Does being acquitted help him get into the HOF? Perhaps sooner? Or does it not make a difference?
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He's better off, at least a little, than if he had been convicted. However, at least for the immediate future, he's been more damaged by the increased exposure provided by the trials.Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.
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It helps him a lot, but he won't get in first ballot.
The public has already associated his name with steroids, and that may follow him forever.
Perhaps over time, people will give him a break.
People have eased up on Alex Rodriguez, who they know used PEDs; why can't they do that with Clemens?
At least he has a fighting chance at getting into Cooperstown now. Good for him.
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I voted that he will get in at some point, but not on the first ballot. I think in the court of public opinion (and sports writers), which has a MUCH lower burden of proof than criminal court, he is guilty to at least some degree. Even though Bonds was acquitted on the "injection" charges, there are similar doubts of his innocense. Heck, there's probably even one or two stubborn folks out there that have doubts about OJ even though he was acquitted....
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Originally posted by redban View PostPeople have eased up on Alex Rodriguez, who they know used PEDs; why can't they do that with Clemens?
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He was acquitted of perjury. That doesn't erase the doubt in most people's minds. The steroid issue, itself, wasn't exactly rectified.
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Originally posted by CTaka View PostMaybe he'll wait as long as Shoeless Joe Jackson did....or is still waiting. He was acquitted as well, correct?Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.
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Originally posted by jalbright View PostWell. Joe did have an affidavit under oath which conceded he was part of the fix, and it was always clear he took money from the conspirators. As bad as juicing is, it's an attempt to win the game--Joe took money that was involved in seeing that his team intentionally lost the World Series. Juicing in criminal terms might be something like armed robbery, though it is interesting to note many of the years it was done, the baseball penalties for it were more like jaywalking fines, if that. What Jackson did, though, is like premeditated murder. I doubt Clemens makes it in year one, but his Boston years were enough to support a HOF case, and I expect in time that fact will get him in. I won't hazard a guess as to how quickly that will happen until we see some BBWAA voting numbers, though.
clemens was acquited because there is very little evidence beyond the testimony of Brian McNamee who is no better than Clemens.
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Originally posted by Steven Gallanter View PostBingo! Joe Jackspon was cheating to lose. BBF posters know of my relatively lax attitude towards the so-called "steroid era". I have used steroids obtained from a MD. In all of the postings done about steroids not 1 person has said that they have used them and is thus qualified to comment on their personal experience.
clemens was acquited because there is very little evidence beyond the testimony of Brian McNamee who is no better than Clemens.Last edited by ol' aches and pains; 06-20-2012, 10:26 AM.They call me Mr. Baseball. Not because of my love for the game; because of all the stitches in my head.
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