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  • Yankees BBF Franchise HOF, round 4

    The Yankees already have inducted:

    Players:
    Yogi Berra
    Earle Combs
    Bill Dickey
    Joe DiMaggio
    Whitey Ford
    Lou Gehrig
    Lefty Gomez
    Joe Gordon
    Ron Guidry
    Rickey Henderson
    Tommy Henrich
    Elston Howard
    Waite Hoyt
    Charlie Keller
    Tony Lazzeri
    Mickey Mantle
    Roger Maris
    Don Mattingly
    Gil McDougald
    Thurman Munson
    Bobby Murcer
    Mike Mussina
    Graig Nettles
    Herb Pennock
    Andy Pettite
    Willie Randolph
    Phil Rizzuto
    Red Ruffing
    Babe Ruth
    Mel Stottlemyre
    Roy White
    Bernie Williams

    Contributors:
    Mel Allen
    Ed Barrow
    Miller Huggins
    Billy Martin
    Joe McCarthy
    Jacob Ruppert
    Casey Stengel
    George Steinbrenner
    Joe Torre

    This election will close on Saturday February 18, 2012 at 7 am EST
    The last election is at this link

    PLEASE READ THE FORMAT AND RULES SECTION BEFORE VOTING. THANK YOU.

    FORMAT AND RULES

    Purpose: The purpose of this project is to create a Hall of Fame for each franchise whereby each franchise will honor those individuals whose contributions and accomplishments are most notable, significant, and enduring to that franchise's history. This project is not about simply honoring those with the best statistics with each franchise.

    Standards: Each franchise has its own unique history and context, and thus contributions and accomplishments that may stand out remarkably within one franchise's history, may not be so remarkable in another franchise's history. Standards from franchise to franchise will inherently vary, and thus there should be no impetus to create equal standards among the franchises or to aspire to the standards of the National Baseball Hall of Fame. Consequently, subjectivity within the context of the franchise in question will play an inevitable role when considering an individual's contributions and accomplishments with respect to that franchise. In sum, a franchise's Hall of Fame should be unaffected by the standards and contexts of other franchises as well as the National Baseball Hall of Fame, and should be entirely a product of its own history.

    Election Format: Elections will be conducted one franchise at a time starting in chronological order with the oldest continuously and currently operational franchise. Each election will last approximately seven days.
    - Ballot Size: Voters can select up to 15 players and 5 contributors per election. Ballots that exceed the maximum limits at the close of an election will not be counted. There is no minimum ballot size.
    - Ballot Editing: To account for ongoing discussion, voters may edit their ballots as often as necessary through the end of an election.
    - Election Percentage: Any individual that is listed on at least 75% of either the player or contributor submitted ballots will be elected to that team's Hall of Fame. In instances where an individual receive votes as both a player and a contributor, that individual will be elected if listed on at least 75% of ballots in either category or if the individual's combined vote total is at least 75% of the category with the greatest number of ballots submitted. However, a minimum of six votes are needed for election in any event.
    - Subsequent Rounds: After an election has been performed for each franchise, a second round of elections will commence, again proceeding in chronological order. A third round of elections (and perhaps beyond) may also be held depending on interest.

    Eligibility:
    - Players: Players may be considered by any currently operational franchise for which they appeared and are eligible either immediately upon officially retiring or after having not appeared at any level of professional baseball for an entire season for reasons not due to injury.
    - Contributors: Individuals that contributed in other capacities to a franchise may be considered, including managers, coaches, executives, owners, and broadcasters. Contributors that are still active may only be elected by their current employing franchise, and cannot be considered by prior employing franchises until no longer active (this does not apply to individuals who are employed by a franchise only in nominal and/or non-integral ways, such as in scouting, consulting, or public relations capacities).
    - Multiple Capacities: The totality of contributions and accomplishments with respect to a franchise are to be considered, and thus an individual can only be elected once by a franchise. For purposes of ballot size limits, an individual should be designated either a player or contributor based on what the voter perceives to be the individual's greater role with the franchise. An individual should not be listed as either a player or contributor merely to facilitate ballot space for the other category.
    - Relocations/Renaming: Franchises that have relocated and/or been renamed, may still consider and elect individuals that were with the franchise prior to the relocation/renaming.
    - Multiple Franchises: An individual may be considered and elected by multiple franchises.

