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  • Ranking the HoF Players: 226-236 (Final Election)

    Project Summary: To rank the worthiness of the players inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame from most worthy to least worthy.

    Election Format: Voters are to submit ballots ranking their 10 most worthy remaining Hall of Fame players in order of worthiness. Each first place vote will be worth 10 points, with each successive rank being worth one point less than the previous rank, ending in a tenth place vote being worth 1 point. Players will also receive one additional point for each ballot they are listed on and players must be listed on at least three ballots in order to be elected. The five players with the highest support at the end of each election will be elected in the order of their support. Elections will last approximately seven days.
    - Tiebreakers: Tiebreakers at the end of an election will be decided in the following order: 1) Total ballot appearances in that election; 2) Total points in that election irrespective of number of ballots; 3) Number of first place votes in that election; 4) Finish in previous election. Players that lose a tiebreaker for the fifth spot in an election will be voted in as the sixth player in that election, with the next election to elect just four players.

    Factors to Consider: As this project focuses on players inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame, subjective qualities beyond just statistics should be taken into consideration in determining a player's relative worthiness. In that vein, the voting guidelines that the BBWAA is to follow in actual National Baseball Hall of Fame elections, may be instructive (though not necessarily determinative in this project): "Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played."

    Player Eligibility: Only players that have been elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame as players are eligible, including Negro League players and 19th Century players. A complete list of individuals that have been inducted as players is available at the National Baseball Hall of Fame's website, and is recreated below along with each player's corresponding BBF Rank as determined by this project:

