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  • BBF Braves Hall of Fame - Round Five

    Thee last round for the Braves can be found here: Round Four

    This election will close on Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 7 am EDT.

    We have already inducted the following:

    Players
    Hank Aaron
    Joe Adcock
    Wally Berger
    Tommy Bond
    Del Crandall
    Hugh Duffy
    Bob Elliott
    Tom Glavine
    Tommy Holmes
    Johnny Logan
    Herman Long
    Greg Maddux
    Rabbit Maranville
    Eddie Mathews
    Dale Murphy
    Kid Nichols
    Phil Niekro
    John Smoltz
    Warren Spahn
    Joe Torre
    Vic Willis

    Contributors elections for this ballot concluded
    Bobby Cox
    Leo Mazzone
    John Schuerholz
    Frank Selee
    Ted Turner


    PLEASE READ THE FORMAT AND RULES SECTION BEFORE VOTING. THANK YOU.

    FORMAT AND RULES

    Purpose: The purpose of this project is to create a Hall of Fame for each franchise whereby each franchise will honor those individuals whose contributions and accomplishments are most notable, significant, and enduring to that franchise's history. This project is not about simply honoring those with the best statistics with each franchise.

    Standards: Each franchise has its own unique history and context, and thus contributions and accomplishments that may stand out remarkably within one franchise's history, may not be so remarkable in another franchise's history. Standards from franchise to franchise will inherently vary, and thus there should be no impetus to create equal standards among the franchises or to aspire to the standards of the National Baseball Hall of Fame. Consequently, subjectivity within the context of the franchise in question will play an inevitable role when considering an individual's contributions and accomplishments with respect to that franchise. In sum, a franchise's Hall of Fame should be unaffected by the standards and contexts of other franchises as well as the National Baseball Hall of Fame, and should be entirely a product of its own history.

    Election Format: Elections will be conducted one franchise at a time starting in chronological order with the oldest continuously and currently operational franchise. Each election will last approximately five days.
    - Ballot Size: Voters can select up to 15 players and 5 contributors per election. There is no minimum ballot size.
    - Ballot Editing: To account for ongoing discussion, voters may edit their ballots as often as necessary through the end of an election.
    - Election Percentage: Any individual that is listed on at least 75% of either the player or contributor submitted ballots will be elected to that team's Hall of Fame, but six votes minimum in all cases.
    - Subsequent Rounds: After an election has been performed for each franchise, a second round of elections will commence, again proceeding in chronological order. A third round of elections (and perhaps beyond) may also be held depending on interest.

    Eligibility:
    - Players: Players may be considered by any currently operational franchise for which they appeared and are eligible either immediately upon officially retiring or after having not appeared at any level of professional baseball for an entire season for reasons not due to injury.
    - Contributors: Individuals that contributed in other capacities to a franchise may be considered, including managers, coaches, executives, owners, and broadcasters. Contributors that are still active may only be elected by their current employing franchise, and cannot be considered by prior employing franchises until no longer active (this does not apply to individuals who are employed by a franchise only in nominal and/or non-integral ways, such as in consulting or public relations capacities).
    - Multiple Capacities: The totality of contributions and accomplishments with respect to a franchise are to be considered, and thus an individual can only be elected once by a franchise. For purposes of ballot size limits, an individual should be designated either a player or contributor based on what the voter perceives to be the individual's greater role with the franchise.
    - Relocations/Renaming: Franchises that have relocated and/or been renamed, may still consider and elect individuals that were with the franchise prior to the relocation/renaming.
    - Multiple Franchises: An individual may be considered and elected by multiple franchises.

    Franchise History
    - Founded: 1876 (NL for entire existence, though formed from remnants of the Boston Red Stockings of the National Association, founded in 1871)
    - Former Locations/Names: Boston Red Caps (1876-1882); Boston Beaneaters (1883-1906); Boston Doves (1907-1910); Boston Rustlers (1911); Boston Braves (1912-1935, 1941-1952); Boston Bees (1936-1940); Milwaukee Braves (1953-1965).