    Franchise History
    - Founded: 1901 (AL for entire existence)
    - Former Locations/Names: Baltimore Orioles (1901-1902), New York Highlanders (1904-1912)

    Titles
    - World Series Championships: 27 (1923, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1943, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1977, 1978, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2009)
    - Pennants: 40 (1921, 1922, 1923, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1942, 1943, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1981, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2009)
    - Division Titles: 14 (1976, 1977, 1978, 1980, 1981, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009)
    - Wild Card Berths: 4 (1995, 1997, 2007, 2010)

    Helpful Links
    The following links are all courtesy of baseball-reference.com, baseball-almanac.com, and wikipedia.com, and may assist voters in determining an individual's impact on this franchise:
    - Franchise Almanac
    - All Batters
    - All Pitchers
    - Batting Leaders
    - Pitching Leaders
    - Most Common Positional Starters
    - Most Common Pitching Staff Alignments
    - Managers
    - Notable Owners and Executives
    - Notable Broadcasters

    Award Recipients
    - MVP Recipients (22): Alex Rodriguez (2007), Alex Rodriguez (2005), Don Mattingly (1985), Thurman Munson (1976), Elston Howard (1963), Mickey Mantle (1962), Roger Maris (1961), Roger Maris (1960), Mickey Mantle (1957), Mickey Mantle (1956), Yogi Berra (1955), Yogi Berra (1954), Yogi Berra (1951), Phil Rizzuto (1950), Joe DiMaggio (1947), Spud Chandler (1943), Joe Gordon (1942), Joe DiMaggio (1941), Joe DiMaggio (1939), Lou Gehrig (1936), Lou Gehrig (1927), Babe Ruth (1923)

    - Cy Young Recipients (5): Roger Clemens (2001), Ron Guidry (1978), Sparky Lyle (1977), Whitey Ford (1961), Bob Turley (1958)

    - RoY Recipients (8): Derek Jeter (1996), Dave Righetti (1981), Thurman Munson (1970), Stan Bahnsen (1968), Tom Tresh (1962), Tony Kubek (1957), Bob Grim (1954), Gil McDougald (1951)

    - Batting Triple Crown (2): Mickey Mantle (1956), Lou Gehrig (1934)

    - Pitching Triple Crown (2): Lefty Gomez (1937), Lefty Gomez (1934)

    Multiple All Star Selections (no adjustment for double selections for 1959-1962)
    Code:
    Rank 	Player			Selections
    1	Mickey Mantle		20
    2	Yogi Berra		18
    3	Joe DiMaggio		13
    4	Elston Howard		12
    t5	Bill Dickey		11
    t5	Derek Jeter*		11
    t5	Mariano Rivera*		11
    8	Whitey Ford		10
    t9	Bobby Richardson	8
    t9	Dave Winfield		8
    t11	Lou Gehrig		7
    t11	Lefty Gomez		7
    t11	Thurman Munson		7
    t11	Moose Skowron		7
    t15	Joe Gordon		6
    t15	Roger Maris		6
    t15	Don Mattingly		6
    t15	Gil McDougald		6
    t15	Alex Rodriguez*		6
    t15	Red Ruffing		6
    t21	Tommy Henrich		5
    t21	Reggie Jackson		5
    t21	Charlie Keller		5
    t21	Graig Nettles		5
    t21	Jorge Posada*		5
    t21	Willie Randolph		5
    t21	Allie Reynolds		5
    t21	Phil Rizzuto		5
    t21	Mel Stottlemyre		5
    t21	Bernie Williams		5
    t31	Wade Boggs		4
    t31	Spud Chandler		4
    t31	Goose Gossage		4
    t31	Ron Guidry		4
    t31	Rickey Henderson	4
    t31	Tony Kubek		4
    t31	Bobby Murcer		4
    t31	Paul O’Neill		4
    t31	Vic Raschi		4
    t31	Red Rolfe		4
    t40	Hank Bauer		3
    t40	Ben Chapman		3
    t40	Ryne Duren		3
    t40	Jason Giambi*		3
    t40	Sparky Lyle		3
    t40	Johnny Murphy		3
    t40	Joe Page		3
    t40	Joe Pepitone		3
    t40	Andy Pettitte*		3
    t40	Tom Tresh		3
    t51	Tiny Bonham		2
    t51	Hank Borowy		2
    t51	Robinson Cano*		2
    t51	Roger Clemens		2
    t51	Joe Coates		2
    t51	David Cone		2
    t51	Frankie Crosetti	2
    t51	Bucky Dent		2
    t51	Catfish Hunter		2
    t51	Tommy John		2
    t51	Jimmy Key		2
    t51	Hideki Matsui*		2
    t51	George McQuinn		2
    t51	Monte Pearson		2
    t51	Dave Righetti		2
    t51	Babe Ruth		2
    t51	Steve Sax		2
    t51	George Selkirk		2
    t51	Gary Sheffield		2
    t51	Alfonso Soriano*	2
    t51	Snuffy Stirnweiss	2
    t51	Ralph Terry		2
    t51	Bob Turley		2
    t51	Roy White		2	
    
