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  • Ranking the HoF Players: 206-210

    Project Summary: To rank the worthiness of the players inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame from most worthy to least worthy.

    Election Format: Voters are to submit ballots ranking their 10 most worthy remaining Hall of Fame players in order of worthiness. Each first place vote will be worth 10 points, with each successive rank being worth one point less than the previous rank, ending in a tenth place vote being worth 1 point. Players will also receive one additional point for each ballot they are listed on and players must be listed on at least three ballots in order to be elected. The five players with the highest support at the end of each election will be elected in the order of their support. Elections will last approximately seven days.
    - Tiebreakers: Tiebreakers at the end of an election will be decided in the following order: 1) Total ballot appearances in that election; 2) Total points in that election irrespective of number of ballots; 3) Number of first place votes in that election; 4) Finish in previous election. Players that lose a tiebreaker for the fifth spot in an election will be voted in as the sixth player in that election, with the next election to elect just four players.

    Factors to Consider: As this project focuses on players inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame, subjective qualities beyond just statistics should be taken into consideration in determining a player's relative worthiness. In that vein, the voting guidelines that the BBWAA is to follow in actual National Baseball Hall of Fame elections, may be instructive (though not necessarily determinative in this project): "Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played."

    Player Eligibility: Only players that have been elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame as players are eligible, including Negro League players and 19th Century players. A complete list of individuals that have been inducted as players is available at the National Baseball Hall of Fame's website, and is recreated below along with each player's corresponding BBF Rank as determined by this project:

    Results
    1) Babe Ruth
    2) Willie Mays
    3) Ty Cobb
    4) Ted Williams
    5) Hank Aaron
    6) Honus Wagner
    7) Walter Johnson
    8) Lou Gehrig
    9) Cy Young
    10) Stan Musial
    11) Mickey Mantle
    12) Rogers Hornsby
    13) Jackie Robinson
    14) Tris Speaker
    15) Josh Gibson
    16) Eddie Collins
    17) Satchel Paige
    18) Grover Alexander
    19) Frank Robinson
    20) Joe DiMaggio
    21) Oscar Charleston
    22) Mike Schmidt
    23) Lefty Grove
    24) Tom Seaver
    25) Cap Anson
    26) Christy Mathewson
    27) Rickey Henderson
    28) Jimmie Foxx
    29) Nap Lajoie
    30) Joe Morgan
    31) Johnny Bench
    32) Mel Ott
    33) Warren Spahn
    34) Yogi Berra
    35) Cal Ripken
    36) George Brett
    37) Pop Lloyd
    38) Kid Nichols
    39) Eddie Mathews
    40) Bob Feller
    41) Roberto Clemente
    42) Bob Gibson
    43) Joe Williams
    44) Carl Yastrzemski
    45) Hank Greenberg
    46) Dan Brouthers
    47) Steve Carlton
    48) Sandy Koufax
    49) Ed Delahanty
    50) Johnny Mize
    51) Al Kaline
    52) Turkey Stearnes
    53) Wade Boggs
    54) Charlie Gehringer
    55) Mickey Cochrane
    56) Reggie Jackson
    57) Arky Vaughan
    58) Roger Connor
    59) Nolan Ryan
    ---Top 25% Cutoff---
    60) Robin Yount
    61) Rod Carew
    62) Tony Gwynn
    63) Carl Hubbell
    64) Roy Campanella
    65) Ernie Banks
    66) Sam Crawford
    67) Duke Snider
    68) George Davis
    69) King Kelly
    70) John Ward
    71) Eddie Murray
    72) Bullet Rogan
    73) Harmon Killebrew
    74) Buck Ewing
    75) Billy Hamilton
    76) Gaylord Perry
    77) Carlton Fisk
    78) Paul Waner
    79) Juan Marichal
    80) Al Simmons
    81) John Clarkson
    82) Martin Dihigo
    83) Robin Roberts
    84) Willie McCovey
    85) Frankie Frisch
    86) Phil Niekro
    87) Eddie Plank
    88) Gary Carter
    89) Whitey Ford
    90) Tim Keefe
    91) Mordecai Brown
    92) Luke Appling
    93) Brooks Robinson
    94) Ferguson Jenkins
    95) Willie Stargell
    96) Frank Baker
    97) Jim Palmer
    98) Joe Cronin
    99) Bill Dickey
    100) Jesse Burkett
    101) Harry Heilmann
    102) Fred Clarke
    103) Buck Leonard
    104) Hoyt Wilhelm
    105) Ed Walsh
    106) Bert Blyleven
    107) Barry Larkin
    108) Gabby Hartnett
    109) Dave Winfield
    110) George Sisler
    111) Mule Suttles
    112) Joe Medwick
    113) Jim O'Rourke
    114) Jud Wilson
    115) Ozzie Smith
    116) Paul Molitor
    117) Charles Radbourn
    118) Monte Irvin
    ---Top 50% Cutoff---
    119) Ryne Sandberg
    120) Roberto Alomar
    121) Ron Santo
    122) Billy Williams
    123) Willie Keeler
    124) Willie Wells
    125) Cristobal Torriente
    126) Dennis Eckersley
    127) Zack Wheat
    128) Larry Doby
    129) Amos Rusie
    130) Goose Goslin
    131) Bill Terry
    132) Don Drysdale
    133) Dizzy Dean
    134) Lou Brock
    135) Rube Waddell
    136) Cool Papa Bell
    137) Hal Newhouser
    138) Joe Gordon
    139) Kirby Puckett
    140) Lou Boudreau
    141) Ralph Kiner
    142) Rich Gossage
    143) Dazzy Vance
    144) Pee Wee Reese
    145) Sam Thompson
    146) Pud Galvin
    147) Billy Herman
    148) Biz Mackey
    149) Louis Santop
    150) Early Wynn
    151) Stan Coveleski
    152) Edd Roush
    153) Don Sutton
    154) Ted Lyons
    155) Frank Chance
    156) Max Carey
    157) Jimmy Collins
    158) Earl Averill
    159) Richie Ashburn
    160) Andre Dawson
    161) Bobby Doerr
    162) Pie Traynor
    163) Elmer Flick
    164) Joe McGinnity
    165) Joe Kelley
    166) Roger Bresnahan
    167) Jim Bunning
    168) Ray Brown
    169) Red Ruffing
    170) Bid McPhee
    171) Bobby Wallace
    172) Orlando Cepeda
    173) Hugh Jennings
    174) Willard Brown
    175) Enos Slaughter
    176) Bob Lemon
    177) Hugh Duffy
    ---Top 75% Cutoff---
    178) Jake Beckley
    179) Pete Hill
    180) Mickey Welch
    181) Red Faber
    182) Addie Joss
    183) Ray Dandridge
    184) Bill Foster
    185) Sam Rice
    186) Frank Grant
    187) Nellie Fox
    188) Joe Sewell
    189) Hilton Smith
    190) Chuck Klein
    191) Phil Rizzuto
    192) Luis Aparicio
    193) Jose Mendez
    194) Lefty Gomez
    195) Tony Perez
    196) Vic Willis
    197) Kiki Cuyler
    198) Rollie Fingers
    199) Eppa Rixey
    200) Hack Wilson
    201) Johnny Evers
    202) Tony Lazzeri
    203) Ernie Lombardi
    204) Leon Day
    205) Chief Bender

