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    This will be one of three second chance round elections this week. What we'll do for the second chance election is a Yes/No vote requiring the greater of 6 or 75% of the votes to induct. The election will be limited to the listed nominees. The elections will only be open for a week--but there will be at least three or four days for discussion and new nominations. You can abstain from an entire ballot (player or contributor), but if you vote in that portion of the ballot, only the guys you expressly vote yes for get credit for a positive vote. The others in that section of the ballot will be considered to have gotten a "no" vote. There will be no limits on how many nominees you can vote for . I will also provide the nomination discussions for the nominees. The deadline for suggesting nominees is twelve hours before the election begins.


    In this case, the election will not begin until Saturday, April 28 at 7 am EDT, and will end at 7 am EDT May 5. Nominations close 12 hours before the election begins, or April 27 at 7 pm EDT. Ballots not cast within the stated election time frame will not count.


    The Phils have the following already inducted:

    - Inducted Players (19): Pete Alexander, Dick Allen, Richie Ashburn, Jim Bunning, Johnny Callison, Steve Carlton, Jack Clements, Gavvy Cravath, Ed Delahanty, Del Ennis, Billy Hamilton, Chuck Klein, Greg Luzinski, Sherry Magee, Robin Roberts, Curt Schilling, Mike Schmidt, Roy Thomas, Sam Thompson

    - Inducted Contributors (5): Pat Gillick, Harry Kalas, Charlie Manuel, Paul Owens, Danny Ozark

    The list of nominees at present is:

    Players
    Bob Boone
    Larry Bowa
    Darren Daulton
    Lenny Dykstra
    Charlie Ferguson
    Elmer Flick
    von Hayes
    Willie Jones
    Garry Maddox
    Al Orth
    Chris Short
    Curt Simmons
    Manny Trillo
    Cy Williams

    Contributors
    Dallas Green
    Pat Moran
    Phillie Phanatic
    Al Reach
    Harry Wright
    Last edited by jalbright; 04-27-2012, 02:41 PM.
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    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
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  • #2
    Here's a case I posted for Dallas Green as a contributor for the Phillies:
    Green won in 1980 and had them going well until the strike in 1981. It went downhill after that. But Green had a big hand in creating that team as well: Green became the assistant farm director for the Philadelphia Phillies from 1970 to 1972. He was the director of player development from 1973 to 1974 and Scouting Director from 1975 to 1979.
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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    • #3
      Garry Maddox
      Maddox was the defensive glue on the late 70's and early 80's multiple division winning and one time world champion teams. He won 8 Gold Gloves as a Phillie, and it was a good thing, because he spent at least half of those years with the rather immobile Greg Luzinski in left. It was his defense that led to the famous line: "Three quarters of the earth is covered by water, and Garry Maddox covers the rest."

      He's among the franchise leaders in some key areas:
      18th among hitters in career WAR;
      2d in career defensive WAR;
      15th in games;
      16th in at bats; and
      17th in hits.

      Originally posted by dgarza View Post
      I'd like to add that he was awarded the Roberto Clemente Award in 1986.
      Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
      Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
      A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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      • #4
        Curt Simmons:

        He's in the top 10 of many key career pitching marks for the franchise:
        7th in pitching WAR;
        5th in wins;
        5th in IP;
        8th in strikeouts;
        5th in games started; and
        6th in shutouts.

        He had several fine years as a Phillie, as can be seen by his times among the seasonal league leaders in pitching:
        3 time All-Star;
        6 times top 10 in ERA;
        5 times top 10 in wins;
        4 times top 10 in strikeouts; and
        5 times in the top 10 of K/BB ratio.
        Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
        Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
        A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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        • #5
          Chris Short

          He's even higher in the team's pitching career leaderboards than Curt Simmons:
          4th in pitching WAR;
          4th in wins;
          4th in IP;
          3d in strikeouts;
          3d in games started; and
          4th in shutouts.

          He wasn't a slacker in having good seasons either, as evidenced by these times in the seasonal league pitching leaderboard in key categories:
          4 times top 10 pitching WAR;
          4 times top 10 K/9 IP;
          3 times top 10 in IP; and
          5 times top 10 in strikeouts.
          Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
          Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
          A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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          • #6
            Jim, you have Ennis listed as alreqady inducted AND as a candidate.

            Tony Taylor and Willie Jones deserve serious consideration. I don't have time right now to write up anything on them but I'll endeavor to do so if no one else does.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BigRon View Post
              Jim, you have Ennis listed as alreqady inducted AND as a candidate.

              Tony Taylor and Willie Jones deserve serious consideration. I don't have time right now to write up anything on them but I'll endeavor to do so if no one else does.
              Ennis was elected. I've removed him from the nominees list, and removed the post detailing his case.

              I've done all the Phillie cases I'm likely to do. If someone else wants to put together a case for Taylor and/or Jones, I'm all for it.
              Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
              Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
              A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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              • #8
                less than 7 hours left for nominations.
                Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                • #9
                  My wife broke her foot. I don't have time to do any writeups- sorry.