    Titles
    - World Series Championships: 3 (1914, 1957, 1995)
    - Pennants: 17 (1877, 1878, 1883, 1891, 1892, 1893, 1897, 1898, 1914, 1948, 1957, 1958, 1991, 1992, 1995, 1996, 1999)
    - Division Titles: 16 (1969, 1982, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005)
    - Wild Card Berths: 1 (2010)

    Helpful Links
    The following links are all courtesy of baseball-reference.com and wikipedia and may assist voters in determining a individual's impact on this franchise:
    - All Batters
    - All Pitchers
    - Batting Leaders
    - Pitching Leaders
    - Most Common Positional Starters
    - Most Common Pitching Alignments
    - Managers
    - Notable Owners and Executives

    Award Recipients
    - MVP Recipients (7): Chipper Jones (1999), Terry Pendleton (1991), Dale Murphy (1983), Dale Murphy (1982), Hank Aaron (1957), Bob Elliott (1947), Johnny Evers (1914)

    - Cy Young Recipients (7): Tom Glavine (1998), John Smoltz (1996), Greg Maddux (1995), Greg Maddux (1994), Greg Maddux (1993), Tom Glavine (1991), Warren Spahn (1957)

    - RoY Recipients (5): Rafael Furcal (2000), David Justice (1990), Bob Horner (1978), Earl Williams (1971), Sam Jethroe (1950)

    - Batting Triple Crown (0):

    - Pitching Triple Crown (2): John Clarkson (1889), Tommy Bonds (1877)

    Multiple All Star Selections
    Code:
    [U]Rank 	Player			Selections[/U]
    1	Hank Aaron		24
    2	Warren Spahn		17
    3	Eddie Mathews		12
    4	Del Crandall		11
    t5	Tom Glavine		8
    t5	John Smoltz		8
    7	Dale Murphy		7
    t8	Chipper Jones*		6
    t8	Greg Maddux		6
    t10	Andruw Jones*		5
    t10	Brian McCann*		5
    t10	Joe Torre		5
    t13	Wally Berger		4
    t13	Frank Bolling		4
    t13	Johnny Logan		4
    t13	Phil Masi		4
    t13	Phil Niekro		4
    t18	Lew Burdette		3
    t18	Bob Elliott		3
    t18	Javy Lopez		3
    t18	Fred McGriff		3
    t18	Felix Milan		3
    t18	Eddie Miller		3
    t24	Joe Adcock		2
    t24	Felipe Alou		2
    t24	Bruce Benedict		2
    t24	Jeff Blauser		2
    t24	Bob Buhl		2
    t24	Gene Conley		2
    t24	Mort Cooper		2
    t24	Andres Galarraga	2
    t24	Tommy Holmes		2
    t24	Al Javery		2
    t24	David Justice		2
    t24	Johnny Sain		2
    
    * Player is currently active
    Notable Player List
    The following is a list of inactive players who with this franchise had at least 3,000 plate appearances (or 2,500 if predominantly played during the 19th Century), 1,000 innings pitched, or appeared as pitcher in 200 games. This list is purely meant as a guide for players who contributed to this franchise over some modicum of time, though players with this franchise not appearing on this list may still be considered by voters, as it is entirely possible that a player may have made a significant and lasting contribution to this franchise despite having a relatively short tenure with the franchise.