    Results
    1) Babe Ruth
    2) Willie Mays
    3) Ty Cobb
    4) Ted Williams
    5) Hank Aaron
    6) Honus Wagner
    7) Walter Johnson
    8) Lou Gehrig
    9) Cy Young
    10) Stan Musial
    11) Mickey Mantle
    12) Rogers Hornsby
    13) Jackie Robinson
    14) Tris Speaker
    15) Josh Gibson
    16) Eddie Collins
    17) Satchel Paige
    18) Grover Alexander
    19) Frank Robinson
    20) Joe DiMaggio
    21) Oscar Charleston
    22) Mike Schmidt
    23) Lefty Grove
    24) Tom Seaver
    25) Cap Anson
    26) Christy Mathewson
    27) Rickey Henderson
    28) Jimmie Foxx
    29) Nap Lajoie
    30) Joe Morgan
    31) Johnny Bench
    32) Mel Ott
    33) Warren Spahn
    34) Yogi Berra
    35) Cal Ripken
    36) George Brett
    37) Pop Lloyd
    38) Kid Nichols
    39) Eddie Mathews
    40) Bob Feller
    41) Roberto Clemente
    42) Bob Gibson
    43) Joe Williams
    44) Carl Yastrzemski
    45) Hank Greenberg
    46) Dan Brouthers
    47) Steve Carlton
    48) Sandy Koufax
    49) Ed Delahanty
    50) Johnny Mize
    51) Al Kaline
    52) Turkey Stearnes
    53) Wade Boggs
    54) Charlie Gehringer
    55) Mickey Cochrane
    56) Reggie Jackson
    57) Arky Vaughan
    58) Roger Connor
    59) Nolan Ryan
    ---Top 25% Cutoff---
    60) Robin Yount
    61) Rod Carew
    62) Tony Gwynn
    63) Carl Hubbell
    64) Roy Campanella
    65) Ernie Banks
    66) Sam Crawford
    67) Duke Snider
    68) George Davis
    69) King Kelly
    70) John Ward
    71) Eddie Murray
    72) Bullet Rogan
    73) Harmon Killebrew
    74) Buck Ewing
    75) Billy Hamilton
    76) Gaylord Perry
    77) Carlton Fisk
    78) Paul Waner
    79) Juan Marichal
    80) Al Simmons
    81) John Clarkson
    82) Martin Dihigo
    83) Robin Roberts
    84) Willie McCovey
    85) Frankie Frisch
    86) Phil Niekro
    87) Eddie Plank
    88) Gary Carter
    89) Whitey Ford
    90) Tim Keefe
    91) Mordecai Brown
    92) Luke Appling
    93) Brooks Robinson
    94) Ferguson Jenkins
    95) Willie Stargell
    96) Frank Baker
    97) Jim Palmer
    98) Joe Cronin
    99) Bill Dickey
    100) Jesse Burkett
    101) Harry Heilmann
    102) Fred Clarke
    103) Buck Leonard
    104) Hoyt Wilhelm
    105) Ed Walsh
    106) Bert Blyleven
    107) Barry Larkin
    108) Gabby Hartnett
    109) Dave Winfield
    110) George Sisler
    111) Mule Suttles
    112) Joe Medwick
    113) Jim O'Rourke
    114) Jud Wilson
    115) Ozzie Smith
    116) Paul Molitor
    117) Charles Radbourn
    118) Monte Irvin
    ---Top 50% Cutoff---
    119) Ryne Sandberg
    120) Roberto Alomar
    121) Ron Santo
    122) Billy Williams
    123) Willie Keeler
    124) Willie Wells
    125) Cristobal Torriente
    126) Dennis Eckersley
    127) Zack Wheat
    128) Larry Doby
    129) Amos Rusie
    130) Goose Goslin
    131) Bill Terry
    132) Don Drysdale
    133) Dizzy Dean
    134) Lou Brock
    135) Rube Waddell
    136) Cool Papa Bell
    137) Hal Newhouser
    138) Joe Gordon
    139) Kirby Puckett
    140) Lou Boudreau
    141) Ralph Kiner
    142) Rich Gossage
    143) Dazzy Vance
    144) Pee Wee Reese
    145) Sam Thompson
    146) Pud Galvin
    147) Billy Herman
    148) Biz Mackey
    149) Louis Santop
    150) Early Wynn
    151) Stan Coveleski
    152) Edd Roush
    153) Don Sutton
    154) Ted Lyons
    155) Frank Chance
    156) Max Carey
    157) Jimmy Collins
    158) Earl Averill
    159) Richie Ashburn
    160) Andre Dawson
    161) Bobby Doerr
    162) Pie Traynor
    163) Elmer Flick
    164) Joe McGinnity
    165) Joe Kelley
    166) Roger Bresnahan
    167) Jim Bunning
    168) Ray Brown
    169) Red Ruffing
    170) Bid McPhee
    171) Bobby Wallace
    172) Orlando Cepeda
    173) Hugh Jennings
    174) Willard Brown
    175) Enos Slaughter
    176) Bob Lemon
    177) Hugh Duffy
    ---Top 75% Cutoff---
    178) Jake Beckley
    179) Pete Hill
    180) Mickey Welch
    181) Red Faber
    182) Addie Joss
    183) Ray Dandridge
    184) Bill Foster
    185) Sam Rice
    186) Frank Grant
    187) Nellie Fox
    188) Joe Sewell
    189) Hilton Smith
    190) Chuck Klein
    191) Phil Rizzuto
    192) Luis Aparicio
    193) Jose Mendez
    194) Lefty Gomez
    195) Tony Perez
    196) Vic Willis
    197) Kiki Cuyler
    198) Rollie Fingers
    199) Eppa Rixey
    200) Hack Wilson
    201) Johnny Evers
    202) Tony Lazzeri
    203) Ernie Lombardi
    204) Leon Day
    205) Chief Bender
    206) Rabbit Maranville
    207) Jim Rice
    208) Dave Bancroft
    209) Joe Tinker
    210) Bruce Sutter
    211) Heinie Manush
    212) Red Schoendienst
    213) Catfish Hunter
    214) Burleigh Grimes
    215) Earle Combs
    216) Harry Hooper
    217) Waite Hoyt
    218) Ben Taylor
    219) Jim Bottomley
    220) George Kell
    221) Herb Pennock
    222) Jack Chesbro
    223) Ross Youngs
    224) Bill Mazeroski
    225) Travis Jackson

