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  • #31
    Originally posted by dgarza View Post
    I bet I can throw a football over those mountains.
    Your mom goes to college.
    "It's good to be young and a Giant." - Larry Doyle

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    • #32
      I expect Martinez in the HOF and very soon. I would be surprised if he doesn't make it first ballot. But I would definitely say second at the very latest.

      Welcome back ARod. Hope you are a Yankee forever.
      Phil Rizzuto-a Yankee forever.

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      • #33
        Before 2008 season:

        209-93 record with a 2.80 ERA. 3030 K in 2673.2 IP.

        Vote YES for HOF

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        • #34
          Let's keep this discussion on baseball.
          Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
          Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
          A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by soberdennis View Post
            I expect Martinez in the HOF and very soon.
            I didn't realize how long he has played.
            One thing I find curious is that his most "Similar Pitcher" is a player who retired 100 years before Pedro broke in. If only Martinez could bat like Bob Caruthers.

            If all of Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, and Pedro Martinez retire the same year, would that hurt Martinez's 1 ballot chances much?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by jalbright View Post
              Let's keep this discussion on baseball.
              Ahhh. And I was going to make a comment how, on a scale of 1-10, Pedro Martinez is an 11.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by dgarza View Post
                If all of Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, and Pedro Martinez retire the same year, would that hurt Martinez's 1 ballot chances much?
                It depends on who is held over from previous elections. Does Mattingly or Raines keep Martinez off someone's ballot?

                For me, I would vote for Pedro before Randy. As to my opinion on Maddux, I believe the "Cy Young Award" should be renamed in Greg's honor.

                After seeing Pedro's stats, then I think it will be very difficult to keep him off the first ballot.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by hairmetalfreek View Post
                  It depends on who is held over from previous elections.
                  Good point, because if those 3 retire directly after this season, they may have to deal with Clemens still being on the ballot.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by dgarza View Post
                    they may have to deal with Clemens still being on the ballot.
                    Clemens lost my support with the whole steroids thing. As did Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, et al.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by hairmetalfreek View Post
                      Clemens lost my support with the whole steroids thing. As did Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, et al.
                      Instead of being knocked off the ballot one way or another (either by induction or getting less than 5%), they could linger and draw large numbers of votes. McGwire has already shown this.

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                      • #41
                        I'd like it if he'd quit before his career ERA gets over 3.00.

                        He's a sure-fire Hall of Famer.

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                        • #42
                          This is awesome:

                          http://news.yahoo.com/video/pedro-ma...010700562.html

                          Pedro Martinez says he had a chance to take the short path and not miss a handful of starts along the way. He says it was better to miss the starts than to miss the respect he was shown this week.

                          That's Awesome.

                          He does not say steroids or PEDs, but says short path and says he had more than one opportunity to cheat.
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                          Garvey, Lopes, Russell, and Cey started 833 times and the Dodgers went 498-335, for a .598 winning percentage. That’s equal to a team going 97-65 over a season. On those occasions when at least one of them missed his start, the Dodgers were 306-267-1, which is a .534 clip. That works out to a team going 87-75. So having all four of them added 10 wins to the Dodgers per year.
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5hCIvMule0

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