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  • Who Should be Reinstated to the BBWAA Ballot? (vote for your top 5)

    The 5% rule is notorious for knocking great (and near-great) players off the Hall of Fame ballot. At one time in the mid '80's the Hall reinstated many 5% victims to the ballot: Ron Santo, Ken Boyer, Dick Allen, et al. It's time they did this again.

    The 2013 election will consider candidates who retired in the years 1993-2007. This poll has 40 players who retired in those years but were knocked off the ballot by the 5% rule. Vote for the five (5) players who you would most like to see put on the 2013 ballot.


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    Baines H  Davis Ch    Hough C     Saberhagen B
    Belle A   Fernandez T Key J       Stieb D
    Bonilla B Finley C    Langston M  Strawberry D
    Brown K   Franco Jo   Martinez De Tanana F
    Burks E   Gaetti G    McGee W     Valenzuela F
    Butler B  Galarraga A ONeill P    Ventura R
    Canseco J Gibson K    Olerud J    Wallach T
    Carter J  Gooden D    Parrish Ln  Welch B
    Clark W   Grace M     Phillips T  Whitaker L
    Cone D    Hershiser O Reardon J   Williams M
    210
    Harold Baines
    3.81%
    8
    Albert Belle
    8.57%
    18
    Bobby Bonilla
    0.00%
    0
    Kevin Brown
    10.95%
    23
    Ellis Burks
    0.00%
    0
    Brett Butler
    0.95%
    2
    Jose Canseco
    2.38%
    5
    Joe Carter
    1.43%
    3
    Will Clark
    11.43%
    24
    David Cone
    6.67%
    14
    Chili Davis
    0.48%
    1
    Tony Fernandez
    0.00%
    0
    Chuck Finley
    0.48%
    1
    John Franco
    4.29%
    9
    Gary Gaetti
    0.00%
    0
    Andres Galarraga
    1.90%
    4
    Kirk Gibson
    0.48%
    1
    Dwight Gooden
    0.48%
    1
    Mark Grace
    0.00%
    0
    Orel Hershiser
    0.95%
    2
    Charlie Hough
    0.48%
    1
    Jimmy Key
    0.00%
    0
    Mark Langston
    0.48%
    1
    Dennis Martinez
    1.43%
    3
    Willie McGee
    0.00%
    0
    Paul O'Neill
    0.48%
    1
    John Olerud
    3.33%
    7
    Lance Parrish
    1.43%
    3
    Tony Phillips
    0.00%
    0
    Jeff Reardon
    0.48%
    1
    Bret Saberhagen
    6.19%
    13
    Dave Stieb
    8.57%
    18
    Darryl Strawberry
    0.48%
    1
    Frank Tanana
    0.95%
    2
    Fernando Valenzuela
    0.95%
    2
    Robin Ventura
    1.90%
    4
    Tim Wallach
    0.00%
    0
    Bob Welch
    0.48%
    1
    Lou Whitaker
    16.67%
    35
    Matt Williams
    0.48%
    1

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by Freakshow; 05-22-2012, 02:55 PM.
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  • #2
    Albert Belle: Based on raw stats, he should have been in long ago.

    John Franco: When he retired, he was 2nd all-time in saves. He was a big part of the Mets franchise. Grew up in NY and even became captain (a rare feat for a relief pitcher)

    Harold Baines: Most hits of any player not inducted by the Hall of Fame (Palmerio aside)

    Robin Ventura: Was Ron Santo much better than Robin Ventura?

    John Olerud: Underrated and overshadowed by steroid users; two monster seasons in 1998 and 1993.

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    • #3
      I'll go : Whitaker, Brown, Saberhagen, Cone, and Stieb. Maybe I'd switch out one of the pitchers with Olerud.
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      • #4
        Brown, Cone, O'Neill, Olerud, Whitaker.
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        • #5
          Baines, Belle, Saberhagen, Strawberry, Ventura
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          • #6
            I voted for Jose Canseco, Andres Galarraga, Joe Carter, Harold Baines, and Albert Belle

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            • #7
              Lou Whitaker, Dave Stieb and Will Clark are all major oversights. I also added Orel Hershiser and Frank Tanana to round it out and if I could vote for more would have included Dave Cone, Kevin Brown and Chuck Finley.

              I strongly feel that the BBWAA does not give modern pitchers a fair shake on the ballot unless they were an all time great.

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              • #8
                I voted for 5 and I didnt vote for Whitaker. Could a mod change that. I voted Cone, Belle, Baines, K. Brown and Franco. I would put Whitaker in before Franco
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                • #9
                  Whitaker


                  Cone, Stieb, Brown

                  Clark

                  Whitaker is such an absurdity its mindboggling. How does a guy that gets linked with his DP partner as one of the great DP combos of all time during his career, retire as one of the top 10-20 2B of all time, arguably in the third group behind Morgan, Hornsby, Lajoie, Collins - Robinson, Gehringer, Carew, Biggio Alomar, Sandberg, Frisch et. al. go out like that.

                  I'm not real crazy about the rest. I put Cone up there so I felt I had to put Stieb. Though on Stieb, IMO Gooden and Tanana, to name two, were miles ahead at their peaks which unfortunately ended by age 23. Brown has the Mitchell Report but so be it.

                  Belle I almost had but I put in Clark who really is not that far above Olerud.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post
                    I'll go : Whitaker, Brown, Saberhagen, Cone, and Stieb. Maybe I'd switch out one of the pitchers with Olerud.
                    This is exactly what I voted for. If I was going to drop one it'd probably be Stieb I guess, but I feel more strongly about all of them than I do Olerud or Belle.

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                    • #11
                      Albert Belle
                      Will Clark
                      David Cone
                      Dave Stieb
                      Lou Whitaker

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
                        I voted for 5 and I didnt vote for Whitaker. Could a mod change that. I voted Cone, Belle, Baines, K. Brown and Franco. I would put Whitaker in before Franco
                        I've reduced Franco's total by one and increased Whitaker's total by one. I don't have the power to do any more (like how your vote is attributed).
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                        • #13
                          alphabetically: Brown, Clark, Cone, Saberhagen, Whitaker
                          Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                          Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                          A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                          • #14
                            Belle, Clark, Olerud, Welch, Whitaker

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                            • #15
                              Whitaker, Baines, and Franco (I support for induction). I added Stieb and Saberhagen to bring it up to five, though I don't support either for the Hall.
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