    Master List
    Code:
    [B][U]Player				BBF Rank[/U][/B]
    Hank Aaron			5
    Grover Alexander		18
    Roberto Alomar			120
    Cap Anson			25
    Luis Aparicio			192
    Luke Appling			92
    Richie Ashburn			159
    Earl Averill			158
    Frank Baker			96
    Dave Bancroft			208
    Ernie Banks			65
    Jake Beckley			178
    Cool Papa Bell			136
    Johnny Bench			31
    Chief Bender			205
    Yogi Berra			34
    Bert Blyleven			106
    Wade Boggs			53
    Jim Bottomley			219
    Lou Boudreau			140
    Roger Bresnahan			166
    George Brett			36
    Lou Brock			134
    Dan Brouthers			46
    Mordecai Brown			91
    Ray Brown			168
    Willard Brown			174
    Jim Bunning			167
    Jesse Burkett			100
    Roy Campanella			64
    Rod Carew			61
    Max Carey			156
    Steve Carlton			47
    Gary Carter			88
    Orlando Cepeda			172
    Frank Chance			155
    Oscar Charleston		21
    Jack Chesbro			222
    Fred Clarke			102
    John Clarkson			81
    Roberto Clemente		41
    Ty Cobb				3
    Mickey Cochrane			55
    Eddie Collins			16
    Jimmy Collins			157
    Earle Combs			215
    Roger Connor			58
    Andy Cooper
    Stan Coveleski			151
    Sam Crawford			66
    Joe Cronin			98
    Kiki Cuyler			197
    Ray Dandridge			183
    George Davis			68
    Andre Dawson			160
    Leon Day			204
    Dizzy Dean			133
    Ed Delahanty			49
    Bill Dickey			99
    Martin Dihigo			82
    Joe DiMaggio			20
    Larry Doby			128
    Bobby Doerr			161
    Don Drysdale			132
    Hugh Duffy			177
    Dennis Eckersley		126
    Johnny Evers			201
    Buck Ewing			74
    Red Faber			181
    Bob Feller			40
    Rick Ferrell
    Rollie Fingers			198
    Carlton Fisk			77
    Elmer Flick			163
    Whitey Ford			89
    Bill Foster			184
    Nellie Fox			187
    Jimmie Foxx			28
    Frankie Frisch			85
    Pud Galvin			146
    Lou Gehrig			8
    Charlie Gehringer		54
    Bob Gibson			42
    Josh Gibson			15
    Lefty Gomez			194
    Joe Gordon			138
    Goose Goslin			130
    Rich Gossage			142
    Frank Grant			186
    Hank Greenberg			45
    Burleigh Grimes			214
    Lefty Grove			23
    Tony Gwynn			62
    Chick Hafey
    Jesse Haines
    Billy Hamilton			75
    Gabby Hartnett			108
    Harry Heilmann			101
    Rickey Henderson		27
    Billy Herman			147
    Pete Hill			179
    Harry Hooper			216
    Rogers Hornsby			12
    Waite Hoyt			217
    Carl Hubbell			63
    Catfish Hunter			213
    Monte Irvin			118
    Reggie Jackson			56
    Travis Jackson			225
    Ferguson Jenkins		94
    Hugh Jennings			173
    Judy Johnson
    Walter Johnson			7
    Addie Joss			182
    Al Kaline			51
    Tim Keefe			90
    Willie Keeler			123
    George Kell			220
    Joe Kelley			165
    George Kelly
    King Kelly			69
    Harmon Killebrew		73
    Ralph Kiner			141
