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  • I have unstuck this old faithful thread, owing to its disuse due to the fact the project is lying fallow until November. However, I have compensated somewhat by 1) making this post to notify others of the change, and, perhaps more importantly, added a link to it in the Resources thread, which remains sitickied.
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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    • * BUMP!*

      It's a new day at the Baseball Fever Hall of Fame!
      http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...-showalter.gif

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      • What happened to BlueBlood? (There is a BlueBlood page here, which means no change in pseudonym, I presume.)

        Originally posted by BlueBlood View Post
        2) I think the people that usually vote later are the type to be fine with PEDs. I'm sure Paul Wendt and AG2004 will put their support behind such players although nothing is guaranteed in life.
        Correct, I would have voted for Bonds and Clemens. I had voted for Palmeiro in the last eight cycles.

        Originally posted by BlueBlood View Post
        Had I called upon a few former Beckley voters, Jake might've been able to reach 12 of 16 and be elected since Paul Wendt never showed...ah well.
        Ha! You "let down" the friends of Beckley and I "let down" the enemies but I alone escaped without consequences.

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        • Are we going to have a BBF HOF election this year?
          Cowtipper
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          Last edited by Cowtipper; 11-19-2011, 04:19 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Cowtipper View Post
            Are we going to have a BBF HOF election this year?
            It seems unlikely unless someone else wants to take up the reigns. The person in charge of this has gone missing for a second year in a row.

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            • If no one takes it within a week, I will.

              Here's a link to the prior election: http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth...scussion-Forum

              Here's a link to the list of guys who would become eligible: http://www.baseball-reference.com/bu...f_Fame_in_2016

              If anyone thinks I'm missing any names that should be eligible, let me know.
              Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
              Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
              A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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              • Originally posted by jalbright View Post
                If no one takes it within a week, I will.

                Here's a link to the prior election: http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth...scussion-Forum

                Here's a link to the list of guys who would become eligible: http://www.baseball-reference.com/bu...f_Fame_in_2016

                If anyone thinks I'm missing any names that should be eligible, let me know.
                He won't get elected, but I think Jamie Moyer should be eligible this year.

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                • Not for me. He's still stated his intention to return, and at present, he's not listed as eligible for voting by the BBWAA in 2016. By those standards, I can't include him right now.
                  Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                  Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                  A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                  • This fall will mark 10 years since this project began. We will conduct our 75th election.

                    With the baseball season almost halfway over, it's time to resurrect this project and start looking towards our annual election this fall.

                    You can find an index to all things BBFHoF here, the first post of this thread.

                    This may be the first time for many of you to get acquainted with the granddaddy of Fever projects, or, for the rest of us, it may just be a good time to reacquaint ourselves with the membership and history of the project. Either way, I would encourage everyone to start checking out this thread, which will be updated regularly between now and the election.

                    Stay tuned for all kinds of fun!
                    "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                    "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                    "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                    "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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                    • BBFHoF vs. Cooperstown

                      The Baseball Fever Hall of Fame has 339 members. Cooperstown has 300.

                      Our eligibility rules are different. Discounting broadcasters and writers from contributor consideration, banned (Rose, Jackson, etc.), excluded (Japanese and Negro Leaguers) and players yet to debut on the BBWAA ballot, that removes 46 inductees from the BBFHoF for purposes of comparison, giving us 293 members to Cooperstown’s 300. And that’s a conservative number. We have nearly a dozen inductees at the BBFHoF who spent 1-15 years on the BBWAA ballot, dropped off and now have a long wait before they become eligible for consideration by the Veterans Committee. I also gave a lot of leeway to the contributors, but it’s highly questionable whether people like Sy Barger or Charles Conlon would ever be considered eligible as “pioneers”.

                      The breakdown of 237 players in Cooperstown to our 272 players actually winds up being 237 to 241, so quite comparable after the reasonable factoring out of “ineligibles”. That leaves Cooperstown’s contributor count at a massive advantage of 63 to our more modest total of 52.

                      To summarize, using a liberal approach to factoring out candidates who are ineligible for Cooperstown, the National Baseball Hall of Fame has about 2% more inductees overall than Baseball Fever, but while Cooperstown’s playing members represent 79% of their overall inductees, our players represent 82% of our total membership.

                      Baseball Fever moved from a monthly to an annual election schedule once we surpassed the number of inductees in Cooperstown, but it seems we’ve since fallen behind their pace.