    Master List
    Code:
    [B][U]Player				BBF Rank[/U][/B]
    Hank Aaron			5
    Grover Alexander		18
    Roberto Alomar			120
    Cap Anson			25
    Luis Aparicio			192
    Luke Appling			92
    Richie Ashburn			159
    Earl Averill			158
    Frank Baker			96
    Dave Bancroft
    Ernie Banks			65
    Jake Beckley			178
    Cool Papa Bell			136
    Johnny Bench			31
    Chief Bender			205
    Yogi Berra			34
    Bert Blyleven			106
    Wade Boggs			53
    Jim Bottomley
    Lou Boudreau			140
    Roger Bresnahan			166
    George Brett			36
    Lou Brock			134
    Dan Brouthers			46
    Mordecai Brown			91
    Ray Brown			168
    Willard Brown			174
    Jim Bunning			167
    Jesse Burkett			100
    Roy Campanella			64
    Rod Carew			61
    Max Carey			156
    Steve Carlton			47
    Gary Carter			88
    Orlando Cepeda			172
    Frank Chance			155
    Oscar Charleston		21
    Jack Chesbro
    Fred Clarke			102
    John Clarkson			81
    Roberto Clemente		41
    Ty Cobb				3
    Mickey Cochrane			55
    Eddie Collins			16
    Jimmy Collins			157
    Earle Combs
    Roger Connor			58
    Andy Cooper
    Stan Coveleski			151
    Sam Crawford			66
    Joe Cronin			98
    Kiki Cuyler			197
    Ray Dandridge			183
    George Davis			68
    Andre Dawson			160
    Leon Day			204
    Dizzy Dean			133
    Ed Delahanty			49
    Bill Dickey			99
    Martin Dihigo			82
    Joe DiMaggio			20
    Larry Doby			128
    Bobby Doerr			161
    Don Drysdale			132
    Hugh Duffy			177
    Dennis Eckersley		126
    Johnny Evers			201
    Buck Ewing			74
    Red Faber			181
    Bob Feller			40
    Rick Ferrell
    Rollie Fingers			198
    Carlton Fisk			77
    Elmer Flick			163
    Whitey Ford			89
    Bill Foster			184
    Nellie Fox			187
    Jimmie Foxx			28
    Frankie Frisch			85
    Pud Galvin			146
    Lou Gehrig			8
    Charlie Gehringer		54
    Bob Gibson			42
    Josh Gibson			15
    Lefty Gomez			194
    Joe Gordon			138
    Goose Goslin			130
    Rich Gossage			142
    Frank Grant			186
    Hank Greenberg			45
    Burleigh Grimes
    Lefty Grove			23
    Tony Gwynn			62
    Chick Hafey
    Jesse Haines
    Billy Hamilton			75
    Gabby Hartnett			108
    Harry Heilmann			101
    Rickey Henderson		27
    Billy Herman			147
    Pete Hill			179
    Harry Hooper
    Rogers Hornsby			12
    Waite Hoyt
    Carl Hubbell			63
    Catfish Hunter
    Monte Irvin			118
    Reggie Jackson			56
    Travis Jackson	
    Ferguson Jenkins		94
    Hugh Jennings			173
    Judy Johnson
    Walter Johnson			7
    Addie Joss			182
    Al Kaline			51
    Tim Keefe			90
    Willie Keeler			123
    George Kell
    Joe Kelley			165
    George Kelly
    King Kelly			69
    Harmon Killebrew		73
    Ralph Kiner			141