    Chuck Klein			190
    Sandy Koufax			48
    Nap Lajoie			29
    Barry Larkin			107
    Tony Lazzeri			202
    Bob Lemon			176
    Buck Leonard			103
    Freddie Lindstrom
    Pop Lloyd			37
    Ernie Lombardi			203
    Ted Lyons			154
    Biz Mackey			148
    Mickey Mantle			11
    Heinie Manush			211
    Rabbit Maranville		206
    Juan Marichal			79
    Rube Marquard
    Eddie Mathews			39
    Christy Mathewson		26
    Willie Mays			2
    Bill Mazeroski			224
    Tommy McCarthy
    Willie McCovey			84
    Joe McGinnity			164
    Bid McPhee			170
    Joe Medwick			112
    Jose Mendez			193
    Johnny Mize			50
    Paul Molitor			116
    Joe Morgan			30
    Eddie Murray			71
    Stan Musial			10
    Hal Newhouser			137
    Kid Nichols			38
    Phil Niekro			86
    Jim O’Rourke			113
    Mel Ott				32
    Satchel Paige			17
    Jim Palmer			97
    Herb Pennock			221
    Tony Perez			195
    Gaylord Perry			76
    Eddie Plank			87
    Kirby Puckett			139
    Charles Radbourn		117
    Pee Wee Reese			144
    Jim Rice			207
    Sam Rice			185
    Cal Ripken			35
    Eppa Rixey			199
    Phil Rizzuto			191
    Robin Roberts			83
    Brooks Robinson			93
    Frank Robinson			19
    Jackie Robinson			13
    Bullet Rogan			72
    Edd Roush			152
    Red Ruffing			169
    Amos Rusie			129
    Babe Ruth			1
    Nolan Ryan			59
    Ryne Sandberg			119
    Ron Santo			121
    Louis Santop			149
    Ray Schalk
    Mike Schmidt			22
    Red Schoendienst		212
    Tom Seaver			24
    Joe Sewell			188
    Al Simmons			80
    George Sisler			110
    Enos Slaughter			175
    Hilton Smith			190
    Ozzie Smith			115
    Duke Snider			67
    Warren Spahn			33
    Tris Speaker			14
    Willie Stargell			95
    Turkey Stearnes			52
    Bruce Sutter			210
    Mule Suttles			111
    Don Sutton			153
    Ben Taylor			218
    Bill Terry			131
    Sam Thompson			145
    Joe Tinker			209
    Cristobal Torriente		125
    Pie Traynor			162
    Dazzy Vance			143
    Arky Vaughan			57
    Rube Waddell			135
    Honus Wagner			6
    Bobby Wallace			171
    Ed Walsh			105
    Lloyd Waner
    Paul Waner			78
    John Ward			70
    Mickey Welch			180
    Willie Wells			124
    Zack Wheat			127
    Hoyt Wilhelm			104
    Billy Williams			122
    Joe Williams			43
    Ted Williams			4
    Vic Willis			196
    Hack Wilson			200
    Jud Wilson			114
    Dave Winfield			109
    Early Wynn			150
    Carl Yastrzemski		44
    Cy Young			9
    Ross Youngs			223
    Robin Yount			60
    Ranking by Primary Position
    Catcher (14): Josh Gibson (15), Johnny Bench (31), Yogi Berra (34), Mickey Cochrane (55), Roy Campanella (64), Buck Ewing (74), Carlton Fisk (77), Gary Carter (88), Bill Dickey (99), Gabby Hartnett (108), Biz Mackey (148), Louis Santop (149), Roger Bresnahan (166), Ernie Lombardi (203)

