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  • Gus Suhr

    Gus Suhr played in the big leagues from 1930 to 1940, hitting .279 with a 113 OPS+, 1,446 hits and a 1.65:1 BB/K ratio. He was an All-Star once, received Hall of Fame votes three times (maxing at 0.5% of the vote) and led the league in games played three times and putouts once.

    At one point, he held the NL record for most consecutive games played at 822. He currently holds the Pirates record for most games played by a first baseman, at 1,339.

    Statistically, he is similar to George McQuinn, Elbie Fletcher, Fred Luderus, Bruce Bochte, Tillie Walker, Fred Merkle, David Segui, Bruce Campbell, Sean Casey and Curt Walker. He is ranked #658 on the Fan EloRater, ahead of Elmer Valo, Dave Orr and Curt Walker, but behind Buck Freeman, Al Bumbry and Hunter Pence.

    For those who consider such things, he also had an impressive career in the PCL, hitting as many as 51 home runs in a season.

    What do you think about Gus Suhr? Should he be in the Hall of Fame? Did he have Hall of Fame potential?
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    Yes
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    No
    100.00%
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    Maybe
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    Not a Hall of Famer, but he had Hall of Fame potential
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  • #2
    "George McQuinn, Elbie Fletcher, Fred Luderus, Bruce Bochte, Tillie Walker, Fred Merkle, David Segui, Bruce Campbell, Sean Casey and Curt Walker"

    Name 10 people who were never in my kitchen.

    Just seeing this a comps should scream a resouning NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... unless I'm missing something.
    "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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    • #3
      I voted no, which isn't to say that was terrible. Far from it. He broke in with a bang, hitting .286 with 17 HR and knocking in 107 runs and showing a good batting eye with 80 BB. Alas, this was 1930 when men were men and pitchers were scared or sucked (or glove technology was not what it would later be and the ball was tinkered with). So an ordinarily impressive slash line of .286/.380/.480 was not much above league average producing an OPS+ of 106. At any rate he was already 24. The following season he played only 87 games and the next, while full, was sub par. He then steadily improved peaking at 30 with a 111 R 118 RBI season with a .312/.410/.467 line for an OPS+ of 134. Unable to time travel for modern "nutrition and training" he tapered, playing his last full season at age 33. So late start early finish means he would need a near all time peak to be HOF caliber. I would say through the prism of time he was a very good solid B level 1st baseman of the 30s, a clear step below the giants of those times of which there were many (including Gehrig, Greenberg, Foxx, Mize and for a moment Trosky and at the start Terry).

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      • #4
        Originally posted by PVNICK View Post
        So late start early finish means he would need a near all time peak to be HOF caliber. I would say through the prism of time he was a very good solid B level 1st baseman of the 30s, a clear step below the giants of those times....
        That's a concise and accurate summation of Suhr's HOF case. He is not among the top 20 remaining Hall candidates from the 1930's, a decade that's already well represented in the Coop.
        Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.

        Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.

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        • #5
          A resounding no, as Grimm put it. He is extremely far below the "borderline" threshold.

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          • #6
            He's similar to Bruce Campbell? Does that mean he had a big chin, as well?

            This is bottom of the barrel stuff.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by EnterSandman View Post
              A resounding no, as Grimm put it. He is extremely far below the "borderline" threshold.
              Are you SUHR about that?

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              • #8
                Paging David Segui! Suhr was an average-good player, but a Hof? Where's Zeke Bonura when ya need him?

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