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Originally posted by Outta Here
There's no need 2 ask, he's a no-brainer. But I dont think he'll get that many HRs coz of injuries. My prediction is 649 
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Do you mean 659, one behind Mays? (I take it the winky-face has some significance?)
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Ken Griffey Jr (2009 edition)
It has been about 3 years since the last series of potential HOFer polls I ran. Thought I would do another series of polls. Below is a list of the players stats to date. Unlike the last series of polls I'm not going to list any career projections.
Ken Griffey Jr at age 38
2521 games
9315 at-bats
1612 runs
2680 hits
503 doubles
38 triples
611 home runs
1772 RBI
184 stolen bases
1240 BB
.288 AVG
.373 OBP
.547 SLG
138 OPS+
5092 total bases
10742 PA's
1934 runs created
7.4 RC/G
.673 OWP
516.2 batting runs
47.9 batting wins
26 black ink
162 gray ink
235 HOF standards
61 HOF monitor
.309 EQA
96.8 WARP1
104.4 WARP3
937 BRAR
627 BRAA
327 FRAR
-56 FRAA
406 win sharesMy dream ballpark dimensions
LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
Location....San DiegoComment
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Previous poll results: 75 Yes, 1 NoMy dream ballpark dimensions
LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
Location....San DiegoComment
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Anyone that votes "no" will get a serious BBF beat down!
Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 04-05-2009, 10:19 PM.Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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Like Billy Batts in Goodfellas.3 6 10 21 29 31 35 41 42 44 47Comment
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You promise? There is always at least one!Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View PostAnyone that votes "no" wil get a serious BBF beat down!My dream ballpark dimensions
LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
Location....San DiegoComment
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There is no way he won't be in the Hall Of Fame.Comment
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The only way Griffey misses the Hall is if PED usage is discovered."It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
"I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
"You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
"There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe
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I was thinking more along the lines of a blanket party like in Full Metal Jacket.Originally posted by Los Bravos View PostsigpicComment
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I'm amazed the degree to which Griffey has faded this decade.Originally posted by julusnc View Post
Griffey's career is an Ernie Banks career; a stellar 1st half, coupled with a just-hanging-on 2nd half. People have really forgotten how great Griffey was in his best Seattle years."I do not care if half the league strikes. Those who do it will encounter quick retribution. All will be suspended and I don't care if it wrecks the National League for five years. This is the United States of America and one citizen has as much right to play as another. The National League will go down the line with Robinson whatever the consequences. You will find if you go through with your intention that you have been guilty of complete madness."
NL President Ford Frick, 1947Comment
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What I find interesting about Griffey's career is that he rarely lead the league in any offensive categories. He did led the AL in home runs four times which a great total. But other than that he led the in RBI's one time, in runs one time, in slugging one time, and in total bases just twice.Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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Deservedly so!Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View PostAnyone that votes "no" will get a serious BBF beat down!Comment
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Highest OPS+, 1300+ games in CF and 7000+ PA
EDIT: This list will be revised when BB-Ref fixes the play index. Richie Ashburn and Willie Davis and, I assume, others didn't appear in the query results.Code:Player OPS+ BA OBP SLG SB PA From To 1 Mickey Mantle 172 0.298 0.421 0.557 153 9909 1951 1968 2 Ty Cobb 167 0.366 0.433 0.512 892 13072 1905 1928 3 Tris Speaker 158 0.345 0.428 0.500 432 11988 1907 1928 4 Willie Mays 156 0.302 0.384 0.557 338 12493 1951 1973 5 Joe DiMaggio 155 0.325 0.398 0.579 30 7671 1936 1951 6 Duke Snider 140 0.295 0.380 0.540 99 8237 1947 1964 7 Ken Griffey 138 0.288 0.373 0.547 184 10742 1989 2008 8 Earl Averill 133 0.318 0.395 0.534 70 7215 1929 1941 9 Jim Edmonds 132 0.284 0.377 0.528 65 7708 1993 2008 10 Paul Hines 131 0.302 0.340 0.409 163 7470 1872 1891 11 Fred Lynn 129 0.283 0.360 0.484 72 7923 1974 1990 12 Edd Roush 126 0.323 0.369 0.446 268 8156 1913 1931 13 Bernie Williams 125 0.297 0.381 0.477 147 9053 1991 2006 14 Cy Williams 125 0.292 0.365 0.470 115 7720 1912 1930 15 Kirby Puckett 124 0.318 0.360 0.477 134 7831 1984 1995 16 Cesar Cedeno 123 0.285 0.347 0.443 550 8133 1970 1986 17 G. Van Haltren 121 0.316 0.385 0.417 583 8979 1887 1903 18 Chet Lemon 120 0.273 0.355 0.442 58 7872 1975 1990 19 Amos Otis 114 0.277 0.343 0.425 341 8246 1967 1984 20 Andruw Jones 111 0.259 0.339 0.489 138 7514 1996 2008 21 Richie Ashburn 111 0.308 0.396 0.382 234 9736 1948 1962
EDIT2: I put together a better list.Last edited by Freakshow; 04-06-2009, 01:06 PM.Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.
Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.Comment
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Yeah, and maybe it will add guys like Mays, Mantle, and Snider? Maybe, just maybe, they belong on this list.Originally posted by Freakshow View Post
Mantle 172 career OPS+
Mays 156 career OPS+
Snider 140 career OPS+
That moves Junior down to the number 7 spot. Hack Wilson is also ahead of him at 144, but he was just under the 1300 game cutoff.Comment
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