    Chuck Klein			190
    Sandy Koufax			48
    Nap Lajoie			29
    Barry Larkin			107
    Tony Lazzeri			202
    Bob Lemon			176
    Buck Leonard			103
    Freddie Lindstrom
    Pop Lloyd			37
    Ernie Lombardi			203
    Ted Lyons			154
    Biz Mackey			148
    Mickey Mantle			11
    Heinie Manush
    Rabbit Maranville
    Juan Marichal			79
    Rube Marquard
    Eddie Mathews			39
    Christy Mathewson		26
    Willie Mays			2
    Bill Mazeroski
    Tommy McCarthy
    Willie McCovey			84
    Joe McGinnity			164
    Bid McPhee			170
    Joe Medwick			112
    Jose Mendez			193
    Johnny Mize			50
    Paul Molitor			116
    Joe Morgan			30
    Eddie Murray			71
    Stan Musial			10
    Hal Newhouser			137
    Kid Nichols			38
    Phil Niekro			86
    Jim O’Rourke			113
    Mel Ott				32
    Satchel Paige			17
    Jim Palmer			97
    Herb Pennock
    Tony Perez			195
    Gaylord Perry			76
    Eddie Plank			87
    Kirby Puckett			139
    Charles Radbourn		117
    Pee Wee Reese			144
    Jim Rice
    Sam Rice			185
    Cal Ripken			35
    Eppa Rixey			199
    Phil Rizzuto			191
    Robin Roberts			83
    Brooks Robinson			93
    Frank Robinson			19
    Jackie Robinson			13
    Bullet Rogan			72
    Edd Roush			152
    Red Ruffing			169
    Amos Rusie			129
    Babe Ruth			1
    Nolan Ryan			59
    Ryne Sandberg			119
    Ron Santo			121
    Louis Santop			149
    Ray Schalk
    Mike Schmidt			22
    Red Schoendienst
    Tom Seaver			24
    Joe Sewell			188
    Al Simmons			80
    George Sisler			110
    Enos Slaughter			175
    Hilton Smith			190
    Ozzie Smith			115
    Duke Snider			67
    Warren Spahn			33
    Tris Speaker			14
    Willie Stargell			95
    Turkey Stearnes			52
    Bruce Sutter
    Mule Suttles			111
    Don Sutton			153
    Ben Taylor
    Bill Terry			131
    Sam Thompson			145
    Joe Tinker
    Cristobal Torriente		125
    Pie Traynor			162
    Dazzy Vance			143
    Arky Vaughan			57
    Rube Waddell			135
    Honus Wagner			6
    Bobby Wallace			171
    Ed Walsh			105
    Lloyd Waner
    Paul Waner			78
    John Ward			70
    Mickey Welch			180
    Willie Wells			124
    Zack Wheat			127
    Hoyt Wilhelm			104
    Billy Williams			122
    Joe Williams			43
    Ted Williams			4
    Vic Willis			196
    Hack Wilson			200
    Jud Wilson			114
    Dave Winfield			109
    Early Wynn			150
    Carl Yastrzemski		44
    Cy Young			9
    Ross Youngs
    Robin Yount			60
    Ranking by Primary Position
    Catcher (14): Josh Gibson (15), Johnny Bench (31), Yogi Berra (34), Mickey Cochrane (55), Roy Campanella (64), Buck Ewing (74), Carlton Fisk (77), Gary Carter (88), Bill Dickey (99), Gabby Hartnett (108), Biz Mackey (148), Louis Santop (149), Roger Bresnahan (166), Ernie Lombardi (203)