                      There are 237 individuals who have been inducted into both Cooperstown and the BBFHoF.

                      102 Cooperstown Missed
                      Code:
                      Doc Adams
                      Dick Allen
                      Mel Allen
                      Jeff Bagwell
                      Red Barber
                      Sy Barger
                      Ross Barnes
                      John Beckwith
                      Albert Belle
                      Charlie Bennett
                      Akira Bessho
                      Craig Biggio
                      Ed Bolden
                      Barry Bonds
                      Ken Boyer
                      Bob Caruthers
                      Perucho Cepeda
                      Cupid Childs
                      Will Clark
                      Roger Clemens
                      Charles Conlon
                      Wilbur Cooper
                      Bobby Cox
                      Jim Creighton
                      Bill Dahlen
                      Larry Doyle
                      Jack Dunn
                      Darrell Evans
                      Wes Ferrell
                      Bill Freehan
                      Jack Glasscock
                      Tom Glavine
                      George Gore
                      Bobby Grich
                      Ken Griffey Jr.
                      Heinie Groh
                      Vladimir Guerrero
                      Stan Hack
                      Isao Harimoto
                      Ernie Harwell
                      Keith Hernandez
                      Paul Hines
                      Kazuhisa Inao
                      Joe Jackson
                      Bill James
                      Grant Johnson
                      Randy Johnson
                      Masaichi Kaneda
                      Tetsuharu Kawakami
                      Jeff Kent
                      Tony LaRussa
                      Greg Maddux
                      Sherry Magee
                      Edgar Martinez
                      Pedro Martinez
                      Carl Mays
                      Fred McGriff
                      Mark McGwire
                      Cal McVey
                      Marvin Miller
                      Minnie Minoso
                      Dobie Moore
                      Tony Mullane
                      Dale Murphy
                      Mike Mussina
                      Shigeo Nagashima
                      Graig Nettles
                      Katsuya Nomura
                      Lefty O’Doul
                      Sadaharu Oh
                      Alejandro Oms
                      Buck O’Neil
                      Dave Parker
                      Dickey Pearce
                      Mike Piazza
                      Dan Quisenberry
                      Tim Raines
                      Manny Ramirez
                      Al Reach
                      Dick Redding
                      Hardy Richardson
                      Francis Richter
                      Ivan Rodriguez
                      Pete Rose
                      Curt Schilling
                      Vin Scully
                      Matsutaro Shoriki
                      Ted Simmons
                      John Smoltz
                      J.G. Taylor Spink
                      Victor Starffin
                      Joe Start
                      Harry Stovey
                      Ezra Sutton
                      C.I. Taylor
                      Frank Thomas
                      Joe Torre
                      Alan Trammell
                      Kazuto Tsuruoka
                      George Van Haltren
                      Larry Walker
                      Lou Whitaker
                      63 Hall of Famers We Rejected
                      Code:
                      Dave Bancroft
                      Al Barlick
                      Chief Bender
                      Jim Bottomley
                      Morgan Bulkeley
                      Happy Chandler
                      Jack Chesbro
                      Nestor Chylak
                      Earle Combs
                      Jocko Conlan
                      Andy Cooper
                      Candy Cummings
                      Kiki Cuyler
                      Leon Day
                      Barney Dreyfuss
                      Billy Evans
                      Johnny Evers
                      Rick Ferrell
                      Ford Frick
                      Warren Giles
                      Lefty Gomez
                      Chick Hafey
                      Jesse Haines
                      Will Harridge
                      Bucky Harris
                      Doug Harvey
                      Harry Hooper
                      Waite Hoyt
                      Cal Hubbard
                      Catfish Hunter
                      Travis Jackson
                      Judy Johnson
                      Addie Joss
                      George Kell
                      George Kelly
                      Chuck Klein
                      Bowie Kuhn
                      Tony Lazzeri
                      Freddie Lindstrom
                      Ernie Lombardi
                      Lee MacPhail
                      Effa Manley
                      Heinie Manush
                      Rube Marquard
                      Bill Mazeroski
                      Tommy McCarthy
                      Bill McGowan
                      Hank O’Day
                      Herb Pennock
                      Alex Pompez
                      Jim Rice
                      Sam Rice
                      Phil Rizzuto
                      Wilbert Robinson
                      Ray Schalk
                      Red Schoendienst
                      Ben Taylor
                      Joe Tinker
                      Lloyd Waner
                      Mickey Welch
                      Sol White
                      Tom Yawkey
                      Ross Youngs
                      "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                      "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                      "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                      "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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                      • BBFHoF vs. the Hall of Merit

                        The Baseball Fever Hall of Fame has 339 members. The Hall of Merit has 250.

