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  • Ranking the HoF Players: 31-35

    Project Summary: To rank the worthiness of the players inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame from most worthy to least worthy.

    Election Format: Voters will submit ballots ranking their 10 most worthy remaining Hall of Fame players in order of worthiness. Each first place vote will be worth 10 points, with each successive rank being worth one point less than the previous rank, ending in a tenth place vote being worth 1 point. Players will also receive one additional point for each ballot they are listed on and players must be listed on at least three ballots in order to be elected. The five players with the highest support at the end of each election will be elected in the order of their support. Elections will last approximately seven days.
    - Tiebreakers: In the event of a tie among players at the end of an election, the first tiebreaker will be the total number of ballot appearance in that election. The second tiebreaker will be total number of points irrespective of number of ballots. The third tiebreaker will be the number first place votes in that election. In the event that there remains a tie for the fifth and final spot in an election, there will be a three day run-off by poll. Players that lose in a run-off will slot into the next ranking spot.

    Factors to Consider: As this project focuses on players inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame, subjective qualities beyond just statistics should be taken into consideration in determining a player's relative worthiness. In that vein, the voting guidelines that the BBWAA is to follow in actual National Baseball Hall of Fame elections, may be instructive (though not necessarily determinative in this project): "Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played."

    Player Eligibility: Only players that have been elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame as players are eligible, including Negro League players and 19th Century players. A complete list of individuals that have been inducted as players is available at the National Baseball Hall of Fame's website, and is recreated below along with each player's corresponding BBF Rank as determined by this project:

    Results
    1) Babe Ruth
    2) Willie Mays
    3) Ty Cobb
    4) Ted Williams
    5) Hank Aaron
    6) Honus Wagner
    7) Walter Johnson
    8) Lou Gehrig
    9) Cy Young
    10) Stan Musial
    11) Mickey Mantle
    12) Rogers Hornsby
    13) Jackie Robinson
    14) Tris Speaker
    15) Josh Gibson
    16) Eddie Collins
    17) Satchel Paige
    18) Grover Alexander
    19) Frank Robinson
    20) Joe DiMaggio
    21) Oscar Charleston
    22) Mike Schmidt
    23) Lefty Grove
    24) Tom Seaver
    25) Cap Anson
    26) Christy Mathewson
    27) Rickey Henderson
    28) Jimmie Foxx
    29) Nap Lajoie
    30) Joe Morgan