    First Base (20): Lou Gehrig (8), Cap Anson (25), Jimmie Foxx (28), Hank Greenberg (45), Dan Brouthers (46), Johnny Mize (50), Roger Connor (58), Eddie Murray (71), Harmon Killebrew (73), Willie McCovey (84), Buck Leonard (103), George Sisler (110), Mule Suttles (111), Bill Terry (131), Frank Chance (155), Orlando Cepeda (172), Jake Beckley (178), Tony Perez (195), Ben Taylor (218), Jim Bottomley (219)

    Second Base (20): Rogers Hornsby (12), Jackie Robinson (13), Eddie Collins (16), Nap Lajoie (29), Joe Morgan (30), Charlie Gehringer (54), Rod Carew (61), Frankie Frisch (85), Ryne Sandberg (119), Roberto Alomar (120), Joe Gordon (138), Billy Herman (147), Bobby Doerr (161), Bid McPhee (170), Frank Grant (186), Nellie Fox (187), Johnny Evers (201), Tony Lazzeri (202), Red Schoendienst (212), Bill Mazeroski (224)

    Shortstop (24): Honus Wagner (6), Cal Ripken (35), Pop Lloyd (37), Arky Vaughan (57), Robin Yount (60), Ernie Banks (65), George Davis (68), John Ward (70), Luke Appling (92), Joe Cronin (98), Barry Larkin (107), Ozzie Smith (115), Willie Wells (124), Lou Boudreau (140), Pee Wee Reese (144), Bobby Wallace (171), Hugh Jennings (173), Joe Sewell (188), Phil Rizzuto (191), Luis Aparicio (192), Rabbit Maranville (206), Dave Bancroft (208), Joe Tinker (209), Travis Jackson (225)

    Third Base (13): Mike Schmidt (22), George Brett (36), Eddie Mathews (39), Wade Boggs (53), Brooks Robinson (93), Frank Baker (96), Jud Wilson (114), Paul Molitor (116), Ron Santo (121), Jimmy Collins (157), Pie Traynor (162), Ray Dandridge (183), George Kell (220)

    Left Field (21): Ted Williams (4), Stan Musial (10), Rickey Henderson (27), Carl Yastrzemski (44), Ed Delahanty (49), Al Simmons (80), Willie Stargell (95), Jesse Burkett (100), Fred Clarke (102), Joe Medwick (112), Jim O'Rourke (113), Monte Irvin (118), Billy Williams (122), Zack Wheat (127), Goose Goslin (130), Lou Brock (134), Ralph Kiner (141), Joe Kelley (165), Jim Rice (207), Heinie Manush (211), Harry Hooper (216)

    Center Field (22): Willie Mays (2), Ty Cobb (3), Mickey Mantle (11), Tris Speaker (14), Joe DiMaggio (20), Oscar Charleston (21), Turkey Stearnes (52), Duke Snider (67), Billy Hamilton (75), Cristobal Torriente (125), Larry Doby (128), Cool Papa Bell (136), Kirby Puckett (139), Edd Roush (152), Max Carey (156), Earl Averill (158), Richie Ashburn (159), Willard Brown (174), Hugh Duffy (177), Pete Hill (179), Hack Wilson (200), Earle Combs (215)

    Right Field (22): Babe Ruth (1), Hank Aaron (5), Frank Robinson (19), Mel Ott (32), Roberto Clemente (41), Al Kaline (51), Reggie Jackson (56), Tony Gwynn (62), Sam Crawford (66), King Kelly (69), Paul Waner (78), Harry Heilmann (101), Dave Winfield (109), Willie Keeler (123), Sam Thompson (145), Andre Dawson (160), Elmer Flick (163), Enos Slaughter (175), Sam Rice (185), Chuck Klein (190), Kiki Cuyler (197), Ross Youngs (223)

    Pitcher (69): Walter Johnson (7), Cy Young (9), Satchel Paige (17), Grover Alexander (18), Lefty Grove (23), Tom Seaver (24), Christy Mathewson (26), Warren Spahn (33), Kid Nichols (38), Bob Feller (40), Bob Gibson (42), Joe Williams (43), Steve Carlton (47), Sandy Koufax (48), Nolan Ryan (59), Carl Hubbell (63), Bullet Rogan (72), Gaylord Perry (76), Juan Marichal (79), John Clarkson (81), Martin Dihigo (82), Robin Roberts (83), Phil Niekro (86), Eddie Plank (87), Whitey Ford (89), Tim Keefe (90), Mordecai Brown (91), Ferguson Jenkins (94), Jim Palmer (97), Hoyt Wilhelm (104), Ed Walsh (105), Bert Blyleven (106), Charles Radbourn (117), Dennis Eckersley (126), Amos Rusie (129), Don Drysdale (132), Dizzy Dean (133), Rube Waddell (135), Hal Newhouser (137), Rich Gossage (142), Dazzy Vance (143), Pud Galvin (146), Early Wynn (150), Stan Coveleski (151), Don Sutton (153), Ted Lyons (154), Joe McGinnity (164), Jim Bunning (167), Ray Brown (168), Red Ruffing (169), Bob Lemon (176), Mickey Welch (180), Red Faber (181), Addie Joss (182), Bill Foster (184), Hilton Smith (189), Jose Mendez (193), Left Gomez (194), Vic Willis (196), Rollie Fingers (198), Eppa Rixey (199), Leon Day (204), Chief Bender (205), Bruce Sutter (210), Catfish Hunter (213), Burleigh Grimes (214), Waite Hoyt (217), Herb Pennock (221), Jack Chesbro (222)