                        Our eligibility rules are different. Discounting contributors (which the Hall of Merit does not consider), and players yet to debut on the BBWAA ballot, that removes 75 inductees from the BBFHoF for purposes of comparison, giving us 264 members to the Hall of Merit’s 250. Throw out 5 more (Chance, Comisky, Creighton, McKechnie, O’Neil) whom we elected as contributors and that puts us at 259 to 250.

                        Further consider that 8 of our contributor inductees were elected to the Hall of Merit solely as players and the balance looks more like 251 to 250, almost exactly the same. Overall, roughly one-fifth of Baseball Fever’s enshrined were honored on the basis of their non-playing contributors, while the Hall of Merit does not recognize such contributions in their voting.

                        There are 232 individuals who have been inducted into both the Hall of Merit and the BBFHoF.

                        107 BBFHoF Inductees the Hall of Merit Should Consider
                        Code:
                        Doc Adams
                        Mel Allen
                        Walter Alston
                        Sparky Anderson
                        Luis Aparicio
                        Red Barber
                        Sy Barger
                        Ed Barrow
                        Albert Belle
                        Akira Bessho
                        Ed Bolden
                        Lou Brock
                        Alexander Cartwright
                        Orlando Cepeda
                        Perucho Cepeda
                        Henry Chadwick
                        Frank Chance
                        Charlie Comiskey
                        Charles Conlon
                        Tom Connolly
                        Wilbur Cooper
                        Bobby Cox
                        Jim Creighton
                        Ray Dandridge
                        Dizzy Dean
                        Larry Doyle
                        Hugh Duffy
                        Jack Dunn
                        Leo Durocher
                        Pat Gillick
                        Tom Glavine
                        Ken Griffey Jr.
                        Burleigh Grimes
                        Vladimir Guerrero
                        Ned Hanlon
                        Isao Harimoto
                        Ernie Harwell
                        Whitey Herzog
                        Miller Huggins
                        William Hulbert
                        Kazuhisa Inao
                        Bill James
                        Ban Johnson
                        Randy Johnson
                        Masaichi Kaneda
                        Jeff Kent
                        Bill Klem
                        Kenesaw M. Landis
                        Tony LaRussa
                        Tommy Lasorda
                        Al Lopez
                        Connie Mack
                        Larry MacPhail
                        Greg Maddux
                        Rabbit Maranville
                        Pedro Martinez
                        Carl Mays
                        Joe McCarthy
                        Fred McGriff
                        Bill McKechnie
                        Marvin Miller
                        Tony Mullane
                        Dale Murphy
                        Mike Mussina
                        Shigeo Nagashima
                        Katsuya Nomura
                        Lefty O’Doul
                        Sadaharu Oh
                        Walter O’Malley
                        Buck O’Neil
                        Dave Parker
                        Tony Perez
                        Cum Posey
                        Kirby Puckett
                        Dan Quisenberry
                        Manny Ramirez
                        Al Reach
                        Dick Redding
                        Francis Richter
                        Branch Rickey
                        Ivan Rodriguez
                        Jacob Ruppert
                        Curt Schilling
                        Vin Scully
                        Frank Selee
                        Matsutaro Shoriki
                        Hilton Smith
                        John Smoltz
                        Billy Southworth
                        J.G. Taylor Spink
                        Victor Starffin
                        Casey Stengel
                        C.I. Taylor
                        Frank Thomas
                        Pie Traynor
                        Kazuto Tsuruoka
                        George Van Haltren
                        Bill Veeck
                        Earl Weaver
                        George Weiss
                        J.L. Wilkinson
                        Dick Williams
                        Vic Willis
                        Hack Wilson
                        Harry Wright
                        18 Hall of Meriters We Might Reconsider
                        Code:
                        Kevin Brown
                        Pete Browning
                        David Cone
                        Dwight Evans
                        Charley Jones
                        Charlie Keller
                        Dick Lundy
                        Rafael Palmeiro
                        Billy Pierce
                        Lip Pike
                        Willie Randolph
                        Rick Reuschel
                        Bret Saberhagen
                        Jimmy Sheckard
                        Reggie Smith
                        Dave Stieb
                        Quincy Trouppe
                        Jimmy Wynn
                        "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                        "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                        "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                        "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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                        • BBFHoF vs. Cooperstown vs. the Hall of Merit

                          The Baseball Fever Hall of Fame has 339 members. Cooperstown has 300. The Hall of Merit has 250.