    * Player is currently active
    Notable Managers (with at least 300 games managed with this franchise or at least one pennant win)
    Code:
    Manager			Games		Win %	WS Titles	Pennants	Div Titles	Wild Cards
    Yogi Berra		342		.565	1		1
    Bill Donovan		465		.479
    Joe Girardi*		486		.591	1		1		1		1
    Clark Griffith		807		.531
    Bucky Harris		309		.620	1		1
    Ralph Houk		1757		.539	2		3
    Dick Howser		163		.632					1
    Miller Huggins		1796		.597	3		6
    Bob Lemon		172		.576	1		2		2
    Billy Martin		941		.591	1		2		2
    Joe McCarthy		2348		.627	7		8
    Lou Piniella		417		.537
    Buck Showalter^		582		.539					1		1
    Casey Stengel		1851		.623	7		10
    Joe Torre		1942		.605	4		6		10		2
    
    * Current manager
    ^ Currently managing another team
    Last edited by jalbright; 02-04-2012, 03:11 PM.
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

  • #2
    My ballot:
    Players:
    Hank Bauer
    Spud Chandler
    Ben Chapman
    Jack Chesbro
    Rich Gossage
    Eddie Lopat
    Paul O'Neill
    Roger Peckinpaugh
    Jorge Posada
    Allie Reynolds
    Red Rolfe
    Bob Shawkey
    Bob Skowron
    Tom Tresh
    Dave Winfield

    Contributors
    George Weiss
    Last edited by jalbright; 02-04-2012, 03:55 PM.
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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    • #3
      I think that George Weiss is a serious omission by this point. Here's a case I cobbled together from some online sources:

      In 1932, at 37, George Weiss was hired by the Yankees to create a farm system, which had been pioneered by the St. Louis Cardinals and was the linchpin of the Cardinals' dominance of the Senior Circuit. Weiss grew the Yankee system from four farm teams in 1931 to 16 by 1939 and 20 by 1947. The Yankee farm system churned out many of the players who would lead the Bronx Bombers to their four consecutive (1936–39) World Series titles in the 1930s, their five straight titles (1949–53), and their six other championship clubs sprinkled throughout the rest of the 1940s and 1950s. Thus in total, the team won 19 American League pennants and 15 World Series Championships with his involvement.

      In October 1947, just after the 1947 World Series championship, Weiss was promoted to general manager of the Yankees. Weiss led the Yankees to 10 AL pennants and seven world titles in 13 seasons.

      He was named The Sporting News' Major League Executive of the Year in 1950, 1951, 1952, and 1960.
      Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
      Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
      A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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      • #4
        Players
        Hank Bauer
        Ray Caldwell
        Spud Chandler
        Ben Chapman
        Bob Meusel
        Paul O'Neill
        Roger Peckinpaugh
        Wally Pipp
        Jorge Posada
        Allie Reynolds
        Red Rolfe
        Bob Shawkey
        Bill Skowron
        Snuffy Stirnweiss
        Dave Winfield

        Contributors
        Joe Girardi
        Clark Griffith
        Bucky Harris
        Ralph Houk
        Bob Lemon

        In the list of players already elected to this Hall, you've got Hoyt Wilhelm instead of Waite Hoyt.
        *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