    Ranking by Primary Decade
    1880s (12): Cap Anson (25), Dan Brouthers (46), Roger Connor (58), King Kelly (69), John Ward (70), Buck Ewing (74), John Clarkson (81), Tim Keefe (90), Jim O'Rourke (113), Charles Radbourn (117), Pud Galvin (146), Mickey Welch (180)

    1890s (15): Cy Young (9), Kid Nichols (38), Ed Delahanty (49), George Davis (68), Billy Hamilton (75), Jesse Burkett (100), Willie Keeler (123), Amos Rusie (129), Sam Thompson (145), Joe Kelley (165), Bid McPhee (171), Hugh Jennings (173), Hugh Duffy (177), Jake Beckley (178), Frank Grant (186)

    1900s (20): Honus Wagner (6), Christy Mathewson (26), Nap Lajoie (29), Sam Crawford (66), Eddie Plank (87), Mordecai Brown (91), Fred Clarke (102), Rube Waddell (135), Frank Chance (155), Jimmy Collins (157), Elmer Flick (163), Joe McGinnity (164), Roger Bresnahan (166), Bobby Wallace (170), Addie Joss (182), Vic Willis (196), Johnny Evers (201), Chief Bender (205), Joe Tinker (209), Jack Chesbro (222)

    1910s (15): Ty Cobb (3), Walter Johnson (7), Tris Speaker (14), Eddie Collins (16), Grover Alexander (18), Pop Lloyd (37), Joe Williams (43), Frank Baker (96), Ed Walsh (105), Zack Wheat (127), Louis Santop (149), Max Carey (156), Pete Hill (179), Jose Mendez (193), Harry Hooper (216), Ben Taylor (218)

    1920s (30): Babe Ruth (1), Rogers Hornsby (12), Oscar Charleston (21), Turkey Stearnes (52), Bullet Rogan (72), Frankie Frisch (85), Harry Heilmann (101), George Sisler (110), Cristobal Torriente (125), Goose Goslin (130), Dazzy Vance (143), Biz Mackey (148), Stan Coveleski (151), Edd Roush (152), Pie Traynor (162), Red Faber (181), Sam Rice (185), Joe Sewell (188), Eppa Rixey (199), Hack Wilson (200), Rabbit Maranville (206), Dave Bancroft (208), Heinie Manush (211), Burleigh Grimes (214), Earle Combs (215), Waite Hoyt (217), Jim Bottomley (219), Herb Pennock (221), Ross Youngs (223), Travis Jackson (225)

    1930s (36): Lou Gehrig (8), Josh Gibson (15), Satchel Paige (17), Lefty Grove (23), Jimmie Foxx (28), Mel Ott (32), Hank Greenberg (45), Charlie Gehringer (54), Mickey Cochrane (55), Arky Vaughan (57), Carl Hubbell (63), Paul Waner (78), Al Simmons (80), Martin Dihigo (82), Joe Cronin (98), Bill Dickey (99), Gabby Hartnett (108), Mule Suttles (111), Joe Medwick (112), Jud Wilson (114), Willie Wells (124), Bill Terry (131), Dizzy Dean (133), Cool Papa Bell (136), Billy Herman (147), Ted Lyons (154), Earl Averill (158), Ray Brown (168), Red Ruffing (169), Bill Foster (184), Hilton Smith (189), Chuck Klein (190), Lefty Gomez (194), Kiki Cuyler (197), Tony Lazzeri (202), Ernie Lombardi (203)

    1940s (18): Ted Williams (4), Stan Musial (10), Joe DiMaggio (20), Bob Feller (40), Johnny Mize (50), Luke Appling (92), Buck Leonard (103), Monte Irvin (118), Hal Newhouser (137), Joe Gordon (138), Lou Boudreau (140), Pee Wee Reese (144), Bobby Doerr (161), Willard Brown (174), Enos Slaughter (175), Ray Dandridge (183), Phil Rizzuto (191), Leon Day (204)