                          Our eligibility rules are different. Discounting contributors (which the Hall of Merit does not consider), and players yet to debut on the BBWAA ballot, that removes 75 inductees from the BBFHoF for purposes of comparison, giving us 264 members to the Hall of Merit’s 250. Throw out 5 more (Chance, Comisky, Creighton, McKechnie, O’Neil) whom we elected as contributors and that puts us at 259 to 250.

                          Further consider that 8 of our contributor inductees were elected to the Hall of Merit solely as players and the balance looks more like 251 to 250, almost exactly the same. Overall, roughly one-fifth of Baseball Fever’s enshrined were honored on the basis of their non-playing contributors, while the Hall of Merit does not recognize such contributions in their voting.

                          There are 232 individuals who have been inducted into both the Hall of Merit and the BBFHoF.

                          186 Inducted by All Three
                          Code:
                          Hank Aaron
                          Pete Alexander
                          Roberto Alomar
                          Cap Anson
                          Luke Appling
                          Richie Ashburn
                          Earl Averill
                          Frank Baker
                          Jake Beckley
                          Cool Papa Bell
                          Johnny Bench
                          Yogi Berra
                          Bert Blyleven
                          Wade Boggs
                          Lou Boudreau
                          Roger Bresnahan
                          George Brett
                          Dan Brouthers
                          Mordecai Brown
                          Ray Brown
                          Willard Brown
                          Jim Bunning
                          Jesse Burkett
                          Roy Campanella
                          Rod Carew
                          Max Carey
                          Steve Carlton
                          Gary Carter
                          Oscar Charleston
                          Fred Clarke
                          John Clarkson
                          Roberto Clemente
                          Ty Cobb
                          Mickey Cochrane
                          Eddie Collins
                          Jimmy Collins
                          Roger Connor
                          Stan Coveleski
                          Sam Crawford
                          Joe Cronin
                          George Davis
                          Andre Dawson
                          Ed Delahanty
                          Bill Dickey
                          Martin Dihigo
                          Joe DiMaggio
                          Larry Doby
                          Bobby Doerr
                          Don Drysdale
                          Dennis Eckersley
                          Buck Ewing
                          Red Faber
                          Bob Feller
                          Rollie Fingers
                          Carlton Fisk
                          Elmer Flick
                          Whitey Ford
                          Bill Foster
                          Rube Foster
                          Nellie Fox
                          Jimmie Foxx
                          Frankie Frisch
                          Pud Galvin
                          Lou Gehrig
                          Charlie Gehringer
                          Bob Gibson
                          Josh Gibson
                          Joe Gordon
                          Goose Goslin
                          Goose Gossage
                          Frank Grant
                          Hank Greenberg
                          Clark Griffith
                          Lefty Grove
                          Tony Gwynn
                          Billy Hamilton
                          Gabby Hartnett
                          Harry Heilmann
                          Rickey Henderson
                          Billy Herman
                          Pete Hill
                          Rogers Hornsby
                          Carl Hubbell
                          Monte Irvin
                          Reggie Jackson
                          Fergie Jenkins
                          Hughie Jennings
                          Walter Johnson
                          Al Kaline
                          Tim Keefe
                          Willie Keeler
                          Joe Kelley
                          King Kelly
                          Harmon Killebrew
                          Ralph Kiner
                          Sandy Koufax
                          Nap Lajoie
                          Barry Larkin
                          Bob Lemon
                          Buck Leonard
                          Pop Lloyd
                          Ted Lyons
                          Biz Mackey
                          Mickey Mantle
                          Juan Marichal
                          Eddie Mathews
                          Christy Mathewson
                          Willie Mays
                          Willie McCovey
                          Joe McGinnity
                          John McGraw
                          Bid McPhee
                          Joe Medwick
                          Jose Mendez
                          Johnny Mize
                          Paul Molitor
                          Joe Morgan
                          Eddie Murray
