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  • "The Hall of Frank Howard"

    Back in college, my good friend Jenny Rycenga and I used to play a Hot Stove League game we called "The Hall of Frank Howard," identifying players who were one notch below the Hall of Fame, but, we said, "deserved their own hall."

    Examples: If Steve Garvey is not a Hall-of-Famer - opinions will differ, as I see from a lengthy thread in this sub-forum - then he is obviously Hall of Frank Howard. Dwight Evans might actually deserve to make the HOF sabermetrically, but you know he never will, so we've got a spot reserved for him in the HOFH. Mark Grace. Jim Kaat. Jerry Koosman. Among old-timers, Indian Bob Johnson.

    I'll stop there and allow members of this forum to nominate their own candidates! It's kind of a fun game.
    Last edited by Patrick Murtha; 01-06-2013, 12:32 PM.

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    Frank Tannana might be one.
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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    • #3
      Ed Ruelbach

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      • #4
        How about Ted Simmons? I always thought while growing up that his bat would get him in. Had some real fine seasons while with St Louis in that old spacious ballpark. I was too young to see him play, so I don't know how he was behind the plate, but he was a real fine switch hitting C for a while.
        "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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        • #5
          Most sluggers with 300-399 HRs fit here.

          Roy Sievers
          Rocky Colavito
          Joe Carter
          Norm Cash
          "I do not care if half the league strikes. Those who do it will encounter quick retribution. All will be suspended and I don't care if it wrecks the National League for five years. This is the United States of America and one citizen has as much right to play as another. The National League will go down the line with Robinson whatever the consequences. You will find if you go through with your intention that you have been guilty of complete madness."

          NL President Ford Frick, 1947

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Herr28 View Post
            How about Ted Simmons? I always thought while growing up that his bat would get him in. Had some real fine seasons while with St Louis in that old spacious ballpark. I was too young to see him play, so I don't know how he was behind the plate, but he was a real fine switch hitting C for a while.
            I'd day he is too far over the HOF line.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post
              I'd day he is too far over the HOF line.
              I personally think the same about Frank Howard and Norm Cash, but the writers don't agree.
              "I do not care if half the league strikes. Those who do it will encounter quick retribution. All will be suspended and I don't care if it wrecks the National League for five years. This is the United States of America and one citizen has as much right to play as another. The National League will go down the line with Robinson whatever the consequences. You will find if you go through with your intention that you have been guilty of complete madness."

              NL President Ford Frick, 1947

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              • #8
                Craig Nettles and Buddy Bell probably will never get in.

                Chuck Finley?
                "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

                "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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                • #9
                  Elston Howard, Chuck Knoblauch, Matt Williams, Dave Concepcion, Dick Allen, Luis Gonzalez, Steve Finley, Dave Justice

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                  • #10
                    Greg Luzinski
                    Jerry Koosman
                    Tug McGraw..for relievers
                    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

                    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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                    • #11
                      Glad to see that Simba support!

                      Gene Tenace and Keith Hernandez were two more that came to mind from that era.
                      "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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                      • #12
                        Dave Kingman

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                        • #13
                          Dale Murphy and Vada Pinson

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                          • #14
                            Robin Ventura.
                            They call me Mr. Baseball. Not because of my love for the game; because of all the stitches in my head.

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                            • #15
                              The REAL 1987 NL MVP Jack "The Ripper" Clark! Sorry Hawk...
                              "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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