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                  • #10
                    Hope she recovers quickly.
                    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                    • #11
                      I'm not sure these cases are all that strong, but here they are anyway:

                      Charlie Ferguson
                      23.9 pWAR (8th in franchise history)
                      2.67 ERA (8th)
                      99 W (8th)
                      0.607 W-L% (8th)
                      1.117 WHIP (5th)
                      8.331 H/9 (22nd)
                      1.723 BB/9 (4th)
                      1514.7 IP (11th)
                      728 SO (12th)
                      170 GS (20th)
                      165 CG (4th)
                      13 SHO (tied for 14th)
                      2.51 SO/BB (10th)
                      6310 BF (14th)
                      120 ERA+ (tied for 15th)

                      Cy Williams
                      24.8 WAR/pos (21st in franchise history)
                      29.8 oWAR (15th)
                      0.306 BA (16th)
                      0.380 OBP (16th)
                      0.500 SLG (14th)
                      0.880 OPS (15th)
                      1463 G (11th)
                      5077 AB (13th)
                      5786 PA (14th)
                      825 R (12th)
                      1553 H (9th)
                      2539 TB (7th)
                      237 2B (tied for 18th)
                      217 HR (7th)
                      795 RBI (11th)
                      551 BB (13th)
                      1050 1B (12th)
                      131 OPS+ (17th)
                      503 XBH (10th)
                      2159 TOB (11th)
                      23.4 AB/HR (17th)

                      Elmer Flick
                      24.0 WAR/pos (24th in franchise history)
                      0.338 BA (4th)
                      0.419 OBP (3rd)
                      0.489 SLG (19th)
                      0.907 OPS (8th)
                      57 3B (20th)
                      156 OPS+ (1st)

                      Al Orth
                      19.6 pWAR (13th in franchise history)
                      100 W (7th)
                      0.581 W-L% (18th)
                      1.878 BB/9 (10th)
                      1504.7 IP (13th)
                      173 GS (19th)
                      149 CG (8th)
                      14 SHO (tied for 11th)
                      6354 BF (13th)

                      Willie Jones
                      24.5 oWAR (21st in franchise history)
                      1520 G (9th)
                      5419 AB (10th)
                      6241 PA (9th)
                      735 R (16th)
                      1400 H (15th)
                      2236 TB (13th)
                      232 2B (tied for 20th)
                      180 HR (12th)
                      753 RBI (12th)
                      693 BB (6th)
                      956 1B (16th)
                      444 XBH (16th)
                      2114 TOB (12th)

                      Harry Wright (for contributor)
                      1227 games managed (2nd in franchise history)
                      636 W (3rd)
                      0.529 W-L% (9th)
                      70 games above 0.500 (3rd)

                      Pat Moran (for contributor)
                      587 games managed (14th in franchise history)
                      323 W (11th)
                      0.557 W-L% (5th)
                      66 games above 0.500 (4th)
                      National League pennant in 1915 -- this is the Phillies, remember
                      Last edited by Nerdlinger; 04-27-2012, 12:43 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Phillie Phanatic
                        Iconic mascot of the Phillies since 1978.

                        Appeared on popular culture TV, movies, books, etc.

                        from Wikipedia :
                        The Phanatic was voted "best mascot ever" by Sports Illustrated for Kids. In January 2008, Forbes magazine named the Phanatic the best mascot in sports.

                        In 2005, David Raymond founded the Mascot Hall of Fame, and the Phanatic was inducted as a charter member. Since 2003, Burgoyne has written seven children's books, published by the team, featuring the Phanatic.

                        In 2009, the Phanatic was one of several recipients of the Great Friend to Kids (GFTK) Awards, given by the Please Touch Museum (the Children's Museum of Philadelphia).

                        The Phillie Phanatic, along with Youppi! and the San Diego Chicken, are the only mascots on display at in the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum in Cooperstown, NY.

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                        • #13
                          All the above additions have been added to the list of nominees.
                          Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                          Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                          A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                          • #14
                            Harry Wight
                            3rd most Wins & Games Over .500
                            Code:
                                                                      
                            Rk                   Mgr Yrs From   To   W
                            1         Charlie Manuel   8 2005 2012 655
                            2             Gene Mauch   9 1960 1968 646
                            3       Harry Wright HOF  10 1884 1893 636
                            4            Danny Ozark   7 1973 1979 594
                            5            Jim Fregosi   6 1991 1996 431
                            Code:
                                                                        
                            Rk                   Mgr Yrs From   To G.500
                            1         Charlie Manuel   8 2005 2012   157
                            2            Danny Ozark   7 1973 1979    84
                            3       Harry Wright HOF  10 1884 1893    70
                            4              Pat Moran   4 1915 1918    66
                            5        Bill Shettsline   5 1898 1902    64
                            Inducted into the Hall of Fame by Veteran's Committee as Pioneer/Executive in 1953.

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                            • #15
                              Al Reach
                              Helped found the Philadelphia Phillies franchise.

                              Reach served as team president from 1883 to 1899.

                              The A.J. Reach Company, also known as A.J. Reach & Co., was the largest manufacturer of sporting goods in the United States in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Founded by Al Reach, a former player and founder of the Philadelphia Phillies franchise, it was based in Philadelphia, PA.

                              Reach's Official Base Ball Guide was published between 1883 and 1939 as a direct competitor of the Spalding Guide. Its title varied during its history but always included the "Reach". It was a publication of the Philadelphia based A.J. Reach Company, from 1883 until 1927. It was the official publication of the American Association from 1883 until 1892, and was the American League's official publication from 1902 until its end.

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