                          Stan Musial
                          Hal Newhouser
                          Kid Nichols
                          Phil Niekro
                          Jim O'Rourke
                          Mel Ott
                          Satchel Paige
                          Jim Palmer
                          Gaylord Perry
                          Eddie Plank
                          Charley Radbourn
                          Pee Wee Reese
                          Cal Ripken
                          Eppa Rixey
                          Robin Roberts
                          Brooks Robinson
                          Frank Robinson
                          Jackie Robinson
                          Bullet Rogan
                          Edd Roush
                          Red Ruffing
                          Amos Rusie
                          Babe Ruth
                          Nolan Ryan
                          Ryne Sandberg
                          Ron Santo
                          Louis Santop
                          Mike Schmidt
                          Tom Seaver
                          Joe Sewell
                          Al Simmons
                          George Sisler
                          Enos Slaughter
                          Ozzie Smith
                          Duke Snider
                          Warren Spahn
                          Al Spalding
                          Tris Speaker
                          Willie Stargell
                          Turkey Stearnes
                          Mule Suttles
                          Don Sutton
                          Bill Terry
                          Sam Thompson
                          Cristobal Torriente
                          Dazzy Vance
                          Arky Vaughan
                          Rube Waddell
                          Honus Wagner
                          Bobby Wallace
                          Ed Walsh
                          Paul Waner
                          John Montgomery Ward
                          Willie Wells
                          Zach Wheat
                          Deacon White
                          Hoyt Wilhelm
                          Billy Williams
                          Smokey Joe Williams
                          Ted Williams
                          Jud Wilson
                          Dave Winfield
                          George Wright
                          Early Wynn
                          Carl Yastrzemski
                          Cy Young
                          Robin Yount
                          27 Inducted by BBF and the Hall of Merit
                          Code:
                          Dick Allen
                          Charlie Bennett
                          Ken Boyer
                          Bob Caruthers
                          Cupid Childs
                          Will Clark
                          Bill Dahlen
                          Darrell Evans
                          Wes Ferrell
                          Bill Freehan
                          Jack Glasscock
                          George Gore
                          Bobby Grich
                          Heinie Groh
                          Stan Hack
                          Keith Hernandez
                          Paul Hines
                          Sherry Magee
                          Minnie Minoso
                          Graig Nettles
                          Dickey Pearce
                          Hardy Richardson
                          Ted Simmons
                          Joe Start
                          Harry Stovey
                          Ezra Sutton
                          Lou Whitaker
                          51 Exclusive to BBF and Cooperstown
                          Code:
                          Walter Alston
                          Sparky Anderson
                          Luis Aparicio
                          Ed Barrow
                          Lou Brock
                          Alexander Cartwright
                          Orlando Cepeda
                          Henry Chadwick
                          Frank Chance
                          Charlie Comiskey
                          Tom Connolly
                          Ray Dandridge
                          Dizzy Dean
                          Hugh Duffy
                          Leo Durocher
                          Pat Gillick
                          Burleigh Grimes
                          Ned Hanlon
                          Whitey Herzog
                          Miller Huggins
                          William Hulbert
                          Ban Johnson
                          Bill Klem
                          Kenesaw Mountain Landis
                          Tommy Lasorda
                          Al Lopez
                          Connie Mack
                          Larry MacPhail
                          Rabbit Maranville
                          Joe McCarthy
                          Bill McKechnie
                          Walter O'Malley
                          Tony Perez
                          Cum Posey
                          Kirby Puckett
                          Branch Rickey
                          Jacob Ruppert
                          Frank Selee
                          Hilton Smith
                          Billy Southworth
                          Casey Stengel
                          Bruce Sutter
                          Pie Traynor
                          Bill Veeck
                          Earl Weaver
