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  • Originally posted by willshad View Post
    I see Wright as kind of a half of a George Brett. If we cut Brett off after 1984 or so, he looks very similar to Wright through age 30....of course Brett has the MVP and good postseason stats. Would Brett have been a HOFer if his career had ended after 1984?
    At worst he'd be awfully close, kind of like Wright. A pretty good comparison, nicely done.

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    • Originally posted by willshad View Post
      I see Wright as kind of a half of a George Brett. If we cut Brett off after 1984 or so, he looks very similar to Wright through age 30....of course Brett has the MVP and good postseason stats. Would Brett have been a HOFer if his career had ended after 1984?
      That MVP helps a lot, of course. But even ignoring that, yeah, Brett still should be a HOFer if his career ended after 1984.

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      • Brett had iconic status that Wright never did.

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        • Originally posted by PVNICK View Post
          Brett had iconic status that Wright never did.
          wasn't that mainly due to his 1980 season?

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          • Originally posted by willshad View Post
            I see Wright as kind of a half of a George Brett. If we cut Brett off after 1984 or so, he looks very similar to Wright through age 30....of course Brett has the MVP and good postseason stats. Would Brett have been a HOFer if his career had ended after 1984?
            Probably not, but he would have had a much better case than Wright has now. Nevermind the MVP that he won, by that time Brett had won 2 batting titles, led the league in hits 3x, doubles 1x, triples 3x, SLG% 2x...Wright never once led the league in a major category.
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            • Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post

              Probably not, but he would have had a much better case than Wright has now. Nevermind the MVP that he won, by that time Brett had won 2 batting titles, led the league in hits 3x, doubles 1x, triples 3x, SLG% 2x...Wright never once led the league in a major category.
              Yeah true. I do consider Wright the MVP in 2007 even though he technically didn't win the award.

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              • Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post

                Nevermind the MVP that he won, by that time Brett had won 2 batting titles, led the league in hits 3x, doubles 1x, triples 3x, SLG% 2x...Wright never once led the league in a major category.
                Brett was also a 9x consecutive All Star by that point. He was chosen as the starter in 8 of them. For some reason, Brett was not the starting AL 3B in 1980, Nettles was.
                Brett had also received 1st place votes for MVP in 1976, 1979, and obviously 1980.

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                • Originally posted by dgarza View Post
                  Brett was also a 9x consecutive All Star by that point. He was chosen as the starter in 8 of them. For some reason, Brett was not the starting AL 3B in 1980, Nettles was.
                  Brett had also received 1st place votes for MVP in 1976, 1979, and obviously 1980.
                  Wasn't he hurt at that point in 1980?

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                  • Originally posted by willshad View Post

                    Wasn't he hurt at that point in 1980?
                    You're probably right. That would match up with his game logs, which has a gap between June 10 and July 10. I wonder if Brett received more All Star votes, even though Nettles started.

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                    • Originally posted by willshad View Post

                      wasn't that mainly due to his 1980 season?
                      No, Brett had iconic status before 1980. Brett was a LEGEND for destroying the Yankees in the postseason in 1976-78 with his bat and his fists. Haha









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                      • I ran my ranking numbers and Brett 1973-1984 would have been as much a HOFer in my eyes as Brooks Robinson was for his entire career.

                        Through their first 12 seasons, Brett is 5th for 3B in WAR behind Mathews, Schmidt, Boggs, and Santo; and 4th in WAA behind Mathews, Schmidt, and Boggs.

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                        • Originally posted by dgarza View Post
                          I ran my ranking numbers and Brett 1973-1984 would have been as much a HOFer in my eyes as Brooks Robinson was for his entire career.

                          Through their first 12 seasons, Brett is 5th for 3B in WAR behind Mathews, Schmidt, Boggs, and Santo; and 4th in WAA behind Mathews, Schmidt, and Boggs.
                          And from 1985-90 Brett still hit like a Hall of Fame third baseman, .307/.395/.506, 147 OPS+.
                          Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                          • Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post

                            And from 1985-90 Brett still hit like a Hall of Fame third baseman, .307/.395/.506, 147 OPS+.
                            If I was starting an Astroturf team, he'd be on it somewhere. He was a monster on Astroturf, check out his stats on the fake grass!
                            On one hand, the White Sox had to forfeit a game. On the other hand, disco was finally killed off. So overall, it was a win.

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                            • Originally posted by Toledo Inquisition View Post

                              If I was starting an Astroturf team, he'd be on it somewhere. He was a monster on Astroturf, check out his stats on the fake grass!
                              Fellow BBFer, brett, has posted extensively about George Brett's Astroturf hitting. Apparently, in the 1970's the Royals had a team wide strategy of hitting ground balls through the gaps and run around the bases. They were highly successful doing that at home but not so much on grass fields. Perhaps brett can repost his data.
                              Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                              • Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post

                                No, Brett had iconic status before 1980. Brett was a LEGEND for destroying the Yankees in the postseason in 1976-78 with his bat and his fists. Haha








                                He destroyed the Yankees? Not quite. They won all three series.

                                WAR looks like it overrates Brett in the field and on the bases..I'm not sure he was better than Wright in either area through age 30 or 31.

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