Rate the 2013 BBWAA candidates

[jalbright]

We had 18 votes, and I'll first list the results alphabetically. Please note 7.75 is the cutoff for Hall of Fame worthiness in this approach:

5.78 Sandy Alomar Jr.
9.39 Jeff Bagwell
8.94 Craig Biggio
9.61 Barry Bonds
5.39 Jeff Cirillo
5.11 Royce Clayton
9.72 Roger Clemens
5.56 Jeff Conine
6.44 Steve Finley
6.61 Julio Franco
6.39 Shawn Green
5.67 Roberto Hernandez
5.50 Ryan Klesko
7.72 Kenny Lofton
8.39 Edgar Martinez
7.33 Don Mattingly
8.00 Fred McGriff
8.50 Mark McGwire
5.67 Jose Mesa
7.56 Jack Morris
7.67 Dale Murphy
7.83 Rafael Palmeiro
9.67 Mike Piazza
8.67 Tim Raines
6.17 Reggie Sanders
8.61 Curt Schilling
5.44 Aaron Sele
7.44 Lee Smith
7.94 Sammy Sosa
5.67 Mike Stanton
8.50 Alan Trammell
8.50 Larry Walker
5.17 Todd Walker
7.00 David Wells
5.22 Rondell White
7.33 Bernie Williams
5.17 Woody Williams


Now, highest score to lowest:

9.72 Roger Clemens
9.67 Mike Piazza
9.61 Barry Bonds
9.39 Jeff Bagwell
8.94 Craig Biggio
8.67 Tim Raines
8.61 Curt Schilling
8.50 Mark McGwire
8.50 Alan Trammell
8.50 Larry Walker
8.39 Edgar Martinez
8.00 Fred McGriff
7.94 Sammy Sosa
7.83 Rafael Palmeiro
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7.72 Kenny Lofton
7.67 Dale Murphy
7.56 Jack Morris
7.44 Lee Smith
7.33 Don Mattingly
7.33 Bernie Williams
7.00 David Wells
6.61 Julio Franco
6.44 Steve Finley
6.39 Shawn Green
6.17 Reggie Sanders
5.78 Sandy Alomar Jr.
5.67 Roberto Hernandez
5.67 Jose Mesa
5.67 Mike Stanton
5.56 Jeff Conine
5.50 Ryan Klesko
5.44 Aaron Sele
5.39 Jeff Cirillo
5.22 Rondell White
5.17 Todd Walker
5.17 Woody Williams
5.11 Royce Clayton

[PVNICK]

I know its late but people are still submitting and I'm opinionated today

Sandy Alomar Jr. 0 - technically I should say 1 since some highlights but I took some to mean more than a season or two and the priviledge of being a Met
Jeff Bagwell 5 - my 4-6 1B
Craig Biggio 4 - kinda a 5 but he's back end of top 10 region 2B
Barry Bonds 5 - by the late 90s he was at worst #5 all time LF
Jeff Cirillo - 0
Royce Clayton - 0
Roger Clemens 5 - I'm really creeped out by this one
Jeff Conine - 0
Steve Finley - 1 classic complier, very solid player who spiked when things spiked and had a long career
Julio Franco - 1 I can't say "has a case" despite the batting title
Shawn Green - 2 these mid 90s-mid 00s spike guys just turn me off
Roberto Hernandez - 0
Ryan Klesko - 1
Kenny Lofton - 3
Edgar Martinez - 4
Don Mattingly - 3 (maybe a 2)
Fred McGriff - 4 OK maybe just to me but he was perhaps the premier sliugger from late 80s to the strike, several HR titles and to @ 1993 better rate and counting numbers than the great McGwire. Also a big late season acquisition pickup by Atlanta early in the 90s who had some post season moments albeit on losing teams.
Mark McGwire - 2 (see above)
Jose Mesa - 0
Jack Morris - 3 could be 2 and yes considring how snide I am about him maybe it should be
Dale Murphy (15th election) - 3 I typed 4 at first must have time capsuled back 25 years
Rafael Palmeiro - 2 even taking his jump from Mark Grace lite to Eddie Murray+ at face value he still finishes @ 15-25 all time for me at 1B
Mike Piazza - 5
Tim Raines - 4 though obviously there are doubts or he would be in but still
Reggie Sanders - 1 thought he was gonna be the next Eric Davis it never worked out that waay for either of them
Curt Schilling - 3
Aaron Sele - 0
Lee Smith - 2 I would say one because I am meh on "closeers" but he came a bit before that role got so stat oriented
Sammy Sosa - 2 I'm sorry but he's a fraud and its my opinion, at any rate he taken at face value doesn't crack my top 15 RF
Mike Stanton - 0
Alan Trammell - 4 see Raines, Tim
Larry Walker - 4 I like his 1992 season as the mark of his greatness
Todd Walker - 0
David Wells - 1
Rondell White - 0
Bernie Williams - 3
Woody Williams - 0