                          George Weiss
                          J.L. Wilkinson
                          Dick Williams
                          Vic Willis
                          Hack Wilson
                          Harry Wright
                          Cooperstown and the Hall of Merit Working Together?
                          Code:
                          No shared picks that haven't also been inducted by BBF.
                          38 Unique to BBF
                          Code:
                          Mel Allen
                          Red Barber
                          Akira Bessho
                          Ed Bolden
                          Perucho Cepeda
                          Bobby Cox
                          Tom Glavine
                          Ken Griffey Jr.
                          Vladimir Guerrero
                          Isao Harimoto
                          Ernie Harwell
                          Kazuhisa Inao
                          Bill James
                          Randy Johnson
                          Masaichi Kawakami
                          Jeff Kent
                          Tony LaRussa
                          Greg Maddux
                          Pedro Martinez
                          Fred McGriff
                          Mike Mussina
                          Shigeo Nagashima
                          Katsuya Nomura
                          Sadaharu Oh
                          Manny Ramirez
                          Dick Redding
                          Francis Richter
                          Ivan Rodriguez
                          Curt Schilling
                          Vin Scully
                          Matsutaro Shoriki
                          John Smoltz
                          J.G. Taylor Spink
                          Victor Starffin
                          C.I. Taylor
                          Frank Thomas
                          Kazuto Tsuruoka
                          18 Unique to the Hall of Merit
                          Code:
                          Kevin Brown
                          Pete Browning
                          David Cone
                          Dwight Evans
                          Charley Jones
                          Charlie Keller
                          Dick Lundy
                          Rafael Palmeiro
                          Billy Pierce
                          Lip Pike
                          Willie Randolph
                          Rick Reuschel
                          Bret Saberhagen
                          Jimmy Sheckard
                          Reggie Smith
                          Dave Stieb
                          Quincy Trouppe
                          Jimmy Wynn
                          63 Unique to Cooperstown
                          Code:
                          Dave Bancroft
                          Al Barlick
                          Chief Bender
                          Jim Bottomley
                          Morgan Bulkeley
                          Happy Chandler
                          Jack Chesbro
                          Nestor Chylak
                          Earle Combs
                          Jocko Conlan
                          Andy Cooper
                          Candy Cummings
                          Kiki Cuyler
                          Leon Day
                          Barney Dreyfuss
                          Billy Evans
                          Johnny Evers
                          Rick Ferrell
                          Ford Frick
                          Warren Giles
                          Lefty Gomez
                          Chick Hafey
                          Jesse Haines
                          Will Harridge
                          Bucky Harris
                          Doug Harvey
                          Harry Hooper
                          Waite Hoyt
                          Cal Hubbard
                          Catfish Hunter
                          Travis Jackson
                          Judy Johnson
                          Addie Joss
                          George Kell
                          George Kelly
                          Chuck Klein
                          Bowie Kuhn
                          Tony Lazzeri
                          Freddie Lindstrom
                          Ernie Lombardi
                          Lee MacPhail
                          Effa Manley
                          Heinie Manush
                          Rube Marquard
                          Bill Mazeroski
                          Tommy McCarthy
                          Bill McGowan
                          Hank O'Day
                          Herb Pennock
                          Alex Pompez
                          Jim Rice
                          Sam Rice
                          Phil Rizzuto
                          Wilbert Robinson
                          Ray Schalk
                          Red Schoendienst
                          Ben Taylor
                          Joe Tinker
                          Lloyd Waner
                          Mickey Welch
                          Sol White
                          Tom Yawkey
                          Ross Youngs
                          "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                          "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                          "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                          "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