    1950s (17): Mickey Mantle (11), Jackie Robinson (13), Warren Spahn (33), Yogi Berra (34), Eddie Mathews (39), Roy Campanella (64), Duke Snider (67), Robin Roberts (83), Whitey Ford (89), Larry Doby (128), Ralph Kiner (141), Early Wynn (150), Richie Ashburn (159), Bob Lemon (176), Nellie Fox (187), Red Schoendienst (212), George Kell (220)

    1960s (20): Willie Mays (2), Hank Aaron (5), Frank Robinson (19), Roberto Clemente (41), Bob Gibson (42), Sandy Koufax (48), Al Kaline (51), Ernie Banks (65), Harmon Killebrew (73), Juan Marichal (79), Willie McCovey (84), Brooks Robinson (93), Hoyt Wilhelm (104), Ron Santo (121), Billy Williams (122), Don Drysdale (132), Jim Bunning (167), Orlando Cepeda (172), Luis Aparicio (192), Bill Mazeroski (224)

    1970s (20): Tom Seaver (24), Joe Morgan (30), Johnny Bench (31), Carl Yastrzemski (44), Steve Carlton (47), Reggie Jackson (56), Nolan Ryan (59), Rod Carew (61), Gaylord Perry (76), Carlton Fisk (77), Phil Niekro (86), Ferguson Jenkins (94), Willie Stargell (95), Jim Palmer (97), Bert Blyleven (106), Lou Brock (134), Don Sutton (153), Tony Perez (195), Rollie Fingers (198), Catfish Hunter (213)

    1980s (17): Mike Schmidt (22), Rickey Henderson (27), Cal Ripken (35), George Brett (36), Wade Boggs (53), Robin Yount (60), Tony Gwynn (62), Eddie Murray (71), Gary Carter (88), Dave Winfield (109), Ozzie Smith (115), Paul Molitor (116), Ryne Sandberg (119), Dennis Eckersley (126), Rich Gossage (142), Jim Rice (207), Bruce Sutter (210)

    1990s (3): Barry Larkin (107), Roberto Alomar (120), Kirby Puckett (139)

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  • #2
    1. Andy Cooper
    2. Rube Marquard
    3. Ray Schalk
    4. Fred Lindstrom
    5. Lloyd Waner
    6. Haines
    7. McCarthy
    8. Kelly
    9. Hafey
    10. Johnson

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    • #3
      1) Lloyd Waner
      2) Chick Hafey
      3) Freddie Lindstrom
      4) Judy Johnson
      5) Ray Schalk
      6) Rick Ferrell
      7) Rube Marquard
      8) Jesse Haines
      9) George Kelly
      10) Tommy McCarthy

      Cooper

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      • #4
        It's been a long time coming, but this will be the final election in the project. Please list your top 10 remaining players (there's only 11 left) as you normally would. We'll elect the top 10 instead of 5 this time, and obviously the 11th player by default gets the dubious distinction of being our least worthy Hall of Famer.

        After this ends, I may take a week or two, but intend to start from the beginning but this time in considering the worthiness of all players from 1 to 236 (or more, depending on the number elected in January).

        1) Rick Ferrell - 10
        2) Jesse Haines - 9
        3) Ray Schalk - 8
        4) Judy Johnson - 7
        5) Chick Hafey - 6
        6) Freddie Lindstrom - 5
        7) Lloyd Waner - 4
        8) Andy Cooper - 3
        9) Rube Marquard - 2
        10) Tommy McCarthy - 1

        11) George Kelly

        Separating McCarthy from Kelly was probably the hardest division for me in this project. They both should have the ignominious distinction of being last, but only one can truly be last. I originally had McCarthy penciled in as no. 236 as I see Kelly as the better player, but McCarthy, for seems to have a little more historical notoriety, such that the VC felt it was appropriate to elect McCarthy way back in 1946 among several other "old timers." (Interestingly, baseball-reference.com lists Clark Griffith as having been elected as a player by the old timers committee, but the Hall of Fame website lists him as an executive). McCarthy also gets some credit for innovating the hit and run. All told, it was enough notoriety for me to put him, a mediocre LFer slightly ahead of Kelly, a mediocre 1Bman.

