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  • Really Big Hall of Fame: 1903

    Welcome to the Really Big Hall of Fame, a project dedicated to developing a much more inclusive Hall of Fame. We're all "big Hall" guys here.

    This is like the Progressive Hall of Fame, but with one catch. You MUST vote for 12 players in each election. It doesn't matter if you wouldn't vote for them "in real life." This is the Really Big Hall of Fame. We want a lot of inductees.

    But please take the voting seriously. Please do not just vote ten random players--consider who is on the ballot and vote for the ten who you think were the best, who are most deserving for election.

    To ensure that people follow the "12 player rule", I will be requiring that participating members submit their ballots as posts, rather than via a poll. That way I can ensure accountability.

    Rules and information

    1. A player is eligible five years from the date of his final major league game.
    2. A player may appear on the ballot as many as 15 times.
    3. A player must receive 65% of the vote to be elected.
    4. A player must receive at least 5% of the vote to remain on the ballot.
    5. Elections will last seven days (one week).
    6. Usually, a player must have played 10 seasons to be eligible. But since this is the Really Big Hall of Fame, (admittedly arbitrary) exceptions will made.
    7. For the time being, only major league players will be considered, including NA players. Negro League votes will come later on.
    8. For the time being, a "Would Have Voted For" of fluid allowable size* is permitted. This will save players from being eliminated from the ballot, even if they do not receive any votes.
    9. Please consider only a person's playing career.

    *Zero players if the ballot contains less than 20 names, one player if it contains between 20 and 29 names, two players if it contains between 30 and 39 names and three players if it contains more than 40 names.

    Select your best 12 from this ballot of 25 players. You must vote for 12 players. To save players from ballot elimination, you are also allowed a "would have voted for" list--a list of one player you would have voted for had you enough room. This will save them from dropping off the ballot even if they do not receive a vote.

    Lou Bierbauer
    Tom Brown
    Larry Corcoran
    Fred Dunlap
    Red Ehret
    Dave Foutz
    Mike Griffin
    Bug Holliday
    Bill Hutchinson
    Charley Jones
    Bill Joyce
    Matt Kilroy
    Silver King
    Denny Lyons
    Connie Mack
    Sadie McMahon
    Levi Meyerle
    Ed Morris
    Billy Nash
    Dickey Pearce
    Fred Pfeffer
    Billy Shindle
    Germany Smith
    Jim Whitney
    Walt Wilmot
    Harry Wright

    New on the ballot:

    Lou Bierbauer
    Tom Brown
    Red Ehret
    Mike Griffin
    Bug Holliday
    Bill Joyce
    Matt Kilroy
    Billy Nash
    Billy Shindle
    Germany Smith
    Walt Wilmot

    Dropped from the last ballot:

    Charlie Ganzel
    Adonis Terry

    The Really Big Hall of Fame:

    Code:
    
    Player:          Times on ballot:          Election percentage:           Year elected:
    
    Cap     Anson           1                        100.00%                       1902                        
    Ross	Barnes          1                        80.00%                        1900
    Charlie Bennett         2                        80.00%                        1901
    Tommy   Bond            3                        88.89%                        1902
    Pete 	Browning        2                        80.00%                        1901
    Charlie Buffinton       3                        66.67%                        1902
    Bob	Caruthers       1                        70.00%                        1900
    John	Clarkson        1                        100.00%                       1900
    Roger   Connor          1                        100.00%                       1902 
    Buck    Ewing           1                        100.00%                       1902
    Pud	Galvin          1                        80.00%                        1900
    Jack	Glasscock       1                        90.00%                        1900
    George  Gore            2                        90.00%                        1901
    Paul	Hines           2                        90.00%                        1901
    Tim	Keefe           1                        100.00%                       1900  
    King	Kelly           1                        100.00%                       1900
    Bobby   Mathews         3                        66.67%                        1902
    Jim     McCormick       3                        100.00%                       1902
    Cal     McVey           3                        66.67%                        1902
    Tony	Mullane         2                        80.00%                        1901
    Tip     O'Neill         3                        88.89%                        1902
    Lip     Pike            1                        70.00%                        1901
    Old HossRadbourn        1                        100.00%                       1900
    Hardy   Richardson      2                        90.00%                        1901
    Al	Spalding        1                        90.00%                        1900
    Joe     Start           3                        77.78%                        1902
    Harry	Stovey          2                        70.00%                        1901
    Ezra	Sutton          2                        80.00%                        1901
    Monte	Ward            1                        70.00%                        1900
    Mickey	Welch           1                        80.00%                        1901
    Deacon	White           1                        90.00%                        1900
    George	Wright          1                        80.00%                        1900
    Holdovers:

    Code:
    Player:                Times on ballot:          Previous percentage:          High percentage: 
                                          
    Larry	Corcoran             3                         33.33%                         33.33%
    Fred	Dunlap               3                         11.11%                         11.11%
    Dave	Foutz                2                         55.56%                         55.56%   
    Bill    Hutchinson           1                         11.11%                         11.11% 
    Charley	Jones                3                         44.44%                         44.44%
    Silver  King                 1                         44.44%                         44.44%
    Denny   Lyons                1                         33.33%                         33.33%                           
    Connie	Mack                 2                         11.11%                         11.11%    
    Sadie   McMahon              1                         11.11%                         11.11%     
    Levi	Meyerle              3                         WHVF                           10.00%
    Ed      Morris               3                         11.11%                         11.11%                      
    Dickey	Pearce               2                         20.00%                         30.00%
    Fred    Pfeffer              1                         11.11%                         11.11% 
    Jim	Whitney              3                         22.22%                         22.22% 
    Harry	Wright               3                         22.22%                         22.22%
    
    Holdovers dropped:
    
    None.
    
    Last year of eligibility:
    
    None.
    Number of voters in each election:

    1900: 10
    1901: 10
    1902: 9

    Hall of Fame stats:

    # of players in the Really Big Hall of Fame: 32
    # of players elected by regular election: 32
    Avg. # of players elected during each regular election: 10.7

    Really Big Hall of Fame members by primary position:

    C (2): Charlie Bennett, Buck Ewing
    1B (4): Cap Anson, Roger Connor, Cal McVey, Joe Start
    2B (2): Ross Barnes, Hardy Richardson
    3B (2): Ezra Sutton, Deacon White
    SS (3): Jack Glasscock, Monte Ward, George Wright
    LF (1): Tip O'Neill
    CF (4): Pete Browning, George Gore, Paul Hines, Lip Pike
    RF (1): King Kelly
    OF (1): Harry Stovey
    SP (12): Tommy Bond, Charlie Buffinton, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, Pud Galvin, Tim Keefe, Bobby Mathews, Jim McCormick, Tony Mullane, Old Hoss Radbourn, Al Spalding, Mickey Welch

    Players elected by year:

    1900 (12): Ross Barnes, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, Pud Galvin, Jack Glasscock, Tim Keefe, King Kelly, Old Hoss Radbourn, Al Spalding, Monte Ward, Deacon White, George Wright
    1901 (10): Charlie Bennett, Pete Browning, George Gore, Paul Hines, Tony Mullane, Lip Pike, Hardy Richardson, Harry Stovey, Ezra Sutton, Mickey Welch
    1902 (10): Cap Anson, Tommy Bond, Charlie Buffinton, Roger Connor, Buck Ewing, Bobby Mathews, Jim McCormick, Cal McVey, Tip O'Neill, Joe Start

    Players elected by primary decade:

    1870s (7): Ross Barnes, Tommy Bond, Bobby Mathews, Cal McVey, Lip Pike, Al Spalding, George Wright
    1880s (25): Cap Anson, Charlie Bennett, Pete Browning, Charlie Buffinton, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, Roger Connor, Buck Ewing, Pud Galvin, Jack Glasscock, George Gore, Paul Hines, Tim Keefe, King Kelly, Jim McCormick, Tony Mullane, Tip O'Neill, Old Hoss Radbourn, Hardy Richardson, Joe Start, Harry Stovey, Ezra Sutton, Monte Ward, Mickey Welch, Deacon White

  • #2
    Tom Brown
    Larry Corcoran
    Fred Dunlap
    Dave Foutz
    Mike Griffin
    Bug Holliday
    Bill Joyce
    Silver King
    Denny Lyons
    Levi Meyerle
    Ed Morris
    Jim Whitney

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    • #3
      Larry Corcoran
      Fred Dunap
      Dave Foutz
      Charley Jones
      Matt Kilroy
      Silver King
      Denny Lyons
      Levi Meyerle
      Dickey Pearce
      Fred Pfeffer
      Jim Whitney
      Harry Wright

      Holdover: Sadie McMahon
      Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
      Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
      Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
      Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
      Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

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      • #4
        Fred Dunlap
        Dave Foutz
        Mike Griffin
        Charley Jones
        Bill Joyce
        Matt Kilroy
        Silver King
        Denny Lyons
        Sadie McMahon
        Ed Morris
        Billy Nash
        Jim Whitney
        -----
        Bill Hutchinson