                          Comment


                          • Holdovers, Last 3 Elections

                            All vote totals are cumulative.

                            2010-2012 Players Elections
                            Code:
                            32  Gary Sheffield
                            31  Rafael Palmeiro
                            31  Sammy Sosa
                            30  Dwight Evans
                            25  Bobby Bonds
                            25  Jimmy Wynn
                            24  Billy Pierce
                            23  Kevin Brown
                            22  Quincy Trouppe
                            21  Pete Browning
                            20  Sal Bando
                            20  Jim Edmonds
                            19  Trevor Hoffman
                            19  Lip Pike
                            18  Addie Joss
                            16  Phil Rizzuto
                            15  Tommy Leach
                            15  Hiromitsu Ochiai
                            15  Jimmy Sheckard
                            15  Reggie Smith
                            14  Sam Rice
                            14  Lee Smith
                            14  Mickey Welch
                            13  Bob Johnson
                            13  Charlie Keller
                            13  Jim Rice
                            12  Tony Oliva
                            12  Jimmy Ryan
                            12  Vern Stephens
                            12  Bucky Walters
                            11  Luis Tiant
                            10  Wally Berger
                            10  Kiki Cuyler
                            10  Chuck Klein
                            10  Dave Stieb
                            9  Leon Day
                            9  Charley Jones
                            9  Thurman Munson
                            8  Buddy Bell
                            8  David Cone
                            8  Lefty Gomez
                            8  Masaaki Koyama
                            8  Ernie Lombardi
                            8  Heinie Manush
                            8  Jim McCormick
                            8  Rick Reuschel
                            8  Billy Wagner
                            7  Gavy Cravath
                            7  Bob Elliott
                            6  Bernie Williams
                            5  Catfish Hunter
                            5  Tommy John
                            5  Kenny Lofton
                            5  Dick Lundy
                            5  Willie Randolph
                            5  Al Rosen
                            4  Dave Bancroft
                            4  Bus Clarkson
                            4  Yutaka Enatsu
                            4  Omar Linares
                            4  Don Newcombe
                            4  Al Oliver
                            4  Bret Saberhagen
                            4  Chino Smith
                            3  Gil Hodges
                            3  John Olerud
                            3  Spotswood Poles
                            3  Jorge Posada
                            3  Rusty Staub
                            2  Chief Bender
                            2  Tommy Bridges
                            2  Bert Campaneris
                            2  Jose Canseco
                            2  Cesar Cedeno
                            2  Dave Concepcion
                            2  Willie Davis
                            2  Carlos Delgado
                            2  Johnny Evers
                            2  Julio Franco
                            2  Steve Garvey
                            2  Ron Guidry
                            2  Tony Lazzeri
                            2  Marty Marion
                            2  Jack Morris
                            2  Ned Williamson
                            1  Dick Bartell
                            1  Jim Bottomley
                            1  Charlie Buffinton
                            1  Pelayo Chacon
                            1  Jack Clark
                            1  Dom DiMaggio
                            1  Del Ennis
                            1  Juan Gonzalez
                            1  Luis Gonzalez
                            1  Dwight Gooden
                            1  Mel Harder
                            1  Dave Kingman
                            1  Herman Long
                            1  Oliver Marcelle
                            1  Miguel Tejada
                            1  Luis Tiant Sr.
                            1  Bobby Veach
                            1  Robin Ventura
                            2010-2012 Contributors Elections
                            Code:
                            21  Billy Martin
                            18  John Schuerholtz
                            17  George Steinbrenner
                            16  Vic Harris
                            14  Buck Canel
                            14  Ben Shibe
                            12  Harry Caray
                            11  Billy Evans
                            11  Doug Harvey
                            10  Buzzie Bavasi
                            10  Jack Buck
                            10  Bob Ferguson
                            9  Bob Davids
                            9  Shigeru Mizuhara
                            9  Danny Murtaugh
                            8  Cal Hubbard
                            7  Al Munro Elias
                            7  Davey Johnson
                            7  David Neft
                            7  Alfred H. Spink
                            6  Al Barlick
                            6  Nestor Chylak
                            6  Jocko Conlan
                            6  Paul Krichell
                            6  Ring Lardner
                            5  Ford Frick
                            5  Frank Jobe
                            5  Sol White
                            4  Happy Chandler
                            4  Red Smith
                            4  Frank Warfield
                            3  John B. Foster
                            3  Bud Fowler
                            3  Curt Gowdy
                            3  Bill McGowan
                            3  Lou Piniella
                            3  Grantland Rice
                            2  Nelson Algran
                            2  Jacques Doucet
                            2  Curt Flood
                            2  Johnny Pesky
                            1  Felipe Alou
                            1  Roger Angell
                            1  Jim Bouton
                            1  Jim Brosnan
                            1  Joe Cambria
                            1  Jerry Coleman
                            1  Charlie Finley
                            1  Gus Greenlee
                            1  Charlie Grimm
                            1  Mike Hargrove
                            1  Bob Howsam
                            1  Harry Kalas
                            Chadwick
                            Rolen on to Cooperstown
                            Last edited by Chadwick; 06-18-2013, 08:19 PM.
                            "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                            "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                            "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                            "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

                            Comment


                            • Newly Eligible* for 2014 Election
                              *Subject to change as the season progresses


                              Newly Eligible
                              Bobby Abreu
                              Johnny Damon
                              Andruw Jones
                              Chipper Jones
                              Carlos Lee
                              Hideki Matsui
                              Jamie Moyer
                              Scott Rolen
                              Grady Sizemore
                              Jim Thome
                              Omar Vizquel



                              Although the following have not appeared in an MLB game in 2013, the players below are NOT eligible for consideration. (Anyone playing in 2013 is not eligible.)