    Code:
    [U]Player (105)[/U]
    Hank Aaron
    Joe Adcock
    Felipe Aou
    Paul Assenmacher
    Steve Avery
    Jesse Barnes
    Steve Bedrosian
    Bruce Benedict
    Wally Berger
    Vern Bickford
    Jeff Blauser
    Tommy Bond
    Ed Brandt
    Bill Bruton
    Charlie Buffinton
    Bob Buhl
    Lew Burdette
    Jack Burdock
    Rick Camp
    Ben Cantwell
    Rico Carty
    Chris Chambliss
    John Clarkson
    Tony Cloninger
    Jimmy Collins
    Del Crandall
    Jeff Dedmon
    Hugh Duffy
    Bob Elliott
    Darrell Evans
    Dana Fillingim
    Fred Frankhouse
    Ron Gant
    Gene Garber
    Ralph Garr
    Joe Genewich
    Tom Glavine
    Kevin Gryboski
    Billy Hamilton
    Tommy Holmes
    Bob Horner
    Joe Hornung
    Glenn Hubbard
    Pat Jarvis
    Al Javery
    Ernie Johnson
    David Justice
    Denny Lemaster
    Mark Lemke
    Ted Lewis
    Kerry Ligtenberg
    Johnny Logan
    Herman Long
    Javy Lopez
    Bobby Lowe
    Mike Lum
    Danny MacFayden
    Greg Maddux
    Rick Mahler
    Rabbit Maranville
    Phil Masi
    Eddie Mathews
    Tommy McCarthy
    Don McMahon
    Gene McMichael
    Kent Mercker
    Felix Milan
    John Morril
    Peter Moylan
    Dale Murphy
    Billy Nash
    Kid Nichols
    Phil Niekro
    Joe Oeschger
    TogiePittinger
    Ray Powell
    Charles Radbourn
    Rafael Ramirez
    Ron Reed
    Mike Remlinger
    John Rocker
    Jerry Royster
    Dick Rudolph
    Johnny Sain
    Sibby Sisti
    Bob Smith
    John Smoltz
    Warren Spahn
    Harry Staley
    Mike Stanton
    Jack Stivetts
    Ezra Sutton
    Bill Sweeney
    Fred Tenney
    Jim Tobin
    Joe Torre
    Tommy Tucker
    Lefty Tyler
    Cecil Upshaw
    Billy Urbanski
    Jim Whitney
    Vic Willis
    Sam Wise
    Mark Wohlers
    Irv Young
    Managers
    Code:
    [U]Manager			Games		Win %	WS Titles	Pennants	Div Titles	Wild Cards[/U]
    Dave Bancroft		615		.407
    Vern Benson		1		1.000
    Del Bissonette		60		.424
    Frank Bowerman		76		.289
    Bobby Bragan		599		.519
    Dave Bristol		322		.404
    A Buckenberger		437		.435
    Jack Burdock		54		.556
    Bob Coleman		295		.437
    Johnny Cooney		46		.444
    Bobby Cox		3860		.557	1		5		14		1	
    Chuck Dressen		284		.562
    Judge Fuchs		154		.364
    Charlie Grimm		631		.545
    Eddie Haas		121		.413
    Fred Haney		575		.596	1		2
    Lum Harris		754		.504					1
    James Hart		133		.648
    Billy Hitchcock		210		.524
    Tommy Holmes		130		.469
    Rogers Hornsby		122		.320
    Joe Kelley		156		.409
    King Kelly		95		.533
    Clyde King		198		.487
    Johnny Kling		155		.340
    Fred Lake		157		.346
    Eddie Mathews		311		.481
    Bill McKechnie		1235		.457
    Fred Mitchell		462		.404
    John Morrill		645		.531			1
    Russ Nixon		347		.376
    Connie Ryan		27		.333
    Frank Selee		1677		.607			5
    Ken Silvestri		3		.000
    Jack Slattery		31		.355
    Harry Smith		79		.299
    Billy Southworth	789		.542			1
    George Stallings	1202		.492	1
    Casey Stengel		870		.432
    Chuck Tanner		361		.424
    Birdie Tebbetts		187		.524
    Fred Tenney		616		.334
    Joe Torre		486		.529					1
    Ted Turner		1		.000
    Bobby Wine		41		.390
    Harry Wright		444		.576			2
    Last edited by jalbright; 03-18-2012, 01:50 PM.
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

  • #2
    Players

    1. Felipe Alou
    2. Charlie Buffinton
    3. Rico Carty
    4. John Clarkson
    5. Jimmy Collins
    6. Darrell Evans
    7. Ron Gant
    8. Billy Hamilton
    9. David Justice
    10. Javy Lopez
    11. Billy Nash
    12. Johnny Sain
    13. Ezra Sutton
    14. Fred Tenney
    15. Jim Whitney
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

    Comment


    • #3
      Players
      Charlie Buffinton
      Rico Carty
      John Clarkson
      Jimmy Collins
      Darrell Evans
      Billy Hamilton
      David Justice
      Javy Lopez
      Bobby Lowe
      John Morrill
      Billy Nash
      Jack Stivetts
      Ezra Sutton
      Fred Tenney
      Jim Whitney

