This is the 12th poll to survey the BBF scholars as to who among recent players we think will be in the Hall of Fame 50 years from now. From the list of players provided, vote for the four (4) players you think are most likely to be enshrined in the Hall by the year 2063. So it’s not the guys you think are most deserving; it’s who you think the voters are most likely to elect. For more background and links to all elections go here: A New Project: Future Hall of Famers.
One thing you need to do is to predict what the voters of the next two generations will do regarding players from the “steroids era”. Will a future Veterans Committee have a more favorable view of players like Tejada, Ramirez, et al? Or will the “known cheaters” be pariahs forever?
A few notes on the stats below:
--For pitchers career WAR includes their offense.
--A column for 2012 WAR is now included because most of these players were active in MLB last season.
--“4.5 Yrs” is the number of years a guy performed at an all-star level, at least 4.5 WAR. This has not been adjusted for the 1994-95 short seasons. For pitchers it does not include offense, so someone like Glavine get short-changed.
--”WS” is career Win Shares from the annual Bill James Handbooks. For pitchers I have increased their total by 25% in an attempt to put them on the same scale as hitters. If you disagree with this, simply multiply the number shown by .80 and you will get pitchers’ “book total” of win shares.
--”oHOFm” is the old Hall of Fame Monitor number from BB-Ref, where 70 signifies a candidate, 100 signifies a likely election and 130 signifies almost certain election.
--”nHOFm” is the recalibration by Bill James of the Hall of Fame Monitor, where 100 signifies almost certain election.
--Hideki Matsui has a good case if the HOF ever gives strong consideration to his play in Japan.
--R.A. Dickey won the CY as a 37-year-old knuckleballer, so you never know how long he'll go on.
You are encouraged to go beyond the stats offered here in researching these players. BB-Ref provides sortable lists for players born in 1973 and 1974.
One thing you need to do is to predict what the voters of the next two generations will do regarding players from the “steroids era”. Will a future Veterans Committee have a more favorable view of players like Tejada, Ramirez, et al? Or will the “known cheaters” be pariahs forever?
A few notes on the stats below:
--For pitchers career WAR includes their offense.
--A column for 2012 WAR is now included because most of these players were active in MLB last season.
--“4.5 Yrs” is the number of years a guy performed at an all-star level, at least 4.5 WAR. This has not been adjusted for the 1994-95 short seasons. For pitchers it does not include offense, so someone like Glavine get short-changed.
--”WS” is career Win Shares from the annual Bill James Handbooks. For pitchers I have increased their total by 25% in an attempt to put them on the same scale as hitters. If you disagree with this, simply multiply the number shown by .80 and you will get pitchers’ “book total” of win shares.
--”oHOFm” is the old Hall of Fame Monitor number from BB-Ref, where 70 signifies a candidate, 100 signifies a likely election and 130 signifies almost certain election.
--”nHOFm” is the recalibration by Bill James of the Hall of Fame Monitor, where 100 signifies almost certain election.
--Hideki Matsui has a good case if the HOF ever gives strong consideration to his play in Japan.
--R.A. Dickey won the CY as a 37-year-old knuckleballer, so you never know how long he'll go on.
Code:
Player WAR/pos 2012 Born PA/IP 4.5 Yrs WS oHOFm nHOFm Derek Jeter 69.3 2.1 1974 11895 6 403 334 162 Todd Helton 58.4 -0.1 1973 9011 5 309 164 95 Bobby Abreu 57.2 -0.4 1974 9926 7 353 94 79 Ichiro Suzuki 54.6 1.6 1973 8723 7 287 218 108 Johnny Damon 52.1 0.1 1973 10917 3 307 90 56 Mike Cameron 43.2 1973 7884 3 243 13 28 Nomar Garciaparra 42.0 1973 6116 6 219 112 70 Miguel Tejada 42.3 1974 9038 4 284 148 83 Jason Kendall 38.3 1974 8702 1 245 108 55 Magglio Ordonez 34.6 1974 7745 4 245 114 62 Hideki Matsui 18.6 -1.4 1974 5066 1 150 36 25 Bartolo Colon 36.0 2.6 1973 2393.1 3 193 58 27 Derek Lowe 31.8 -0.3 1973 2658.1 2 218 53 26 Joe Nathan 22.7 1.9 1974 794.0 0 175 84 56 R.A. Dickey 12.9 5.7 1974 1059.1 1 78 24 9
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