    First Base (18): Lou Gehrig (8), Cap Anson (25), Jimmie Foxx (28), Hank Greenberg (45), Dan Brouthers (46), Johnny Mize (50), Roger Connor (58), Eddie Murray (71), Harmon Killebrew (73), Willie McCovey (84), Buck Leonard (103), George Sisler (110), Mule Suttles (111), Bill Terry (131), Frank Chance (155), Orlando Cepeda (172), Jake Beckley (178), Tony Perez (195)

    Second Base (18): Rogers Hornsby (12), Jackie Robinson (13), Eddie Collins (16), Nap Lajoie (29), Joe Morgan (30), Charlie Gehringer (54), Rod Carew (61), Frankie Frisch (85), Ryne Sandberg (119), Roberto Alomar (120), Joe Gordon (138), Billy Herman (147), Bobby Doerr (161), Bid McPhee (170), Frank Grant (186), Nellie Fox (187), Johnny Evers (201), Tony Lazzeri (202)

    Shortstop (20): Honus Wagner (6), Cal Ripken (35), Pop Lloyd (37), Arky Vaughan (57), Robin Yount (60), Ernie Banks (65), George Davis (68), John Ward (70), Luke Appling (92), Joe Cronin (98), Barry Larkin (107), Ozzie Smith (115), Willie Wells (124), Lou Boudreau (140), Pee Wee Reese (144), Bobby Wallace (171), Hugh Jennings (173), Joe Sewell (188), Phil Rizzuto (191), Luis Aparicio (192)

    Third Base (12): Mike Schmidt (22), George Brett (36), Eddie Mathews (39), Wade Boggs (53), Brooks Robinson (93), Frank Baker (96), Jud Wilson (114), Paul Molitor (116), Ron Santo (121), Jimmy Collins (157), Pie Traynor (162), Ray Dandridge (183)

    Left Field (18): Ted Williams (4), Stan Musial (10), Rickey Henderson (27), Carl Yastrzemski (44), Ed Delahanty (49), Al Simmons (80), Willie Stargell (95), Jesse Burkett (100), Fred Clarke (102), Joe Medwick (112), Jim O'Rourke (113), Monte Irvin (118), Billy Williams (122), Zack Wheat (127), Goose Goslin (130), Lou Brock (134), Ralph Kiner (141), Joe Kelley (165)

    Center Field (21): Willie Mays (2), Ty Cobb (3), Mickey Mantle (11), Tris Speaker (14), Joe DiMaggio (20), Oscar Charleston (21), Turkey Stearnes (52), Duke Snider (67), Billy Hamilton (75), Cristobal Torriente (125), Larry Doby (128), Cool Papa Bell (136), Kirby Puckett (139), Edd Roush (152), Max Carey (156), Earl Averill (158), Richie Ashburn (159), Willard Brown (174), Hugh Duffy (177), Pete Hill (179), Hack Wilson (200)

    Right Field (21): Babe Ruth (1), Hank Aaron (5), Frank Robinson (19), Mel Ott (32), Roberto Clemente (41), Al Kaline (51), Reggie Jackson (56), Tony Gwynn (62), Sam Crawford (66), King Kelly (69), Paul Waner (78), Harry Heilmann (101), Dave Winfield (109), Willie Keeler (123), Sam Thompson (145), Andre Dawson (160), Elmer Flick (163), Enos Slaughter (175), Sam Rice (185), Chuck Klein (190), Kiki Cuyler (197)

    Pitcher (63): Walter Johnson (7), Cy Young (9), Satchel Paige (17), Grover Alexander (18), Lefty Grove (23), Tom Seaver (24), Christy Mathewson (26), Warren Spahn (33), Kid Nichols (38), Bob Feller (40), Bob Gibson (42), Joe Williams (43), Steve Carlton (47), Sandy Koufax (48), Nolan Ryan (59), Carl Hubbell (63), Bullet Rogan (72), Gaylord Perry (76), Juan Marichal (79), John Clarkson (81), Martin Dihigo (82), Robin Roberts (83), Phil Niekro (86), Eddie Plank (87), Whitey Ford (89), Tim Keefe (90), Mordecai Brown (91), Ferguson Jenkins (94), Jim Palmer (97), Hoyt Wilhelm (104), Ed Walsh (105), Bert Blyleven (106), Charles Radbourn (117), Dennis Eckersley (126), Amos Rusie (129), Don Drysdale (132), Dizzy Dean (133), Rube Waddell (135), Hal Newhouser (137), Rich Gossage (142), Dazzy Vance (143), Pud Galvin (146), Early Wynn (150), Stan Coveleski (151), Don Sutton (153), Ted Lyons (154), Joe McGinnity (164), Jim Bunning (167), Ray Brown (168), Red Ruffing (169), Bob Lemon (176), Mickey Welch (180), Red Faber (181), Addie Joss (182), Bill Foster (184), Hilton Smith (189), Jose Mendez (193), Left Gomez (194), Vic Willis (196), Rollie Fingers (198), Eppa Rixey (199), Leon Day (204), Chief Bender (205)