    Master List
    Code:
    Player				BBF Rank
    Hank Aaron			5
    Grover Alexander		18
    Roberto Alomar
    Cap Anson			25
    Luis Aparicio
    Luke Appling
    Richie Ashburn
    Earl Averill
    Frank Baker
    Dave Bancroft
    Ernie Banks
    Jake Beckley
    Cool Papa Bell
    Johnny Bench
    Chief Bender
    Yogi Berra
    Bert Blyleven
    Wade Boggs
    Jim Bottomley
    Lou Boudreau
    Roger Bresnahan
    George Brett
    Lou Brock
    Dan Brouthers
    Mordecai Brown
    Ray Brown
    Willard Brown
    Jim Bunning
    Jesse Burkett
    Roy Campanella
    Rod Carew
    Max Carey
    Steve Carlton
    Gary Carter
    Orlando Cepeda
    Frank Chance
    Oscar Charleston		21
    Jack Chesbro
    Fred Clarke
    John Clarkson
    Roberto Clemente
    Ty Cobb				3
    Mickey Cochrane
    Eddie Collins			16
    Jimmy Collins
    Earle Combs
    Roger Connor
    Andy Cooper
    Stan Coveleski
    Sam Crawford
    Jo Cronin
    Kiki Cuyler
    Ray Dandridge
    George Davis
    Andre Dawson
    Leon Day
    Dizzy Dean
    Ed Delahanty
    Bill Dickey
    Martin Dihigo	
    Joe DiMaggio			20
    Larry Doby
    Bobby Doerr
    Don Drysdale
    Hugh Duffy
    Dennis Eckersley
    Johnny Evers
    Buck Ewing
    Red Faber
    Bob Feller
    Rick Ferrell
    Rollie Fingers
    Carlton Fisk
    Elmer Flick
    Whitey Ford
    Bill Foster
    Nellie Fox
    Jimmie Foxx			28
    Frankie Frisch
    Pud Galvin
    Lou Gehrig			8
    Charlie Gehringer
    Bob Gibson
    Josh Gibson			15
    Lefty Gomez
    Joe Gordon
    Goose Goslin
    Rich Gossage
    Frank Grant
    Hank Greenberg
    Burleigh Grimes
    Lefty Grove			23
    Tony Gwynn
    Chick Hafey
    Jesse Haines
    Billy Hamilton
    Gabby Hartnett
    Harry Heilmann
    Rickey Henderson		27
    Billy Herman
    Pete Hill
    Harry Hooper
    Rogers Hornsby			12
    Waite Hoyt
    Carl Hubbell
    Catfish Hunter
    Monte Irvin
    Reggie Jackson
    Travis Jackson
    Ferguson Jenkins
    Hugh Jennings
    Judy Johnson
    Walter Johnson			7
    Addie Joss
    Al Kaline
    Tim Keefe
    Willie Keeler
    George Kell
    Joe Kelley
    George Kelly
    King Kelly
    Harmon Killebrew
    Ralph Kiner
    Chuck Klein
    Sandy Koufax
    Nap Lajoie			29
    Tony Lazzeri
    Bob Lemon
    Buck Leonard
    Freddie Lindstrom
    Pop Lloyd
    Ernie Lombard
    Ted Lyons
    Biz Mackey
    Mickey Mantle			11
    Heinie Manush
    Rabbit Maranville
    Juan Marichal
    Rube Marquard
    Eddie Mathews
    Christy Mathewson		26
    Willie Mays			2
    Bill Mazeroski
    Tommy McCarthy
    Willie McCovey
    Joe McGinnity
    Bid McPhee
    Joe Medwick
    Jose Mendez
    Johnny Mize
    Paul Molitor
    Joe Morgan			30
    Eddie Murray
    Stan Musial			10
    Hal Newhouser
    Kid Nichols
    Phil Niekro
    Jim O’Rourke
    Mel Ott
    Satchel Paige			17
    Jim Palmer
    Herb Pennock
    Tony Perez
    Gaylord Perry
    Eddie Plank
    Kirby Puckett
    Charles Radbourn
    Pee Wee Reese
    Jim Rice
    Sam Rice
    Cal Ripken
    Eppa Rixey
    Phil Rizzuto
    Robin Roberts
    Brooks Robinson
    Frank Robinson			19
    Jackie Robinson			13
    Bullet Rogan
    Edd Roush
    Red Ruffing
    Amos Rusie
    Babe Ruth			1
    Nolan Ryan
    Ryne Sandberg
    Louis Santop
    Ray Schalk
    Mike Schmidt			22
    Red Schoendienst
    Tom Seaver			24
    Joe Sewell
    Al Simmons
    George Sisler
    Enos Slaughter
    Hilton Smith
    Ozzie Smith
    Duke Snider
    Warren Spahn
    Tris Speaker			14
    Willie Stargell
    Turkey Stearnes
    Bruce Sutter
    Mule Suttles
    Don Sutton
    Ben Taylor
    Bill Terry
    Sam Thompson
    Joe Tinker
    Cristobal Torriente
    Pie Traynor
    Dazzy Vance
    Arky Vaughan
    Rube Waddell
    Honus Wagner			6
    Bobby Wallace
    Ed Walsh
    Lloyd Waner
    Paul Waner
    John Ward
    Mickey Welch
    Willie Wells
    Zack Wheat
    Hoyt Wilhelm
    Billy Williams
    Joe Williams
    Ted Williams			4
    Vic Willis
    Hack Wilson
    Jud Wilson
    Dave Winfield
    Early Wynn
    Carl Yastrzemski
    Cy Young			9
    Ross Youngs
    Robin Yount
    Links to Previous Elections
    Election 1-5
    Election 6-10
    Election 11-15
    Election 16-20
    Election 21- 25
    Election 26-30
    Last edited by DoubleX; 09-28-2011, 07:14 AM.

  • #2
    1) Roberto Clemente - 10
    2) Johnny Bench - 9
    3) Yogi Berra - 8
    4) Cal Ripken Jr - 7
    5) Warren Spahn - 6
    6) Mel Ott - 5
    7) Bob Feller - 4
    8) Kid Nichols - 3
    9) Pop Lloyd - 2
    10) Bob Gibson - 1

    Wish I had one additional space for - George Brett (last election it was Mel Ott)
    Last edited by DoubleX; 09-21-2011, 07:33 AM.

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    • #3
      1. Roberto Clemente - 10
      2. Hank Greenberg - 9
      3. Monte Ward - 8
      4. Johnny Bench - 7
      5. Cal Ripken, Jr. - 6
      6. Warren Spahn - 5
      7. Pop Lloyd - 4
      8. Bob Feller - 3
      9. Mel Ott - 2
      10. George Brett - 1

      Matthews is ranked higher as a 3B than Brett but Brett was a bit more of a top star such as it is.
      Kaline, Matthews, Smokey Joe Williams, Berra, Cochrane in some order

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      • #4
        1) Johnny Bench
        2) Berra
        3) Ripken
        4) Ward
        5) Spahn
        6) Lloyd
        7) Brett
        8) Feller
        9) Cochrane
        10) Williams

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        • #5
          Ballot:

          1. Yogi Berra
          2. King Kelly
          3. Johnny Bench
          4. Joe Williams
          5. Cal Ripken
          6. Kid Nichols
          7. Mel Ott
          8. George Brett
          9. Turkey Stearns
          10. Bob Gibson

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          • #6
            1 Mel Ott
            2 Pop Lloyd
            3 Johnny Bench
            4 Yogi Berra
            5 Cal Ripken
            6 Eddie Mathews
            7 Warren Spahn
            8 George Brett
            9 Dan Brouthers
            10 Arky Vaughan
            Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.

            Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.

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            • #7
              1. Mel Ott
              2. Warren Spahn
              3. Pop Lloyd
              4. George Brett
              5. Dan Brouthers
              6. Charlie Gehringer
              7. Wade Boggs
              8. Ed Delahanty
              9. Carl Yastrzemski
              10. Bullet Rogan

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              • #8
                1) Kid Nichols (10)
                2) Warren Spahn (9)
                3) George Brett (8)
                4) Cal Ripken, Jr. (7)
                5) John Clarkson (6)
                6) Jesse Burkett (5)
                7) Mel Ott (4)
                8) Johnny Bench (3)
                9) Tony Gwynn (2)
                10) Ed Delahanty (1)

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                • #9
                  1) Bench
                  4) Brett
                  3) Ott
                  4) Ripken
                  5) SJ Williams
                  6) Spahn
                  7) Lloyd
                  8) Berra
                  9) Gibson
                  10) Mathews

                  Followed closely by:
                  Vaughan
                  Koufax
                  Carlton
                  Feller
                  Kaline

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                  • #10
                    1. Mel Ott
                    2. Warren Spahn
                    3. Cal Ripken Jr
                    4. Roberto Clemente
                    5. Kid Nichols
                    6. George Brett
                    7. Eddie Mathews
                    8. Tim Keefe
                    9. John Clarkson
                    10. Joe Williams
                    My dream ballpark dimensions
                    LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
                    RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
                    Location....San Diego

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                    • #11
                      MY VOTES:

                      1 - Cal Ripken Jr.
                      2 - Kid Nichols
                      3 - Yogi Berra
                      4 - Eddie Mathews
                      5 - Mel Ott
                      6 - Monte Ward
                      7 - Johnny Bench
                      8 - Warren Spahn
                      9 - Bob Feller
                      10 - Pop Lloyd
                      Last edited by SavoyBG; 09-21-2011, 03:46 PM.

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                      • #12
                        01. Yogi Berra
                        02. Johnny Bench
                        03. Roberto Clemente
                        04. Mel Ott
                        05. Warren Spahn
                        06. Pop Lloyd
                        07. Kid Nichols
                        08. Cal Ripken Jr.
                        09. Arky Vaughan
                        10. George Brett

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                        • #13
                          Once we get past Williams, Lloyd and Stearns, I don't have any NeLers ranked. I'm sure I'm not alone on that one, so input would be appreciated.

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                          • #14
                            1) Buck Ewing
                            2) Pop Lloyd
                            3) Johnny Bench
                            4) Warren Spahn
                            5) Mel Ott
                            6) Yogi Berra
                            7) Bob Feller
                            8) Eddie Mathews
                            9) George Brett
                            10) Smokey Joe Williams

                            Knocking on the door: Cochrane, Mize, Boggs, Greenberg, Gehringer, Koufax, Vaughan, Kaline, Delahanty, Snider
                            "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
                            - Sammy Sosa

                            "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
                            - Craig Ashley (AKA Windy City Fan)

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                            • #15
                              Once we get past Williams, Lloyd and Stearns, I don't have any NeLers ranked. I'm sure I'm not alone on that one, so input would be appreciated.
                              Personal Negro League Rankings:

                              Gibson, Josh
                              Charleston, Oscar
                              Paige, Satchel
                              Lloyd, John Henry
                              Williams, Smokey Joe
                              Stearnes, Turkey

                              Dihigo, Martin
                              Rogan, Bullet Joe
                              Johnson, Grant
                              Wilson, Jud
                              Wells, Willie
                              Torriente, Cristobal
                              Foster, Willie
                              Santop, Louis
                              Irvin, Monte
                              Brown, Ray
                              Leonard, Buck
                              Hill, Pete
                              Lundy, Dick
                              Méndez, José
                              Beckwith, John
                              Foster, Rube
                              Oms, Alejandro
                              Suttles, Mule
                              Smith, Hilton
                              Trouppe, Quincy
                              Mackey, Biz
                              Grant, Frank
                              Brown, Willard
                              Cepeda, Perucho
                              Monroe, Bill

                              Below personal in/out line, but I can understand the arguments:
                              Moore, Dobie
                              Redding, Dick
                              Clarkson, Bus
                              Taylor, Ben
                              Day, Leon
                              Bell, Cool Papa
                              Easter, Luke
                              Cooper, Andy

                              Fine reputation, but I'm not seeing the translations:
                              Dandridge, Ray
                              Johnson, Judy

                              These rankings aren't necessarily set in stone, but they are a close approximation of how I have interpreted these players.

                              Because of his esteemed reputation, I will have a challenging time placing Cool Papa Bell, but the MLE translations find him to sit around where I have him listed above. In case the translations are wrong and the reputation is correct, I may end up placing him in the area of Cepeda/Monroe.
                              Last edited by Jar of Flies; 09-22-2011, 04:22 AM.
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