        Boy, if we elect about 10 guys every year, this Hall will be Really Big indeed -- over 1000 players. The largest personal Hall in the Single Ballot HOF has less than 500. I expect we'll start inducting some mediocre players fairly soon (perhaps this round).
        *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

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        • #5
          Lou Bierbauer
          Larry Corcoran
          Fred Dunlap
          Dave Foutz
          Mike Griffin
          Charley Jones
          Silver King
          Denny Lyons
          Levi Meyerle
          Billy Nash
          Dickey Pearce
          Fred Pfeffer

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          • #6
            Larry Corcoran
            Fred Dunlap
            Dave Foutz
            Mike Griffin
            Charley Jones
            Bill Joyce
            Silver King
            Denny Lyons
            Levi Meyerle
            Dickey Pearce
            Fred Pfeffer
            Harry Wright

            Sadie McMahon will get my vote next round.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DJC View Post
              Boy, if we elect about 10 guys every year, this Hall will be Really Big indeed -- over 1000 players. The largest personal Hall in the Single Ballot HOF has less than 500. I expect we'll start inducting some mediocre players fairly soon (perhaps this round).
              I agree. Largely due to the small number of new players on each ballot, more and more lesser guys are receiving considerable attention. In the first election, guys like Dave Orr, Will White and Guy Hecker didn't receive a single vote--and now we have players like Silver King sweeping the ballots.

              The Veterans' Committee elections are going to be interesting, that's for sure.

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              • #8
                Ballot:

                Larry Corcoran
                Fred Dunlap
                Dave Foutz
                Mike Griffin
                Charley Jones
                Bill Joyce
                Silver King
                Levi Meyerle
                Billy Nash
                Dickey Pearce
                Fred Pfeffer
                Jim Whitney

                Might eventually vote for:

                Germany Smith

                You might want to consider making those dropped in the first 2 elections eligible again. Minus those two elections, there are unlikely to be any players not elected anyone would be interested in voting for and hence zero interest in VC elections.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post

                  You might want to consider making those dropped in the first 2 elections eligible again. Minus those two elections, there are unlikely to be any players not elected anyone would be interested in voting for and hence zero interest in VC elections.
                  I have definitely considered that...I'll mull it over some more.

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                  • #10
                    Levi Meyerle
                    Charley Jones
                    Silver King
                    Dickey Pearce
                    Fred Dunlap
                    Dave Foutz
                    Mike Griffin
                    Bill Joyce
                    Denny Lyons
                    Sadie McMahon
                    Ed Morris
                    Jim Whitney

                    Bill Hutchinson
                    The Hall of Stats: An alternate Hall of Fame populated by a mathematical formula.

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                    • #11
                      Just a couple days left.

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                      • #12
                        We elected 11 more players, with three (seemingly unlikely candidates) earning 100% of the vote. Here's who we elected:

                        Larry Corcoran
                        Fred Dunlap
                        Dave Foutz
                        Mike Griffin
                        Charley Jones
                        Bill Joyce
                        Silver King
                        Denny Lyons
                        Levi Meyerle
                        Dickey Pearce
                        Jim Whitney

                        Code:
                        Name, votes, potential votes, percentage received
                        
                        Fred		Dunlap		7		7		100.00%
                        Dave		Foutz		7		7		100.00%
                        Silver		King		7		7		100.00%
                        Denny		Lyons		6		7		85.71%
                        Mike		Griffin		6		7		85.71%
                        Levi		Meyerle		6		7		85.71%
                        Charley		Jones		6		7		85.71%
                        Larry		Corcoran	5		7		71.43%
                        Bill		Joyce		5		7		71.43%
                        Jim		Whitney		5		7		71.43%
                        Dickey		Pearce		5		7		71.43%
                        <---cut-off--->
                        Fred		Pfeffer		4		7		57.14%
                        Billy		Nash		3		7		42.86%
                        Ed		Morris		3		7		42.86%
                        Sadie		McMahon		3		7		42.86%
                        Matt		Kilroy		2		7		28.57%
                        Harry		Wright		2		7		28.57%
                        Tom 		Brown		1		7		14.29%
                        Bug		Holliday	1		7		14.29%
                        Lou		Bierbauer	1		7		14.29%
                        To combat the relative lack of newcomers in the upcoming elections, I'm going to reintroduce some players who dropped off the first couple ballots to the next round of voting. A new election will be arriving shortly.
                        Last edited by Cowtipper; 12-29-2012, 03:44 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cowtipper View Post
                          A new election will be arriving shortly.
                          Is this project still happening?

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                          • #14
                            Yeah, time has been limited lately.

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