    Ranking by Primary Decade
    1880s (12): Cap Anson (25), Dan Brouthers (46), Roger Connor (58), King Kelly (69), John Ward (70), Buck Ewing (74), John Clarkson (81), Tim Keefe (90), Jim O'Rourke (113), Charles Radbourn (117), Pud Galvin (146), Mickey Welch (180)

    1890s (15): Cy Young (9), Kid Nichols (38), Ed Delahanty (49), George Davis (68), Billy Hamilton (75), Jesse Burkett (100), Willie Keeler (123), Amos Rusie (129), Sam Thompson (145), Joe Kelley (165), Bid McPhee (171), Hugh Jennings (173), Hugh Duffy (177), Jake Beckley (178), Frank Grant (186)

    1900s (18): Honus Wagner (6), Christy Mathewson (26), Nap Lajoie (29), Sam Crawford (66), Eddie Plank (87), Mordecai Brown (91), Fred Clarke (102), Rube Waddell (135), Frank Chance (155), Jimmy Collins (157), Elmer Flick (163), Joe McGinnity (164), Roger Bresnahan (166), Bobby Wallace (170), Addie Joss (182), Vic Willis (196), Johnny Evers (201), Chief Bender (205)

    1910s (14): Ty Cobb (3), Walter Johnson (7), Tris Speaker (14), Eddie Collins (16), Grover Alexander (18), Pop Lloyd (37), Joe Williams (43), Frank Baker (96), Ed Walsh (105), Zack Wheat (127), Louis Santop (149), Max Carey (156), Pete Hill (179), Jose Mendez (193)

    1920s (20): Babe Ruth (1), Rogers Hornsby (12), Oscar Charleston (21), Turkey Stearnes (52), Bullet Rogan (72), Frankie Frisch (85), Harry Heilmann (101), George Sisler (110), Cristobal Torriente (125), Goose Goslin (130), Dazzy Vance (143), Biz Mackey (148), Stan Coveleski (151), Edd Roush (152), Pie Traynor (162), Red Faber (181), Sam Rice (185), Joe Sewell (188), Eppa Rixey (199), Hack Wilson (200)

    1930s (36): Lou Gehrig (8), Josh Gibson (15), Satchel Paige (17), Lefty Grove (23), Jimmie Foxx (28), Mel Ott (32), Hank Greenberg (45), Charlie Gehringer (54), Mickey Cochrane (55), Arky Vaughan (57), Carl Hubbell (63), Paul Waner (78), Al Simmons (80), Martin Dihigo (82), Joe Cronin (98), Bill Dickey (99), Gabby Hartnett (108), Mule Suttles (111), Joe Medwick (112), Jud Wilson (114), Willie Wells (124), Bill Terry (131), Dizzy Dean (133), Cool Papa Bell (136), Billy Herman (147), Ted Lyons (154), Earl Averill (158), Ray Brown (168), Red Ruffing (169), Bill Foster (184), Hilton Smith (189), Chuck Klein (190), Lefty Gomez (194), Kiki Cuyler (197), Tony Lazzeri (202), Ernie Lombardi (203)

    1940s (18): Ted Williams (4), Stan Musial (10), Joe DiMaggio (20), Bob Feller (40), Johnny Mize (50), Luke Appling (92), Buck Leonard (103), Monte Irvin (118), Hal Newhouser (137), Joe Gordon (138), Lou Boudreau (140), Pee Wee Reese (144), Bobby Doerr (161), Willard Brown (174), Enos Slaughter (175), Ray Dandridge (183), Phil Rizzuto (191), Leon Day (204)

    1950s (15): Mickey Mantle (11), Jackie Robinson (13), Warren Spahn (33), Yogi Berra (34), Eddie Mathews (39), Roy Campanella (64), Duke Snider (67), Robin Roberts (83), Whitey Ford (89), Larry Doby (128), Ralph Kiner (141), Early Wynn (150), Richie Ashburn (159), Bob Lemon (176), Nellie Fox (187)