                              Chris Carpenter
                              Derek Jeter
                              Alex Rodriguez
                              Johan Santana
                              Chadwick
                              Rolen on to Cooperstown
                              Last edited by Chadwick; 06-23-2013, 10:24 AM.
                              "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                              "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                              "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                              "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

                              Comment


                              • Top 100*, Career WAR, Eligible Players
                                *Does not include non-MLB players

                                Code:
                                85.2 Chipper Jones
                                75.8 Jim McCormick
                                72.8 Jim Thome
                                71.8 Rafael Palmeiro
                                70.1 Rick Reuschel
                                70.0 Scott Rolen
                                68.3 Kevin Brown
                                68.1 Kenny Lofton
                                66.7 Luis Tiant
                                66.7 Dwight Evans
                                65.9 Buddy Bell
                                65.6 Willie Randolph
                                64.4 Reggie Smith
                                63.1 Mickey Welch
                                62.7 Andruw Jones
                                62.5 David Cone
                                62.2 Charlie Buffinton
                                62.0 Tommy John
                                61.6 Sal Bando
                                61.0 Tommy Bond
                                60.7 Willie Davis
                                60.4 Bobby Abreu
                                60.4 Gary Sheffield
                                60.3 Jim Edmonds
                                59.2 Bret Saberhagen
                                58.7 Urban Shocker
                                58.4 Sammy Sosa
                                58.4 Chuck Finley
                                58.1 Jack Quinn
                                58.0 Eddie Cicotte
                                58.0 John Olerud
                                57.9 Frank Tanana
                                57.6 Bobby Bonds
                                57.2 Dave Stieb
                                57.1 Bob Johnson
                                56.8 Orel Hershiser
                                56.8 Jack Powell
                                56.3 Johnny Damon
                                56.0 George Uhle
                                55.9 Robin Ventura
                                55.7 Jim Whitney
                                55.7 Jimmy Wynn
                                55.3 Chet Lemon
                                55.0 Bobby Mathews
                                54.9 Kevin Appier
                                54.3 Jose Cruz
                                54.2 Vada Pinson
                                54.2 Bucky Walters
                                53.9 Jerry Koosman
                                53.6 David Wells
                                53.6 Harry Hooper
                                53.3 Billy Pierce
                                53.3 Ron Cey
                                53.3 Joe Tinker
                                53.2 Bert Campaneris
                                53.1 Dwight Gooden
                                52.9 Jack Clark
                                52.9 Sam Rice
                                52.7 Al Orth
                                52.6 Cesar Cedeno
                                52.2 Larry Jackson
                                52.1 Norm Cash
                                52.0 Babe Adams
                                51.9 Silver King
                                51.8 Waite Hoyt
                                51.5 Luis Gonzalez
                                51.5 Ted Breitenstein
                                51.4 Kenny Rogers
                                51.4 Jim Kaat
                                51.4 Brian Downing
                                51.2 Toby Harrah
                                51.1 Tommy Bridges
                                50.9 Jack Stivetts
                                50.8 Brian Giles
                                50.8 Tony Phillips
                                50.7 Mark Langston
                                50.7 Bob Elliott
                                50.6 Dizzy Trout
                                50.4 Jamie Moyer
                                50.2 Wilbur Wood
                                50.0 Eddie Rommel
                                50.0 Tony Lazzeri
                                49.9 Fred Lynn
                                49.6 Jimmy Key
                                49.5 Chief Bender
                                49.5 Bernie Williams
                                49.5 Ellis Burks
                                49.5 Jimmy Sheckard
                                49.5 Brett Butler
                                49.3 Dennis Martinez
                                49.1 Mickey Lolich
                                48.7 Jim Fregosi
                                48.7 Jesse Tannehill
                                48.6 (Emil) Dutch Leonard
                                48.5 Dave Bancroft
                                48.5 Doc White
                                48.2 Larry Gardner
                                48.2 Bobo Newsom
                                48.0 Ron Guidry
                                48.0 Nap Rucker
                                NOTE: This is not a list of the "top" candidates. This is only a list of career value, as measured by WAR. The intent is solely to provide a list of some - but certainly not the only, nor even the best - candidates for your perusal.
                                "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                                "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                                "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                                "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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