone on to post the kind of numbers that would have made him a Top Tier HoFer.

[Brian McKenna]

I think he was used.

Yeah, he USED $5,000.

I wish someone would use me that way - and I won't even ask for the modern equivalent of the cash.

[Brian McKenna]

The only thing I have to add is that the voters should be permitted to make their own judgments about the character, integrity and sportsmanship of banned players rather than having such players institutionally excluded from consideration.

Not sure I understand this.

Are you saying that an organization has no right to administer itself and set down rules and regulations? That a group - whatever its line of business - whatever its market is - can and should not set guidelines for itself?

Where's the backbone? Who is going to run this organization which apparently doesn't have a say about itself or any mechanism to define itself?

[EdTarbusz]

Neither belong in. I think I may live to see the day that Rose is inducted, but I don't think Jackson will ever get in.