    1960s (19): Willie Mays (2), Hank Aaron (5), Frank Robinson (19), Roberto Clemente (41), Bob Gibson (42), Sandy Koufax (48), Al Kaline (51), Ernie Banks (65), Harmon Killebrew (73), Juan Marichal (79), Willie McCovey (84), Brooks Robinson (93), Hoyt Wilhelm (104), Ron Santo (121), Billy Williams (122), Don Drysdale (132), Jim Bunning (167), Orlando Cepeda (172), Luis Aparicio (192)

    1970s (19): Tom Seaver (24), Joe Morgan (30), Johnny Bench (31), Carl Yastrzemski (44), Steve Carlton (47), Reggie Jackson (56), Nolan Ryan (59), Rod Carew (61), Gaylord Perry (76), Carlton Fisk (77), Phil Niekro (86), Ferguson Jenkins (94), Willie Stargell (95), Jim Palmer (97), Bert Blyleven (106), Lou Brock (134), Don Sutton (153), Tony Perez (195), Rollie Fingers (198)

    1980s (15): Mike Schmidt (22), Rickey Henderson (27), Cal Ripken (35), George Brett (36), Wade Boggs (53), Robin Yount (60), Tony Gwynn (62), Eddie Murray (71), Gary Carter (88), Dave Winfield (109), Ozzie Smith (115), Paul Molitor (116), Ryne Sandberg (119), Dennis Eckersley (126), Rich Gossage (142)

    1990s (3): Barry Larkin (107), Roberto Alomar (120), Kirby Puckett (139)

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  • #2
    1) Jim Rice
    2) Dave Bancroft
    3) Rabbit Maranville
    4) Red Schoendienst
    5) Joe Tinker
    6) Waite Hoyt
    7) Catfish Hunter
    8) Heinie Manush
    9) Earle Combs
    10) Bruce Sutter

    Just missed: Travis Jackson

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    • #3
      1. Catfish Hunter
      2. Waite Hoyt
      3. Jim Rice
      4. Rabbit Maranville
      5. Burleigh Grimes
      6. Heinie Manush
      7. Jim Bottomley
      8. Red Schoendienst
      9. Bruce Sutter
      10. George Kell

      Next : Dave Bancroft, Jack Chesbro, Bill Mazeroski

      Soon : Ross Youngs, Earle Combs

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      • #4
        1) Heinie Manush
        2) Jim Rice
        3) Rabbit Maranville
        4) Jim Bottomley
        5) Burleigh Grimes
        6) Earle Combs
        7) Red Schoendienst
        8) George Kell
        9) Bruce Sutter
        10) Waite Hoyt

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        • #5
          1. Rabbit Maranville
          2. Bruce Sutter
          3. Dave Bancroft
          4. Catfish Hunter
          -----HOF Line------
          5. Jim Rice
          6. Joe Tinker
          7. Ray Schalk
          8. Red Schoendienst
          9. Earle Combs
          10. Harry Hooper

          Next in order:

          Herb Pennock
          Bill Mazeroski
          Heinie Manush
          Ross Youngs
          Burleigh Grimes
          Ben Taylor
          George Kell
          Waite Hoyt
          Jim Bottomley
          Jack Chesbro
          Lloyd Waner
          Tommy McCarthy
          Travis Jackson
          Jesse Haines
          Judy Johnson
          Rick Ferrell
          Andy Cooper
          Fred Lindstrom
          Rube Marquard
          Chick Hafey
          George Kelley

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          • #6
            1. Catfish Hunter
            2. Bruce Sutter
            3. Ben Taylor
            4. Joe Tinker
            5. Jim Bottomley
            6. Burleigh Grimes
            7. Dave Bancroft
            8. Jim Rice
            9. Rabbit Maranville
            10. Red Schoendist

