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  • #16
    1) Ruth, Babe
    2) Williams, Ted
    3) Wagner, Honus
    4) Cobb, Ty
    5) Mays, Willie
    6) Johnson, Walter
    7) Gibson, Josh
    8) Speaker, Tris
    9) Mantle, Mickey
    10) Young, Cy
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    • #17
      1. Babe Ruth - 10
      2. Ty Cobb - 9
      3. Willie Mays - 8
      4. Ted Williams - 7
      5. Stan Musial - 6
      6. Mickey Mantle - 5
      7. Lou Gehrig - 4
      8. Hank Aaron - 3
      9. Honus Wagner - 2
      10. Walter Johnson - 1
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      • #18
        Babe Ruth...no question
        Willie Mays
        Ty Cobb
        Ted Williams
        Hank Aaron
        Walter Johnson
        Lou Gehrig
        Honus Wagner
        Cy Young
        Stan Musial
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        "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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        • #19
          Very interesting -a little different than the 10 best.

          1. Babe Ruth
          2. Willie Mays
          3. Ted Williams
          4. Jackie Robinson
          5. Ty Cobb
          6. Honus Wagner
          7. Cy Young
          8. Hank Aaron
          9. Lou Gehrig
          10. Walter Johnson

          I feel bad that Musial's not in my top 10- he's my next guy. It was a tough decision among him, Gehrig, and Walter Johnson- all iconic figures.
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          Last edited by BigRon; 08-07-2011, 02:20 PM.

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          • #20
            1) Babe Ruth - 10 points
            2) Jackie Robinson - 9 points
            3) Willie Mays - 8 points
            4) Hank Aaron - 7 points
            5) Ted Williams - 6 points
            6) Ty Cobb - 5 points
            7) Honus Wagner - 4 points
            8) Walter Johnson - 3 points
            9) Cy Young - 2 points
            10) Stan Musial - 1 point
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            • #21
              1. Babe Ruth - 10
              2. Jackie Robinson - 9
              3. Roberto Clemente - 8
              4. Willie Mays - 7
              5. Cap Anson - 6
              6. John Montgomery Ward - 5
              7. Mike Kelly - 4
              8. Ty Cobb - 3
              9. Ted Williams - 2
              10. Cal Ripken Jr. - 1
              "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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              • #22
                1. Babe Ruth
                2. Willie Mays
                3. Ty Cobb
                4. Honus Wagner
                5. Ted Williams
                6. Mickey Mantle
                7. Josh Gibson
                8. Walter Johnson
                9. Hank Aaron
                10. Roger Hornsby
                "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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                • #23
                  1. Babe Ruth
                  2. Hank Aaron
                  3. Willie Mays
                  4. Frank Robinson
                  5. Ty Cobb
                  6. Ted Williams
                  7. Walter Johnson
                  8. Honus Wagner
                  9. Jackie Robinson
                  10. Lou Gehrig

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                  • #24
                    This is not a lobbying effort, but I must say I'm a little surprised by the extremely high rankings Clemente is getting from some. A great player and a tragic death- yes. But that those aren't sufficient to elevate him to the highest level, in my opinion. Clemente wasn't even the first outstanding Latin MLer- Minoso was, and even Aparicio- a very different type of player- was winning accolades before Clemente. Clemente didn't cause the explosion of Latin American talent- it was there all along.

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                    • #25
                      1) Babe Ruth - 10 points
                      2) Willie Mays - 9 points
                      3.) Ty Cobb - 8 points
                      4) Hank Aaron - 7 points
                      5) Ted Williams - 6 points
                      6) Jackie Robinson - 5 points
                      7) Honus Wagner - 4 points
                      8) Walter Johnson - 3 points
                      9) Cy Young - 2 points
                      10) Lou Gehrig - 1 point

