Hall of Fame voting results

[Cowtipper]

From Baseball-Reference.com:

Player	Votes	2013%	2012%

[I]Less than 75% of vote, but still on ballot.[/I]

Craig Biggio	 388	 68.2%	1st Yr
Jack Morris	 385	 67.7%	 66.7%
Jeff Bagwell	 339	 59.6%	 56.0%
Mike Piazza	 329	 57.8%	1st Yr
Tim Raines	 297	 52.2%	 48.7%
Lee Smith	 272	 47.8%	 50.6%
Curt Schilling	 221	 38.8%	1st Yr
Roger Clemens	 214	 37.6%	1st Yr
Barry Bonds	 206	 36.2%	1st Yr
Edgar Martinez	 204	 35.9%	 36.5%
Alan Trammell	 191	33.6%	 36.8%
Larry Walker	 123	21.6%	 22.9%
Fred McGriff	 118	20.7%	 23.9%
Dale Murphy**	 106	 18.6%	 14.5%
Mark McGwire	 96	16.9%	 19.5%
Don Mattingly	 75	13.2%	 17.8%
Sammy Sosa	 71	12.5%	1st Yr
Rafael Palmeiro	 50	 8.8%	 12.6%

[I]Less than 5%, will not be on next year's ballot[/I]

Bernie Williams	 19	 3.3%	 9.6%
Kenny Lofton	 18	 3.2%	1st Yr
Sandy Alomar	 16	 2.8%	1st Yr
Julio Franco	 6	 1.1%	1st Yr
David Wells	 5	 0.9%	1st Yr
Steve Finley	 4	 0.7%	1st Yr
Shawn Green	 2	 0.4%	1st Yr
Aaron Sele	 1	 0.2%	1st Yr
Reggie Sanders	 0	 0.0%	1st Yr
Jeff Cirillo	 0	 0.0%	1st Yr
Woody Williams	 0	 0.0%	1st Yr
Rondell White	 0	 0.0%	1st Yr
Ryan Klesko	 0	 0.0%	1st Yr
Roberto Hernandez	0	 0.0%	1st Yr
Royce Clayton	 0	 0.0%	1st Yr
Jeff Conine	 0	 0.0%	1st Yr
Mike Stanton	 0	 0.0%	1st Yr
Jose Mesa	 0	 0.0%	1st Yr
Todd Walker	 0	 0.0%	1st Yr

**15 yrs on ballot, will not be on next year's ballot

[Tyrus4189Cobb]

What a joke that these baseball "intellects" couldn't collectively elect ONE of many over-qualified players. This site is beginning to become my sanctuary from the reality that so many non players are morons.

[SHOELESSJOE3]

One question has been answered. Earlier on the board discussing what steroid use would mean in the voting.
Looks clear using did hurt some, the two biggest name Clemens and Bonds.

The voters sent them a message, using cost you a first ballot entry.
I think they get in later but it's so obvious for these two greats, using did cost them. Sit and wait.

[Bothrops Atrox]

One question has been answered. Earlier on the board discussing what steroid use would mean in the voting.
Looks clear using did hurt some, the two biggest name Clemens and Bonds.

The voters sent them a message, using cost you a first ballot entry.
I think they get in later but it's so obvious for these two greats, using did cost them. Sit and wait.

The sucky part is, guys with very lose or no PED affiliation got punished for their transgressions too.

[9&10]

Personally, I would have voted for Biggio, Piazza, and Schilling, but I'm fine with no one making it. The only ones who might suffer are the businesses in Cooperstown who rely on a big turnout over HOF weekend. If they survived '96, they'll survive this year, I reckon.

Still scratching my head over how Shawn Green and Aaron Sele managed to get votes.

The notion that PED use will only cost you your first year of eligibility is a misguided one, IMO. Just ask Mark McGwire.

[Roundin' third]

I'm fine with as well. Who ever said that there has to be a player inducted every year? To me this makes being elected a greater honor, i.e. it's not so easy to get in.

[TomBodet]

Voting sux, Biggio, Piazza, Bags, Rocket Morris etc got hosed. Restructure the whole thing.

[Patrick Murtha]

I think that if Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson are not in the HOF, and McGwire clearly isn't going in, then Bonds and Clemens should not, either. I suspect that enough voters feel that way, and that those two players will not be honored, but that is just a hunch.

Other hunches: Biggio should go in next year (although the 2014 first-year class of eligible players is daunting). Piazza and Bagwell almost certainly will go in eventually; sure, you hear some whispers about those guys, but they are not tainted in the way that Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, Sosa, and Palmeiro are.

Schilling has a good shot. I think Morris will fall shy again in his 15th year. So I think it is likely that there are four eventual Hall-of-Famers in this denied 2013 group.

The Sporting News reports that there are 31 newly eligible players next year to join the 17 holdovers from this year.

[GiambiJuice]

To me, the biggest injustice is Kenny Lofton receiving less than 5% and falling off the ballot in his first year of eligibility. He is criminally underrated. Probably a better player than at least 7 CFers currently in the Hall. Certainly a better and more valuable player than Kirby Pucket, that's not even close.

[PVNICK]

To me, the biggest injustice is Kenny Lofton receiving less than 5% and falling off the ballot in his first year of eligibility. He is criminally underrated. Probably a better player than at least 7 CFers currently in the Hall. Certainly a better and more valuable player than Kirby Pucket, that's not even close.

I would add Bernie to that. Maybe I am deluded in thinking Bernie wasn't fooling with magic potions but I think he got screwed by the generation in that he played in an "old" park and without enhancements so his numbers looked weak compared to his competition.

[jalbright]

I suspect that if the anti-roiders keep blocking guys like Piazza and Bagwell when there's nothing more than "suspicion" of sluggers, it will boomerang into making enough voters dismiss the issue entirely. I say this because their supporters can get outraged over their exclusion despite the lack of evidence against them, and throw in their lot with the known roiders like Bonds and Clemens to make the issue irrelevant.

[GiambiJuice]

I would add Bernie to that. Maybe I am deluded in thinking Bernie wasn't fooling with magic potions but I think he got screwed by the generation in that he played in an "old" park and without enhancements so his numbers looked weak compared to his competition.

Bernie is probably my favorite all-time player, but I don't think he's a Hall Of Famer. He was an excellent and underrated hitter, but defensively is where Lofton really pulls away.

FWIW, I agree that Bernie was one of the LEAST likely stars of the late 90's to have been using PEDs. Not that we'll ever know.

[Ben Grimm]

To me, the biggest injustice is Kenny Lofton receiving less than 5% and falling off the ballot in his first year of eligibility. He is criminally underrated. Probably a better player than at least 7 CFers currently in the Hall. Certainly a better and more valuable player than Kirby Pucket, that's not even close.

Agree 100%. But at least there's always Lloyd Waner.

[Patrick Murtha]

I suspect that if the anti-roiders keep blocking guys like Piazza and Bagwell when there's nothing more than "suspicion" of sluggers, it will boomerang into making enough voters dismiss the issue entirely. I say this because their supporters can get outraged over their exclusion despite the lack of evidence against them, and throw in their lot with the known roiders like Bonds and Clemens to make the issue irrelevant.

Well, Piazza was in his first year of eligibility, and did reasonably well. Bagwell should be climbing faster or be in already, I agree.

[Francoeurstein]

I'm disappointed.