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  • jalbright
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    The contributors had only five ballots, and couldn't elect anyone (nobody had more than 3 votes, anyway). On the player side, we got a sixth vote, which was enough to get Ellis Kinder inducted. The results:

    6 Ellis Kinder
    = ==========
    5 Jimmy Collins
    5 Larry Gardner
    5 Dick Radatz
    5 Pete Runnels
    5 Tim Wakefield
    4 Frank Sullivan
    4 Jason Varitek
    3 Ellis Burks
    3 Mike Greenwell
    3 Jim Piersall
    3 Bob Stanley
    3 Mo Vaughan
    2 Rick Ferrell
    2 Dutch Leonard
    1 Rick Burleson
    1 Billy Goodman
    1 Frank Malzone
    1 Bill Monbouquette
    1 Everett Scott
    1 George Scott

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  • westsidegrounds
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    Ellis Kinder - Y
    Jimmy Piersall - Y
    Dick Radatz - Y
    Pete Runnels - Y
    Everett Scott _ Y

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  • jjpm74
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    I'm surprised there aren't more Red Sox fans on these boards.

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  • jalbright
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    The Sox have only five votes, inside of 13 hours from the close of voting. Since a minimum of six votes are needed to induct, there's a serious possibility no one will make it. If we got a sixth vote, there are candidates at five votes.

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  • Zito75
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    Players
    Ellis Burks-Y
    Rick Burleson-N
    Jimmy Collins-Y
    Rick Ferrell-N
    Larry Gardner-Y
    Billy Goodman-N
    Mike Greenwell-N
    Ellis Kinder-Y
    Dutch Leonard-N
    Frank Malzone-N
    Bill Monbouquette-N
    Jim Piersall-N
    Dick Radatz-Y
    Pete Runnels-Y
    Everett Scott-N
    George Scott-N
    Bob Stanley-N
    Frank Sullivan-Y
    Jason Varitek-Y
    Mo Vaughan-Y
    Tim Wakefield-Y

    Contributors
    Jimmy Collins-N
    Curt Gowdy-N
    Charles Somers-N

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  • dgarza
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    Players:

    Ellis Burks-Y
    Rick Burleson-Y
    Jimmy Collins-Y
    Rick Ferrell-Y
    Larry Gardner-Y
    Billy Goodman-Y
    Mike Greenwell-Y
    Ellis Kinder-Y
    Dutch Leonard-Y
    Frank Malzone-Y
    Bill Monbouquette-Y
    Jim Piersall-Y
    Dick Radatz-Y
    Pete Runnels-Y
    Everett Scott-N
    George Scott-Y
    Bob Stanley-Y
    Frank Sullivan-Y
    Jason Varitek-Y
    Mo Vaughan-Y
    Tim Wakefield-Y

    Contributors:

    Jimmy Collins-Y
    Curt Gowdy-Y
    Charles Somers-Y

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  • jjpm74
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    After looking Mo Vaughan closer, I have changed my Yes to a No.

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  • NJRob65
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    Players:

    Ellis Burks-N
    Rick Burleson-N
    Jimmy Collins-Y
    Rick Ferrell-N
    Larry Gardner-Y
    Billy Goodman-N
    Mike Greenwell-N
    Ellis Kinder-Y
    Dutch Leonard-Y
    Frank Malzone-N
    Bill Monboquette-N
    Jim Piersall-N
    Dick Radatz-N
    Pete Runnels-N
    Everett Scott-N
    George Scott-N
    Bob Stanley-N
    Frank Sullivan-N
    Jason Varitek-N
    Mo Vaughn-N
    Tim Wakefield-Y

    Contributors:

    Jimmy Collins-Y
    Curt Gowdy-N
    Charles Somers-N

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  • jjpm74
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    Players:

    Ellis Burks-Y
    Rick Burleson-N
    Jimmy Collins-Y
    Rick Ferrell-Y
    Larry Gardner-Y
    Billy Goodman-N
    Mike Greenwell-Y
    Ellis Kinder-Y
    Dutch Leonard-N
    Frank Malzone-N
    Bill Monbouquette-N
    Jim Piersall-Y
    Dick Radatz-Y
    Pete Runnels-Y
    Everett Scott-N
    George Scott-N
    Bob Stanley-Y
    Frank Sullivan-Y
    Jason Varitek-Y
    Mo Vaughan-N
    Tim Wakefield-Y

    Contributors:

    Jimmy Collins-N
    Curt Gowdy-N
    Charles Somers-N
    Last edited by jjpm74; 06-16-2012, 01:47 PM.