[NineWorldSeries]

Sandy Alomar Jr. 1
Jeff Bagwell 4
Craig Biggio 4
Barry Bonds 5
Jeff Cirillo 1
Royce Clayton 0
Roger Clemens 5
Jeff Conine 1
Steve Finley 1
Julio Franco 1
Shawn Green 1
Roberto Hernandez 0
Ryan Klesko 0
Kenny Lofton 2
Edgar Martinez 2
Don Mattingly 2
Fred McGriff 3
Mark McGwire 4
Jose Mesa 0
Jack Morris 2
Dale Murphy (15th election) 2
Rafael Palmeiro 4
Mike Piazza 5
Tim Raines 3
Reggie Sanders 0
Curt Schilling 2
Aaron Sele 0
Lee Smith 2
Sammy Sosa 3
Mike Stanton 0
Alan Trammell 2
Larry Walker 3
Todd Walker 0
David Wells 1
Rondell White 0
Bernie Williams 2
Woody Williams 0

[jgangstahippie]

Sandy Alomar Jr.-0
Jeff Bagwell-5
Craig Biggio-3
Barry Bonds-5
Jeff Cirillo-0
Royce Clayton-0
Roger Clemens-5
Jeff Conine-0
Steve Finley-0
Julio Franco-0
Shawn Green-0
Roberto Hernandez-0
Ryan Klesko-0
Kenny Lofton-1
Edgar Martinez-3
Don Mattingly-1
Fred McGriff-1
Mark McGwire-3
Jose Mesa-1
Jack Morris-2
Dale Murphy (15th election)-3
Rafael Palmeiro-0 (I'm only punishing those who actually failed an MLB drug test and got suspended)
Mike Piazza-4
Tim Raines-1
Reggie Sanders-0
Curt Schilling-4
Aaron Sele-0
Lee Smith-1
Sammy Sosa-4
Mike Stanton-0
Alan Trammell-3
Larry Walker-3
Todd Walker-0
David Wells-0
Rondell White-0
Bernie Williams-1
Woody Williams-0

[jalbright]

I'll publish the ratings of all votes before the HOF announcement at 2 pm EST later this afternoon, as I do not have the data handy.

[NJRob65]

Sandy Alomar Jr.- 0
Jeff Bagwell- 5
Craig Biggio- 4
Barry Bonds- 5
Jeff Cirillo- 0
Royce Clayton- 0
Roger Clemens- 5
Jeff Conine- 0
Steve Finely- 1
Julio Franco- 2
Shawn Green- 1
Roberto Hernandez- 1
Ryan Klesko- 1
Kenny Lofton- 4
Edgar Martinez- 4
Don Mattingly- 3
Fred McGriff- 3
Mark McGwire- 4
Jose Mesa- 1
Jack Morris- 2
Dale Murphy (15th election)- 2
Rafael Palmeiro- 4
Mike Piazza- 5
Tim Raines- 4
Reggie Sanders- 1
Curt Schilling- 4
Aaron Sele- 1
Lee Smith- 2
Sammy Sosa-3
Mike Stanton- 1
Alan Trammmell- 4
Larry Walker- 4
Todd Walker- 0
David Wells- 2
Rondell White- 0
Berine Williams- 3
Woody Williams- 0

[TheMendozaLine]

Sandy Alomar Jr. - 1
Jeff Bagwell - 5
Craig Biggio - 5
Barry Bonds - 5
Jeff Cirillo - 0
Royce Clayton - 0
Roger Clemens - 5
Jeff Conine - 0
Steve Finley - 1
Julio Franco - 1
Shawn Green - 1
Roberto Hernandez - 1
Ryan Klesko - 1
Kenny Lofton - 3
Edgar Martinez - 4
Don Mattingly - 3
Fred McGriff - 4
Mark McGwire - 4
Jose Mesa - 2
Jack Morris - 3
Dale Murphy (15th election) - 2
Rafael Palmeiro - 3
Mike Piazza - 5
Tim Raines - 4
Reggie Sanders - 1
Curt Schilling - 4
Aaron Sele - 2
Lee Smith - 3
Sammy Sosa - 3
Mike Stanton - 1
Alan Trammell - 4
Larry Walker - 4
Todd Walker - 0
David Wells - 3
Rondell White - 1
Bernie Williams - 3
Woody Williams - 0

[JR Hart]

Hmm I"ve seen a variation of this before. I like it though

Sandy Alomar Jr. 1
Jeff Bagwell 4
Craig Biggio 4
Barry Bonds 5
Jeff Cirillo 0
Royce Clayton 1
Roger Clemens 5
Jeff Conine 1
Steve Finley 1
Julio Franco 1
Shawn Green 2
Roberto Hernandez 1
Ryan Klesko 1
Kenny Lofton 3
Edgar Martinez 3
Don Mattingly 2
Fred McGriff 3
Mark McGwire 5
Jose Mesa 1
Jack Morris 4
Dale Murphy (15th election) 4
Rafael Palmeiro 4
Mike Piazza 4
Tim Raines 3
Reggie Sanders 1
Curt Schilling 3
Aaron Sele 1
Lee Smith 3
Sammy Sosa 4
Mike Stanton 1
Alan Trammell 4
Larry Walker 4
Todd Walker 1
David Wells 2
Rondell White 0
Bernie Williams 2
Woody Williams 0

[jalbright]

I corrected my ballot. Larry walker 3, Rondell White 0

Thank you.

