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    If the Hall of Fame started today, what 20 players would you put in (among eligible candidates)? I say 20, because 5 were elected in the first election in 1936, and I think given the 70 years of additional baseball since then, it's fair to say that the number of qualified candidates for the first election has quadrupled.

  • #2
    I think this would be my first 20:

    Lou Gehrig - First Base
    Rogers Hornsby - Second Base
    Jackie Robinson - Second Base
    Honus Wagner - Shortstop
    Mike Schmidt - Third Base
    Ted Williams - Left Field
    Stan Musial - Left Field
    Willie Mays - Center Field
    Ty Cobb - Center Field
    Mickey Mantle - Center Field
    Tris Speaker - Center Field
    Joe DiMaggio - Center Field
    Babe Ruth - Right Field
    Hank Aaron - Right Field
    Frank Robinson - Right Field
    Walter Johnson - Starting Pitcher
    Lefty Grove - Starting Pitcher
    Pete Alexander - Starting Pitcher
    Cy Young - Starting Pitcher
    Tom Seaver - Starting Pitcher

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    • #3
      --Twenty is a tough cut. My first draft;
      C: Bench, Berra
      1B: Gehrig, Anson
      2B: Robinson
      3B: Schmidt
      SS: Wagner, Ripken
      LF: Williams, Musial
      CF: Mays, Cobb
      RF: Ruth, Aaron
      P: W. Johnson, Young, Grove, Spahn, Seaver
      --These are not my twenty BEST players, but the 20 most deserving. I'm sticking to eligible players as requested, which means 10 MLB years and retired 5 years. Thus no Negro Leaguers or active/recently retired players (Ripken eligible as of next election, close enough).
      --I've actually only listed 19. I'm still mulling over my 20th. Candidates include; Eddie Collins, Rogers Hornsby, Joe Morgan, George Brett, Rickey Henderson, Mickey Mantle and Frank Robinson (all 3 2Bs listed were better than Jackie Robinson, but he has to be in the first class). Tris Speaker might jump over some of those guys in the 2nd election, but misses the cut for number one. Being a great player is my first criteria, but having an important historical role is a boost and all eras need to be represented.

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      • #4
        Rickey isn't eligible yet Mark.

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        • #5
          --Or even officially retired . Guess that narrows it down to 6 candidates for my last spot.

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          • #6
            With my rationale being representation at each position (including RP), and additions for unique and age-tested accomplishments....(again, NOT necessarily the BEST, but the most notable imho).

            C-Berra
            1B-Gehrig
            2B- J. Robinson
            SS- Wagner
            3B- Schmidt
            OF- Ruth, Cobb, Williams, Musial, Mantle, Mays, DiMaggio, Aaron
            SP- Young, Johnson, Grove, Mathewson, Spahn, Ryan
            RP- Eckersley

            Thinking also of: Speaker, Hornsby, Cochrane, Alexander, Foxx, Wilhelm, Greenberg, Gibson; limited though to 20 guys!
            "Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio, a nation turns its lonely eyes to you. What's that you say Mrs. Robinson? Joltin' Joe has left and gone away. Hey hey hey."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by leecemark
              --Or even officially retired . Guess that narrows it down to 6 candidates for my last spot.
              According to the HoF rules, Rickey is already accruing time towards the five year waiting period. Playing minor league ball doesn't delay the five year waiting period.
              Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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              • #8
                --True, but The Rickey has said frequently he is still hoping for another major league shot. Should he manage to get even a brief appearance with somebody his clock would start over again.

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                • #9
                  I wouldn't be surprised if Rickey comes back and makes an appearance with the A's at the end of one of these seasons, provided that the A's are out of it. There was talk about Billy Beane considering that last season, but only if was sure that Rickey would retire afterwards.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DoubleX
                    I think this would be my first 20:

                    Lou Gehrig - First Base
                    Rogers Hornsby - Second Base
                    Jackie Robinson - Second Base
                    Honus Wagner - Shortstop
                    Mike Schmidt - Third Base
                    Ted Williams - Left Field
                    Stan Musial - Left Field
                    Willie Mays - Center Field
                    Ty Cobb - Center Field
                    Mickey Mantle - Center Field
                    Tris Speaker - Center Field
                    Joe DiMaggio - Center Field
                    Babe Ruth - Right Field
                    Hank Aaron - Right Field
                    Frank Robinson - Right Field
                    Walter Johnson - Starting Pitcher
                    Lefty Grove - Starting Pitcher
                    Pete Alexander - Starting Pitcher
                    Cy Young - Starting Pitcher
                    Tom Seaver - Starting Pitcher
                    Somebody said that if you don't have a catcher, you have a lot of passed balls

                    P-Paige, WJohnson, Young, Clemens, Alexander, Grove, Maddux
                    C-Bench, Berra
                    1B-Gehrig, Foxx
                    2B-Collins, Hornsby
                    3B-Schmidt, Mathews
                    SS-Wagner
                    OF-Ruth, Cobb, Mays, Aaron

                    And a LOT of second-guessing myself h
                    Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RuthMayBond
                      Somebody said that if you don't have a catcher, you have a lot of passed balls

                      P-Paige, WJohnson, Young, Clemens, Alexander, Grove, Maddux
                      C-Bench, Berra
                      1B-Gehrig, Foxx
                      2B-Collins, Hornsby
                      3B-Schmidt, Mathews
                      SS-Wagner
                      OF-Ruth, Cobb, Mays, Aaron

                      And a LOT of second-guessing myself h
                      Clemens and Maddux aren't eligible candidates.
                      Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
                      Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
                      Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
                      Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
                      Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

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                      • #12
                        I see that 19th century players and pioneers aren't getting much love.
                        Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Captain Cold Nose
                          Clemens and Maddux aren't eligible candidates.
                          Wow, I know what I'm doing Replace them with Mathewson and, uh, Seaver or Nichols?
                          Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                          • #14
                            I agree with this list with just a couple of changes.

                            Johnny Bench
                            Lou Gehrig
                            Rogers Hornsby
                            Jackie Robinson
                            Honus Wagner
                            Mike Schmidt
                            Ted Williams
                            Stan Musial
                            Willie Mays
                            Ty Cobb
                            Mickey Mantle
                            Tris Speaker
                            Joe DiMaggio
                            Babe Ruth
                            Hank Aaron
                            Walter Johnson
                            Lefty Grove
                            Cy Young
                            Christy Mathewson
                            Nolan Ryan
                            1968 and 1984, the greatest ever.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tigerfan1974
                              I agree with this list with just a couple of changes.

                              Walter Johnson
                              Lefty Grove
                              Cy Young
                              Christy Mathewson
                              Nolan Ryan
                              One of these things is not like the other, which one of these things does not belong
                              Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                              Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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