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  • Ace Venom
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    I have to say the lack of any inductees isn't much of a surprise. Next year might be the year for Biggio simply because there are enough people who won't vote for anyone on the first ballot. But I have been wrong before.

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  • crzblue
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    Thanks guys! I've never been to Cooperstown. Maybe this year but the weekend before the Dodgers go play the Yankees.

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  • Cowtipper
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    Originally posted by crzblue View Post
    What happens now at Cooperstown?
    Deacon White, Jacob Ruppert and Hank O'Day get speeches by family members or historians.

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  • Captain Cold Nose
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    Originally posted by crzblue View Post
    What happens now at Cooperstown?
    One living honoree, Paul Hagen the Spinks award winner.

    The big question-do the HOFers come out for induction weekend in a self-congratulatory mood because this vote is an indictment against the steroid users so many have rallied against, or do they stay away in record numbers?

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  • crzblue
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    What happens now at Cooperstown?

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  • George H Ruth
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    No one gets in.

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  • Bothrops Atrox
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    Update - looks like only Biggio has any solid chance...

    185 Full Ballots 32.3% of last years vote)



    69.7 - Biggio
    60.5 - Raines
    60.5 - J. Morris
    60.0 - Bagwell
    59.5 - Piazza
    45.4 - Bonds
    44.3 - Clemens
    38.9 - Schilling
    37.8 - L. Smith
    37.8 - Trammell
    35.1 - E. Martinez
    20.0 - D. Murphy
    18.9 - McGriff
    16.8 - L. Walker
    13.5 - S. Sosa
    13.0 - McGwire
    12.4 - Raffy
    8.6 - Mattingly
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    2.7 - Lofton
    1.7 - P. Rose
    1.7 - Bernie Williams
    0.6 - D. Wells
    0.6 - J. Franco
    0.6 - S. Alomar Jr.
    0.6 - S. Green

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  • Bothrops Atrox
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    Originally posted by fenrir View Post
    This sounds about right. Also, I no longer believe Maddux has a shot at breaking Seaver's record.
    I think 3 guys get voted in next year. Maddux and two of the following: Glavine, Thomas or Biggio. Not sure if Morris, Bagwell, or Piazza can increase their totals enough with the class that is coming in.

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  • fenrir
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    Update from Baseballthinkfactory:

    The 2013 HOF Ballot Collecting Gizmo!

    Updated 7:35 ~ 151 Full Ballots ~ (26.4% of vote ~ based on last year)

    Cooperstown = Ghost town? %.

    68.2 - Biggio
    62.9 - J. Morris
    61.6 - Bagwell
    60.9 - Raines
    58.9 - Piazza
    43.0 - Bonds
    42.4- Clemens
    39.1 - L. Smith
    39.1 - Schilling
    36.4 - E. Martinez
    36.4 - Trammell
    21.2 - D. Murphy
    19.2 - McGriff
    15.2 - L. Walker
    14.6 - S. Sosa
    13.0 - Raffy
    13.0 - McGwire
    9.3 - Mattingly
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    2.6 - Lofton
    2.0 - P. Rose (goofy write-in’s)
    2.0 - Bernie Williams
    1.3 - D. Wells
    0.7 - J. Franco
    0.7 - S. Alomar Jr.
    0.7 - S. Green

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  • fenrir
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    Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post
    Next year's ballot will be mind-blowing. And there will be so many guys deserving votes, only Maddux will get in. We may have a situation where guys who at one point were considered locks, with little to no PED evidence (Thomas, Glavine, Piazza, Biggio, etc.) will have to wait years to get in.
    This sounds about right. Also, I no longer believe Maddux has a shot at breaking Seaver's record.

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  • Bothrops Atrox
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    Next year's ballot will be mind-blowing. And there will be so many guys deserving votes, only Maddux will get in. We may have a situation where guys who at one point were considered locks, with little to no PED evidence (Thomas, Glavine, Piazza, Biggio, etc.) will have to wait years to get in.

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  • Bothrops Atrox
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    Hall of Merit (Baseball Think Factory) member post:

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    "Let me take a shot at the percent groupings of the electorate re: steroids.

    20% Steroid ignorers. People who will vote for Mark McGwire (current Mark % held a bit lower by crowded ballot).

    25% Steroid adjusters. They won't vote for McGwire, who maybe only hits 450 homers clean, with too low of a hit total, no defensive value to warrant induction. But they will vote for Bonds and Clemens, who had HOF resumes before the year they are commonly thought to have started juicing.

    20% Steroid convicters. They won't vote for McGwire, Bonds or Clemens, but will vote for guys like Piazza and Bagwell. Guys for whom there is no reasonable case to convict them as steroid users, but suspicions (however flimsy) remain.

    5% Steroid witch hunters. Cannot vote for Piazza or Bagwell. If it looks like a witch, burn it! Biggio OK though.

    10% Scorched earth anti-steroid zealots. They won't vote for Biggio or Schilling, even if there's not even flimsy suspicion against them. They played with steroid users, dammit, and deserve to suffer for that sin. Murray's kin will only vote for Jack Morris, because it will rile up those filthy, unwashed mother's basement types.

    5% confused voters. All those qualified names, only so much dexterity in my writing pen. If I vote for Bonds, Clemens, and Morris, not sure if I have the inclination left to scribble out B-I-G-G-I-O.


    14% - won't vote for anyone first ballot unless they are both 100% clean and also have pure, no doubt, inner circle stats.

    1% Would not vote for anyone on the first ballot. No exceptions.

    OK. Now my groups add up to 100%."

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    Pretty funny, if not somewhat accurate.

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  • PVNICK
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    It's so hard to comment on the peculiarities. I'm sure my choices would seem peculiar as well. I like the citing the WS for Morris but chiding Bernie Williams for having too high a percentage of great post season moments.

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  • chicagowhitesox1173
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    Originally posted by Ben Grimm View Post
    Murray Chass did the same with Morris. At least Chass said he's withdrawing from the voting next year. Brookover ought to follow suit. Know what? Add Jon Heyman to the list of those who should lose their priveleges. Here are Heyman's selections along with his reasoning. Curt Schilling gets his vote because there's no evidence of juicing, but Piazza doesn't get a vote because they're not enough evidence of juicing? Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.
    He's actually waiting for Piazza to write his book before he makes his decision on him.

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  • Ben Grimm
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    Originally posted by Cowtipper View Post
    Bob Brookover voting only for Dale Murphy is curious.
    Murray Chass did the same with Morris. At least Chass said he's withdrawing from the voting next year. Brookover ought to follow suit. Know what? Add Jon Heyman to the list of those who should lose their priveleges. Here are Heyman's selections along with his reasoning. Curt Schilling gets his vote because there's no evidence of juicing, but Piazza doesn't get a vote because they're not enough evidence of juicing? Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.

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