                      Also hate leaving out Musial here.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BigRon View Post
                        This is not a lobbying effort, but I must say I'm a little surprised by the extremely high rankings Clemente is getting from some. A great player and a tragic death- yes. But that those aren't sufficient to elevate him to the highest level, in my opinion. Clemente wasn't even the first outstanding Latin MLer- Minoso was, and even Aparicio- a very different type of player- was winning accolades before Clemente. Clemente didn't cause the explosion of Latin American talent- it was there all along.
                        Adolfo Domingo de Guzmán Luque was the first outstanding Latin MLer. I don't think we're putting Clemente on here because he was the first outstanding Latin ballplayer. I believe it's a mixture of his quality, (as DX stated) his importance to a large segment of the population (wether wrongly perceived or not), and his tragic death. He is easily one of the most recognizable names in baseball history.
                        AL East Champions: 1981 1982
                        AL Pennant: 1982
                        NL Central Champions: 2011
                        NL Wild Card: 2008

                        "It was like coming this close to your dreams and then watching them brush past you like a stranger in a crowd. At the time you don't think much of it; you know, we just don't recognize the significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, 'Well, there'll be other days.' I didn't realize that that was the only day." - Moonlight Graham

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                        • #27
                          1) Babe Ruth
                          2) Willie Mays
                          3) Ty Cobb
                          4) Ted Williams
                          5) Honus Wagner
                          6) Walter Johnson
                          7) Hank Aaron
                          8) Stan Musial
                          9) Mickey Mantle
                          10) Oscar Charleston
                          Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.

                          Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.

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                          • #28
                            I like the format for this project, Mike. I have a couple ideas for tweaking the rules.

                            As the project progresses, ballots will become more fragmented. You should expand the size of the ballot as we go along, while still "electing" five each time. Here's a possible schedule.

                            1 to 40 players (first 8 elections): 10-player ballots
                            41 to 80 players (elections 9-16): 12-player ballots

                            You might consider pausing the project at this point (or sooner). The Veterans Committee "Golden Era" election will be held during this December's winter meetings. (Santo could finally make it in.) That will be followed about four weeks later by the BBWAA results. (Larkin, Morris and Bagwell are the leading candidates.) It also gives you a "holiday hiatus" when some voters may be busy.

                            81 to 120 players (elections 17-24): 14-player ballots
                            121 to 160 players (elections 25-32): 16-player ballots
                            161 to 200 players (elections 33-40): 18-player ballots
                            201 to 215 players (elections 41-43): 20-player ballots
                            216 to 234 players: rank the final 19
                            Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.

                            Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by The Dude View Post
                              Adolfo Domingo de Guzmán Luque was the first outstanding Latin MLer. I don't think we're putting Clemente on here because he was the first outstanding Latin ballplayer. I believe it's a mixture of his quality, (as DX stated) his importance to a large segment of the population (wether wrongly perceived or not), and his tragic death. He is easily one of the most recognizable names in baseball history.
                              You're right about Luque being an outstanding player. I also agree that Clemente has become one of the most recognizable names in baseball history, but I at least don't see that as a compelling reason to make him one of the 10 most "deserving" HOFers. But, as I said, I'm not really trying to lobby against Clemente- whom I followed/saw throughout his entire ML career- so I'll say no more on this.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BigRon View Post
                                You're right about Luque being an outstanding player. I also agree that Clemente has become one of the most recognizable names in baseball history, but I at least don't see that as a compelling reason to make him one of the 10 most "deserving" HOFers. But, as I said, I'm not really trying to lobby against Clemente- whom I followed/saw throughout his entire ML career- so I'll say no more on this.
                                If we were ranking a list of the most deserving based solely off who was the best, my top 10 would be completely different. However, as it says in the OP "subjective qualities beyond just statistics can be considered in determining a player's relative worthiness."
                                AL East Champions: 1981 1982
                                AL Pennant: 1982
                                NL Central Champions: 2011
                                NL Wild Card: 2008

                                "It was like coming this close to your dreams and then watching them brush past you like a stranger in a crowd. At the time you don't think much of it; you know, we just don't recognize the significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, 'Well, there'll be other days.' I didn't realize that that was the only day." - Moonlight Graham

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