            Next up: Manush, Hoyt

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            • #7
              1. Ben Taylor
              2. Bruce Sutter
              3. Dave Bancroft
              4. Travis Jackson
              5. Earle Combs
              6. Joe Tinker
              7. Ross Youngs
              8. Waite Hoyt
              9. Catfish Hunter
              10. Harry Hooper
              Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
              Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
              A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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              • #8
                1. Ben Taylor (10)
                2. Bruce Sutter (9)
                3. Joe Tinker (8)
                4. Rabbit Maranville (7)
                5. Dave Bancroft (6)
                6. Travis Jackson (5)
                7. Jim Rice (4)
                8. George Kell (3)
                9. Earle Combs (2)
                10. Red Schoendienst (1)
                Burleigh Grimes
                Harry Hooper
                Heinie Manush
                Herb Pennock
                Ross Youngs
                Catfish Hunter
                Bill Mazeroski
                Jim Bottomley
                Ray Schalk
                Chick Hafey
                Waite Hoyt
                Andy Cooper
                Freddie Lindstrom
                Jessie Haines
                Jack Chesbro
                Judy Johnson
                Rick Ferrell
                Lloyd Waner
                Rube Marquard
                George Kelly
                Tommy McCarthy
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                • #9
                  1. Heinie Manush
                  2. Dave Bancroft
                  3. Jim Rice
                  4. Joe Tinker
                  5. Red Schoendienst
                  6. Ben Taylor
                  7. George Kell
                  8. Ross Youngs
                  9. Catfish Hunter
                  10. Rabbit Maranville

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                  • #10
                    The three voters who have divulged the remainder of their list have many consensus picks for worst by position:

                    C - Rick Ferrell
                    1B - George Kelly
                    2B - Bill Mazeroski
                    SS - Travis Jackson
                    LF - Chick Hafey
                    CF - Lloyd Waner
                    RF - Tommy McCarthy

                    The only two spots where there is debate is between a Negro Leaguer and a MLB player. Could be worth a look see.

                    3B - Judy Johnson vs Freddie Lindstrom
                    P - Andy Cooper vs Rube Marquard

                    Anyone have reservations about this "worst team"?
                    Last edited by J W; 06-12-2012, 09:48 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by J W View Post
                      The three voters who have divulged the remainder of their list have many consensus picks for worst by position:

                      C - Rick Ferrell
                      1B - George Kelly
                      2B - Bill Mazeroski
                      SS - Travis Jackson
                      LF - Chick Hafey
                      CF - Lloyd Waner
                      RF - Tommy McCarthy

                      The only two spots where there is debate is between a Negro Leaguer and a MLB player. Could be worth a look see.

                      3B - Judy Johnson vs Freddie Lindstrom
                      P - Andy Cooper vs Rube Marquard

                      Anyone have reservations about this "worst team"?
                      I tend to prefer Ferrell over Schalk at C, but not enough to gripe over it. Schalk had the great defensive reputation, but was very mediocre at the plate and I think he got elected mostly for being a sympathetic figure amid the Black Sox. Ferrell seemed to be more well-rounded player, with decent offense (95 OPS+), a good defensive reputation in his own right, and was thought highly of when he played as evidenced by being selected to the first six All Star games plus two more at the very end of his career.

                      Otherwise I'm in complete agreement with you.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by J W View Post
                        The three voters who have divulged the remainder of their list have many consensus picks for worst by position:

                        C - Rick Ferrell
                        1B - George Kelly
                        2B - Bill Mazeroski
                        SS - Travis Jackson
                        LF - Chick Hafey
                        CF - Lloyd Waner
                        RF - Tommy McCarthy

                        The only two spots where there is debate is between a Negro Leaguer and a MLB player. Could be worth a look see.

                        3B - Judy Johnson vs Freddie Lindstrom
                        P - Andy Cooper vs Rube Marquard

                        Anyone have reservations about this "worst team"?
                        At third base, I go back and forth on Johnson and Lindstrom. Johnson had the better defensive reputation. Regardless, as bad as these players might be by HOF standards, if I were a manager, I would love to have a team with this level of talent for a season.

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