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        • #5
          Hank Bauer
          Spud Chandler
          Jack Chesbro
          Rich Gossage
          Elston Howard
          Waite Hoyt
          Bob Meusel
          Paul O'Neill
          Jorge Posada
          Vic Raschi
          Allie Reynolds
          Dave Righetti
          Red Rolfe
          Moose Skowron
          Dave Winfield

          Contributors:
          Bucky Harris
          Ralph Houk
          "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Herr28 View Post
            ...
            Elston Howard
            I realized when I saw this in your ballot that I had omitted his name as one who had been elected. You have an open spot on your ballot if you wish to fill it. Sorry for my error. I will also PM you on this.
            Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
            Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
            A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

            Comment


            • #7
              Thanks for the note! Here's my new ballot:

              Hank Bauer
              Spud Chandler
              Jack Chesbro
              Rich Gossage
              Sparky Lyle
              Bob Meusel
              Paul O'Neill
              Jorge Posada
              Vic Raschi
              Allie Reynolds
              Dave Righetti
              Red Rolfe
              Moose Skowron
              Tom Tresh
              Dave Winfield

              Contributors:
              Bucky Harris
              Ralph Houk
              Last edited by Herr28; 02-05-2012, 12:29 AM. Reason: Added Lyle
              "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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              • #8
                Players:

                Hank Bauer
                Spud Chandler
                Ben Chapman
                Jack Chesbro
                Bucky Dent
                Googe Gossage
                Reggie Jackson
                Bob Meusel
                Paul O'Neill
                Lou Pinella
                Jorge Posada
                Allie Reynolds
                Bob Shawkey
                Moose Skowron
                Dave Winfield

                Contributors:

                Red Barber
                Brian Cashman
                Ralph Houk
                Bob Shepphard
                George Weiss

                Player's Queue:

                Hank Bauer
                Russ Ford
                Don Larson
                Sparky Lyle
                Wally Pipp
                Dave Righetti
                Red Rolfe

                Contributor's Queue:

                Lee MacPhail
                Frank Messer
                Last edited by jjpm74; 02-05-2012, 09:42 AM.

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                • #9
                  Players
                  Hank Bauer
                  Wade Boggs
                  Spud Chandler
                  Ben Chapman
                  Goose Gossage
                  Reggie Jackson
                  Tony Kubek
                  Paul O'Neill
                  Allie Reynolds
                  Bobby Richardson
                  Dave Righetti
                  Red Rolfe
                  Bill Skowron
                  Tom Tresh
                  Dave Winfield

                  Contributors
                  Red Barber
                  Ralph Houk
                  Bob Sheppard
                  George Weiss

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DJC View Post
                    In the list of players already elected to this Hall, you've got Hoyt Wilhelm instead of Waite Hoyt.
                    So I did. I've changed the listing. For all those who have already voted for Hoyt, this is the request in the thread for you to make the change. I will also PM you about it. I apologize for the confusion.
                    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post
                      Players:
                      .....
                      Charlie Keller
                      Keller's already elected, and isn't due to one of my set of mistakes in this thread. You have an empty spot in your ballot you may want to fill. I'll also PM you on this.
                      Last edited by jalbright; 02-04-2012, 03:45 PM.
                      Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                      Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                      A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Players:

                        Hank Bauer

                        Spud Chandler

                        Roger Peckinpaugh

                        Wally Pip

                        Jorge Posada

                        Red Rolfe

                        Bob Shawkey

                        Dave Winfield

                        Contributors:

                        Red Barber

                        Ralph Houk

                        Bob Sheppard

                        George Weiss
                        Last edited by NJRob65; 02-04-2012, 03:59 PM.

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                        • #13
                          I think that Jason Giambi is still active.http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...iambja01.shtml has his salary listed for 2012 as $1,000,000 as a member of the Colorado Rockies. I don't believe that he's announced his retirement.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jalbright View Post
                            Keller's already elected, and isn't due to one of my set of mistakes in this thread. You have an empty spot in your ballot you may want to fill. I'll also PM you on this.
                            Keller has been switched out and Gil McDougald has been added to my ballot.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post
                              Keller has been switched out and Gil McDougald has been added to my ballot.
                              Gil McDougald has also already been elected.

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