[chicagowhitesox1173]

CWS, you skipped one guy who won't matter much, Rondell White, but one of significance in Larry Walker. Please give me your ratings for those two. Thanks. I'll also PM you on this.

I corrected my ballot. Larry walker 3, Rondell White 0

[jalbright]

Sandy Alomar Jr. 1
......
Alan Trammell 4
Todd Walker 0
David Wells 3
Bernie Williams 3
Woody Williams 0

CWS, you skipped one guy who won't matter much, Rondell White, but one of significance in Larry Walker. Please give me your ratings for those two. Thanks. I'll also PM you on this.

[chicagowhitesox1173]

Sandy Alomar Jr. 1
Jeff Bagwell 4
Craig Biggio 4
Barry Bonds 5
Jeff Cirillo 0
Royce Clayton 0
Roger Clemens 5
Jeff Conine 0
Steve Finley 2
Julio Franco 3
Shawn Green 2
Roberto Hernandez 1
Ryan Klesko 1
Kenny Lofton 3
Edgar Martinez 4
Don Mattingly 4
Fredd McGriff 4
Mark McGwire 4
Jose Mesa 1
Jack Morris 3
Dale Murphy 3
Rafael Palmeiro 3
Mike Piazza 5
Tim Raines 4
Reggie Sanders 1
Curt Schilling 4
Aaron Sele 0
Lee Smith 3
Sammy Sosa 2
Alan Trammell 4
Larry Walker3
ToddWalker 0
David Wells 3
Rondell White 0
Bernie Williams 3
Woody Williams 0

[redban]

Sandy Alomar Jr. 1
Jeff Bagwell 4
Craig Biggio 4
Barry Bonds 0
Jeff Cirillo 0
Royce Clayton 0
Roger Clemens 2
Jeff Conine 0
Steve Finley 1
Julio Franco 2
Shawn Green 2
Roberto Hernandez 1
Ryan Klesko 0
Kenny Lofton 2
Edgar Martinez 4
Don Mattingly 2
Fred McGriff 4
Mark McGwire 1
Jose Mesa 1
Jack Morris 4
Dale Murphy 3
Rafael Palmeiro 0
Mike Piazza 5
Tim Raines 3
Reggie Sanders 1
Curt Schilling 4
Aaron Sele 0
Lee Smith 3
Sammy Sosa 0
Mike Stanton 0
Alan Trammell 3
Larry Walker 3
Todd Walker 1
David Wells 2
Rondell White 0
Bernie Williams 2
Woody Williams 0

[Richard Stark]

Sandy Alomar Jr. 2
Jeff Bagwell 5
Craig Biggio 5
Barry Bonds 5
Jeff Cirillo 1
Royce Clayton 1
Roger Clemens 5
Jeff Conine 2
Steve Finley 2
Julio Franco 2
Shawn Green 2
Roberto Hernandez 1
Ryan Klesko 1
Kenny Lofton 3
Edgar Martinez 4
Don Mattingly 3
Fred McGriff 4
Mark McGwire 4
Jose Mesa 2
Jack Morris 4
Dale Murphy 3
Rafael Palmeiro 4
Mike Piazza 5
Tim Raines 5
Reggie Sanders 2
Curt Schilling 4
Aaron Sele 1
Lee Smith 4
Sammy Sosa 3
Mike Stanton 2
Alan Trammell 5
Larry Walker 3
Todd Walker 1
David Wells 2
Rondell White 2
Bernie Williams 3
Woody Williams 2

[John Shoemaker]

Sandy Alomar Jr. 0
Jeff Bagwell 5
Craig Biggio 3
Barry Bonds 5
Jeff Cirillo 0
Royce Clayton 0
Roger Clemens 5
Jeff Conine 0
Steve Finley 3
Julio Franco 1
Shawn Green 3
Roberto Hernandez 0
Ryan Klesko 0
Kenny Lofton 2
Edgar Martinez 4
Don Mattingly 1
Fred McGriff 4
Mark McGwire 5
Jose Mesa 0
Jack Morris 3
Dale Murphy 3
Rafael Palmeiro 5
Mike Piazza 5
Tim Raines 3
Reggie Sanders 3
Curt Schilling 5
Aaron Sele 0
Lee Smith 3
Sammy Sosa 5
Mike Stanton 0
Alan Trammell 3
Larry Walker 4
Todd Walker 0
David Wells 3
Rondell White 0
Bernie Williams 2
Woody Williams 0