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        • #5
          1. Ray Schalk
          2. Lloyd Waner
          3. Tommy McCarthy
          4. Jesse Haines
          5. Judy Johnson
          6. Rick Ferrell
          7. Andy Cooper
          8. Fred Lindstrom
          9. Rube Marquard
          10. Chick Hafey

          Next in order:

          George Kelly

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          • #6
            1. Ray Schalk (10)
            2. Chick Hafey (9)
            3. Andy Cooper (8)
            4. Freddie Lindstrom (7)
            5. Jessie Haines (6)
            6. Judy Johnson (5)
            7. Rick Ferrell (4)
            8. Lloyd Waner (3)
            9. Rube Marquard (2)
            10. George Kelly (1)

            ...and Tommy McCarthy is the guy who misses out on my vote.
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            • #7
              1. Lloyd Waner
              2. Andy Cooper
              3. Judy Johnson
              4. Freddie Lindstrom
              5. Rube Marquard
              6. Chick Hafey
              7. Rick Ferrell
              8. Ray Schalk
              9. Jesse Haines
              10. George Kelly

              11. Tommy McCarthy

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              • #8
                1. Ray Schalk
                2. Andy Cooper
                3. Chick Hafey
                4. Judy Johnson
                5. Freddie Lindstrom
                6. Lloyd Waner
                7. Rube Marquard
                8. Rick Ferrell
                9. Jessie Haines
                10. Tommy McCarthy

                George Kelly doesn't make the cut.

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                • #9
                  Scrape, scrape, scrape

                  1. Andy Cooper
                  2. Chick Hafey
                  3. Fred Lindstrom
                  4. Tommy McCarthy
                  5. Judy Johnson
                  6. George Kelly
                  7. Rube Marquard
                  8. Jesse Haines
                  9. Lloyd Waner
                  10. Ray Schalk

                  11. Rick Ferrell

                  Man, what you find at the bottom of a barrel
                  Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                  Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                  A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                  • #10
                    I like this part (from around player #180 on) more too, but for a different reason: I like validating these guys as good players and giving them a bit of a bone. None of these guys were scrubs but it sounds like it sometimes as I've read about it. Sifting out the merits of the worst HoF selections intrigues me.
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                    • #11
                      Don't forget that when McCarthy was voted in the voters did not have any real idea of his stats. It was all anecdotal then.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SavoyBG
                        Clearly someone there was pushing for McCarthy and was able to convince enough of the other voters. Could easily have been nepotism too....some friend of McCarthy's maybe, although nepotism is not the right word here, as in order for it to be "nepotism" Frisch would had to have been a relative of Kelly. I just looked the word up. It means favortism given to a relative.
                        The correct term is cronyism. So what? It essentially means the same thing as nepotism. Cronyism is showing favoritism to long time friends. Nepotism is showing favoritism to relatives. Same difference.

                        You're not going to change anyone's mind at this point and I honestly see no reason to even drag this election out, let alone add on extra elections. There's been virtually no discussion in an election thread for a while now. Let the project end so we can move on to a new one.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SavoyBG
                          How do you know that I won't change someone's mind?
                          Presenting a case and letting it stand alone can change someone's mind. Constantly nitpicking in a combative way and repeating yourself results in most people just scrolling past those posts and ignoring them.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SavoyBG
                            Sounds like you're guilty of being like Frisch. You're allowing your personal feelings about my persistence influence your ballot, rather than just judging the candidates on their merits.
                            Taking this to a personal level will not win people over to your side.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by J W
                              Ah. Well, glad we're all in agreement then :cap:

                              I think it's kind of neat that someone has taken up the mantle of finding out who's truly worst... although didn't the BBF community try to rank the HoF from the bottom up some time ago? Who was "voted out" first?
                              I tried to launch a project which took the memberships of Cooperstown, BBF HOF, BBTF HOM, the Progressive HOF project and the Best of Baseball project and try to vote them off. There simply wasn't the interest (we had only 3 or 4 voters IIRC), and I didn't bother to compile the results.
                              Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                              Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                              A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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