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    This will be one of three second chance round elections begun this week. What we'll do for the second chance election is a Yes/No vote requiring the greater of 6 or 75% of the votes to induct. The election will be limited to the listed nominees. The elections will only be open for a week--but there will be at least three or four days for discussion and new nominations. You can abstain from an entire ballot (player or contributor), but if you vote in that portion of the ballot, only the guys you expressly vote yes for get credit for a positive vote. The others in that section of the ballot will be considered to have gotten a "no" vote. There will be no limits on how many nominees you can vote for . I will also provide the nomination discussions for the nominees. The deadline for suggesting nominees is twelve hours before the election begins.

    In this case, the election will not begin until Saturday, June 9 at 7 am EDT, and will end at 7 am EDT June 16. Nominations close 43 hours before the election begins, or June 7 at noon EDT. Ballots not cast within the stated election time frame will not count.


    The Rangers have the following already inducted:

    Players inducted (14): Buddy Bell, Will Clark, Julio Franco, Juan Gonzalez, Toby Harrah, Charlie Hough, Frank Howard, Ferguson Jenkins, Ken McMullen, Rafael Palmeiro, Kenny Rogers, Nolan Ryan, Ruben Sierra, Jim Sundberg

    Contributors inducted (1): Johnny Oates

    The list of nominees at present is:

    Players
    Jeff Burroughs
    Rusty Greer
    Mike Hargrove
    Pete O'Brien
    Al Oliver
    Gaylord Perry
    Jeff Russell

    Contributors
    George W. Bush
    Tom Grieve
    Ron Washington
    Ted Williams
    Last edited by jalbright; 06-07-2012, 05:23 AM.
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

  • #2
    We've gotten this from DoubleX for Tom Grieve as a contributor for the Rangers:
    Tom Grieve - Combo for both GM and broadcasting
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

    Comment


    • #3
      We got this from Domenic for Ron Washington as a contributor for the Rangers:

      Contributors
      Ron Washington

      Washington's overall resume may be lacking, but he is incredibly popular among Rangers fans and he guided the team to its first pennant - I can't overlook that.
      The quoted post was made before Washington led Texas back to the playoffs in 2011.
      Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
      Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
      A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

      Comment


      • #4
        Al Oliver
        .319/.358/.466
        131 OPS+

        All-Star Games
        1980 *
        1981 *

        Silver Sluggers
        1980 AL (OF)
        1981 AL (DH)

        Oliver has the highest AVG of any Texas Ranger [5th best OPS+ (500 game min.)]
        Code:
                                                    
        Rk           Player   BA OPS+    G From   To
        1         Al Oliver .319  131  534 1978 1981
        2     Josh Hamilton .314  140  550 2008 2012
        3        Will Clark .308  124  609 1994 1998
        4      Julio Franco .307  129  632 1989 1993
        5    Alex Rodriguez .305  155  485 2001 2003
        6       Rusty Greer .305  119 1027 1994 2002

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        • #5
          George W. Bush
          1989, Bush helps arrange a syndicate to purchase controlling interest in the Texas Rangers. He becomes managing general partner through 1994. Bush becomes the public face of the team. Lobbys for a new stadium for the club, The Ballpark in Arlington.

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          • #6
            Jeff Burroughs

            I think we need to take a look at Jeff Burroughs.

            He played four full seasons for the team (and parts of three earlier ones), compiling a slash line of .255/.341/.428 and an OPS+ of 122.

            He hit 108 HR and had 412 RBI, including 118 in 1974, the season he won the AL MVP Award.
            3 6 10 21 29 31 35 41 42 44 47

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            • #7
              Mike Hargrove
              .293/.399/.409
              130 OPS+
              71.4% of vote last election

              1974 AL Rookie of the Year

              All-Star Games
              1975 *

              Bases on Balls
              1976 AL 97 (1st)
              1978 AL 107 (1st)

              Assists as 1B
              1978 AL 116 (1st)

              Highest Ranger OBP (500 game min.)
              Code:
                                                      
              Rk            Player  OBP    G From   To
              1      Mike Hargrove .399  726 1974 1978
              2         Will Clark .395  609 1994 1998
              3        Rusty Greer .387 1027 1994 2002
              4       Julio Franco .382  632 1989 1993
              5    Rafael Palmeiro .378 1573 1989 2003
              7th in OPS+
              T9th in AVG

              Most AL Walks, 1974-1978
              Code:
                                                     
              Rk             Player  BB   G From   To
              1       Mike Hargrove 435 726 1974 1978
              2         Toby Harrah 431 765 1974 1978
              3       John Mayberry 421 748 1974 1978
              4    Carl Yastrzemski 420 746 1974 1978
              5       Ken Singleton 402 610 1975 1978

              Comment


              • #8
                Bobby Valentine

                Last election, he received some votes because I assume he was eligible in 2011.

                But is he no longer eligible?

                Comment


                • #9
                  Jeff Russell
                  134 Saves -2nd in franchise history
                  114 ERA+

                  1989 AL Rolaids Relief

                  All-Star Games
                  1988 *
                  1989 *

                  Saves
                  1989 AL 38 (1st)

                  Games Finished
                  1989 AL 66 (1st)

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dgarza View Post
                    Bobby Valentine

                    Last election, he received some votes because I assume he was eligible in 2011.

                    But is he no longer eligible?
                    Valentine will have to wait for the current actives election. I'm not going to repeat the Guillen mistake.
                    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      We're inside of a day left for nominations (until noon EDT Thursday)
                      Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                      Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                      A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Ted Williams
                        Under Williams as manager, Senators went from last place to over .500 for the 1st time in franchise history.

                        During his tenure as manager, Williams wrote The Science of Hitting.

                        This is from BBF Bullpen, and I had never heard this, but I'll include it as part of Williams's case:
                        In 1969, Dick Allen's brother Hank Allen was quoted as saying that the Senators had not been fair to black players in 1968, but under new ownership and new manager Ted Williams in 1969, things had turned around totally.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Gaylord Perry
                          48-43 = .527 %
                          118 ERA+
                          1.181 WHIP

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Rusty Greer
                            .305/.387/.478
                            119 OPS+
                            20.5 WAR

                            Team career records (500 game min.)
                            3rd in OBP
                            5th in AVG, Doubles, Walks
                            6th in Runs
                            7th in Triples, RBIs
                            8th in Hits
                            10th in SLG

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Pete O'Brien
                              71.4% of the vote last election

                              .273/.348/.432
                              112 OPS+

                              Also one of the best defensive 1B in the game, 1982-1988
                              WAR Runs Fielding
                              Code:
                                                                   
                              Rk            Player Rfield From   To
                              1    Keith Hernandez     65 1982 1988
                              2        Pete OBrien     63 1982 1988
                              3       Eddie Murray     40 1982 1988
                              4      Willie Upshaw     34 1982 1988
                              5          Sid Bream     32 1983 1988

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