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  • jalbright
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    This election is now open.

    My ballot

    Players
    Ellis Burks-N
    Rick Burleson-N
    Jimmy Collins-Y
    Rick Ferrell-N
    Larry Gardner-Y
    Billy Goodman-N
    Mike Greenwell-Y
    Ellis Kinder-Y
    Dutch Leonard-N
    Frank Malzone-N
    Bill Monbouquette-N
    Jim Piersall-N
    Dick Radatz-Y
    Pete Runnels-Y
    Everett Scott-N
    George Scott-N
    Bob Stanley-Y
    Frank Sullivan-Y
    Jason Varitek-Y
    Mo Vaughan-Y
    Tim Wakefield-Y

    Contributors
    Jimmy Collins-Y
    Curt Gowdy-N
    Charles Somers-N

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  • jalbright
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    No second for Ban Johnson, so he's not on the ballot.

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  • jalbright
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    The nominations are closed, though we have to resolve if Johnson will be on the ballot or not.

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  • dgarza
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    Dutch Leonard
    A pretty good pitcher, Leonard is most remembered for his unlikely 1914 season:
    19-5 = .792
    0.886 WHIP
    0.96 ERA
    279 ERA+
    9.0 pWAR
    This holds the major league modern-era record for the lowest single-season ERA of all time and 2nd highest ERA+.

    90-64 = .584
    1.136 WHIP
    129 ERA+
    25.7 pWAR

    Leonard's postseason record is short, but impressive.
    Playing only 2 games in 2 series, both were complete games with an ERA of 1.00
    Code:
                                                               
    Year   Series Rslt Opp W L  W-L%  ERA G GS CG   IP SO  WHIP
    1915       WS    W PHI 1 0 1.000 1.00 1  1  1  9.0  6 0.333
    1916       WS    W BRO 1 0 1.000 1.00 1  1  1  9.0  3 1.000
    2 WS                   2 0 1.000 1.00 2  2  2 18.0  9 0.667
    Earned Run Average
    1914 AL 0.96 (1st)

    Walks & Hits per IP
    1914 AL 0.886 (1st)

    Hits per 9 IP
    1914 AL 5.568 (1st)
    1915 AL 6.382 (1st)

    Strikeouts per 9 IP
    1914 AL 7.050 (1st)
    1915 AL 5.695 (1st)

    Home Runs per 9 IP
    1913 AL 0.000 (1st)

    Adjusted ERA+
    1914 AL 279 (1st)

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  • dgarza
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    Larry Gardner
    .282/.350/.377
    115 OPS+
    27.9 WAR

    Gardner was considered a good defensive 3B, plus he was one of the best hitting 3B the AL has seen at the time.
    Code:
                                           
    Rk           Player OPS+    G From   To
    1    Home Run Baker  146 1145 1908 1917
    2     Jimmy Collins  116  955 1901 1908
    3     Larry Gardner  115 1123 1908 1917
    4      Bill Bradley  111 1231 1901 1910
    5        Harry Lord  106  875 1907 1914
    6        Lave Cross  106  847 1901 1907

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  • dgarza
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    Rick Ferrell
    Ferrell was most productive during his Boston years

    .302/.394/.410
    103 OPS+

    His OBP is tied 8th All Time Red Sox
    Code:
                                          
    Rk          Player  OBP    G From   To
    1     Ted Williams .482 2292 1939 1960
    2      Jimmie Foxx .429  887 1936 1942
    3       Wade Boggs .428 1625 1982 1992
    4     Tris Speaker .414 1065 1907 1915
    5    Manny Ramirez .411 1083 2001 2008
    6     Pete Runnels .408  732 1958 1962
    7     Johnny Pesky .401 1029 1942 1952
    8        Mo Vaughn .394 1046 1991 1998
    9       Joe Cronin .394 1134 1935 1945
    10    Rick Ferrell .394  522 1933 1937

    All-Star Games
    1933 (C)
    1934
    1935
    1936 (C)

    Putouts as C
    1934 AL 531 (1st)
    1936 AL 556 (1st)

    Assists as C
    1933 AL 92 (1st)

    Caught Stealing as C
    1933 AL 55 (1st)
    1935 AL 50 (1st)

    Caught Stealing %
    1935 AL 58.8 (1st)

    Fielding % as C
    1934 AL .990 (1st)

    Selected to HOF in 1984 by Veteran's Committee

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