      Also, you're missing Leo Mazzone and Frank Selee in the contributor list.
      *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by DJC View Post
        you're missing Leo Mazzone and Frank Selee in the contributor list.
        Corrected now.
        Last edited by jalbright; 03-19-2012, 04:49 AM.
        Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
        Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
        A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

        Comment


        • #5
          Felipe Alou
          Bill Bruton
          Bob Buhl
          Lew Burdette
          Rico Carty
          Darrell Evans
          Ron Gant
          Ralph Garr
          Bob Horner
          Sam Jethroe
          David Justice
          Javy Lopez
          Fred McGriff
          Terry Pendleton
          Johnny Sain
          3 6 10 21 29 31 35 41 42 44 47

          Comment


          • #6
            Lew Burdette
            Rico Carty
            John Clarkson
            Jimmy Collins
            Ron Gant
            Billy Hamilton
            Bob Horner
            Glenn Hubbard
            David Justice
            Al Spalding
            Ezra Sutton
            Fred Tenney

            Comment


            • #7
              Players:

              Felipe Alou

              Lew Burdette

              Rico Carty

              John Clarkson

              Jimmy Collins

              Darrell Evans

              Billy Hamilton

              David Justice

              Javy Lopez

              Billy Nash

              Ezra Sutton

              Fred Tenney

              Jim Whitney

              Comment


              • #8
                Just a reminder of my two cases for Braves still on the ballot:

                Billy Hamilton
                Hamilton was with the Braves franchise from 1896-1901, and is the CF with the most WAR during that time. He was the best CF in WAR in the following individual seasons: 1896, 1897, 1898 and 1900.

                John Clarkson
                Clarkson was with the team in 1888-1892, though only half the 1891 season. He was dominant in that time, though:
                He got a pitching Triple Crown (Wins, ERA and K's) in 1889
                He led the league (all players) in WAR in 1889, and was 6th in the same classification in 1890;
                In pitching WAR, he led the league in 1889, was 5th in 1890, 8th in 1892, and 9th in 1888;
                In ERA, he was first in 1889 and 3rd in 1892;
                In wins, he was first in 1889, 2d in 1888, and 7th in 1890;
                In won-loss percentage, he was first in 1889, 6th in 1888, and 9th in 1890;
                In strikeouts/ 9 IP, he was 5th in 1889 and 9th in 1888;
                In strikeouts, he was first in 1889, 2d in 1888, and 10th in 1890;
                and in IP, he led in both 1888 and 1889 and was 7th in 1890.

                This was in an era when pitchers often had all their careers in as few as five seasons, or at least all their productive years in such a span. Few if any in that time could match Clarkson's productivity in his years with the Braves.
                Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Felipe Alou
                  Jeff Blauser
                  Lew Burdette
                  John Clarkson
                  Billy Hamilton
                  Bob Horner
                  David Justice
                  Javy Lopez
                  Phil Masi
                  Fred McGriff
                  Felix Millan
                  Billy Nash
                  Terry Pendleton
                  Johnny Sain
                  Fred Tenney

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    With about 4 1/2 days left in this election, there's been six votes cast in this election, just enough to elect candidates, but only with a unanimous vote.
                    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      The Braves got exactly six player votes, enough to elect one candidate, David Justice. The official results:

                      6 Justice, David
                      = ============
                      5 Carty, Rico
                      5 Clarkson, John
                      5 Hamilton, Billy
                      5 Lopez, Javy
                      5 Tenney, Fred
                      4 Alou, Felipe
                      4 Burdette, Lew
                      4 Collins, Jimmy
                      4 Evans, Darrell
                      4 Nash, Billy
                      4 Sutton, Ezra
                      3 Gant, Ron
                      3 Horner, Bob
                      3 Sain, Johnny
                      3 Whitney, Jim
                      2 Buffinton, Charlie
                      2 McGriff, Fred
                      2 Pendleton, Terry
                      1 Blauser, Jeff
                      1 Bruton, Bill
                      1 Buhl, Bob
                      1 Garr, Ralph
                      1 Hubbard, Glenn
                      1 Jethroe, Sam
                      1 Lowe, Bobby
                      1 Masi, Phil
                      1 Millan, Felix
                      1 Morrill, John
                      1 Spalding, Al
                      1 Stivetts, Jack
                      Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                      Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                      A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

                      Comment

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