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  • The Really Big Hall of Fame: 1905

    Welcome to the Really Big Hall of Fame, a project dedicated to developing a much more inclusive Hall of Fame. We're all "big Hall" guys here.

    This is like the Progressive Hall of Fame, but with one catch. You MUST vote for 12 players in each election. It doesn't matter if you wouldn't vote for them "in real life." This is the Really Big Hall of Fame. We want a lot of inductees.

    But please take the voting seriously. Please do not just vote ten random players--consider who is on the ballot and vote for the ten who you think were the best, who are most deserving for election.

    To ensure that people follow the "12 player rule", I will be requiring that participating members submit their ballots as posts, rather than via a poll. That way I can ensure accountability.

    Rules and information

    1. A player is eligible five years from the date of his final major league game.
    2. A player may appear on the ballot as many as 15 times.
    3. A player must receive 65% of the vote to be elected.
    4. A player must receive at least 5% of the vote to remain on the ballot.
    5. Elections will last seven days (one week).
    6. Usually, a player must have played 10 seasons to be eligible. But since this is the Really Big Hall of Fame, (admittedly arbitrary) exceptions will made.
    7. For the time being, only major league players will be considered, including NA players. Negro League votes will come later on.
    8. For the time being, a "Would Have Voted For" of fluid allowable size* is permitted. This will save players from being eliminated from the ballot, even if they do not receive any votes.
    9. Please consider only a person's playing career.

    *Zero players if the ballot contains less than 20 names, one player if it contains between 20 and 29 names, two players if it contains between 30 and 39 names and three players if it contains more than 40 names.

    Select your best 12 from this ballot of 30 players. You must vote for 12 players. To save players from ballot elimination, you are also allowed a "would have voted for" list--a list of two player you would have voted for had you enough room. This will save them from dropping off the ballot even if they do not receive a vote.

    George Bradley
    Tom Brown
    Tom Burns
    Jack Clements
    Abner Dalrymple
    Frank Dwyer
    Bob Ferguson
    Silver Flint
    Guy Hecker
    Bug Holliday
    Joe Hornung
    Bill Hutchinson
    Frank Killen
    Matt Kilroy
    Henry Larkin
    Dick McBride
    Jouett Meekin
    John Morrill
    Dave Orr
    Fred Pfeffer
    Paul Radford
    John Reilly
    Yank Robinson
    Jack Rowe
    Germany Smith
    Jake Stenzel
    Jack Stivetts
    Patsy Tebeau
    Tommy Tucker
    Harry Wright

    New on the ballot:

    Jack Clements
    Frank Killen
    Jouett Meekin
    Patsy Tebeau

    Dropped from the last ballot:

    Mark Baldwin
    Lou Bierbauer
    Charlie Comiskey
    Jerry Denny
    Jack Farrell
    Farmer Vaughn

    The Really Big Hall of Fame:

    Code:
    
    Player:          Times on ballot:          Election percentage:           Year elected:
    
    Cap     Anson           1                        100.00%                       1902                        
    Ross	Barnes          1                        80.00%                        1900
    Charlie Bennett         2                        80.00%                        1901
    Tommy   Bond            3                        88.89%                        1902
    Pete 	Browning        2                        80.00%                        1901
    Charlie Buffinton       3                        66.67%                        1902
    Bob	Caruthers       1                        70.00%                        1900
    John	Clarkson        1                        100.00%                       1900
    Roger   Connor          1                        100.00%                       1902
    Larry	Corcoran        4                        71.43%                        1903
    Candy	Cummings        2                        71.43%                        1904
    Fred	Dunlap          4                        100.00%                       1903 
    Buck    Ewing           1                        100.00%                       1902
    Dave	Foutz           3                        100.00%                       1903
    Pud	Galvin          1                        80.00%                        1900
    Jack	Glasscock       1                        90.00%                        1900
    George  Gore            2                        90.00%                        1901
    Mike	Griffin         1                        85.71%                        1903
    Paul	Hines           2                        90.00%                        1901
    Charley	Jones           4                        85.71%                        1903
    Bill	Joyce           1                        71.43%                        1903
    Tim	Keefe           1                        100.00%                       1900  
    King	Kelly           1                        100.00%                       1900
    Silver	King            2                        100.00%                       1903
    Bill	Lange           1                        85.71%                        1904
    Denny	Lyons           2                        85.71%                        1903
    Bobby   Mathews         3                        66.67%                        1902
    Jim     McCormick       3                        100.00%                       1902
    Ed	McKean          1                        100.00%                       1904
    Sadie	McMahon         3                        71.43%                        1904
    Bid	McPhee          1                        100.00%                       1904
    Cal     McVey           3                        66.67%                        1902
    Levi	Meyerle         4                        85.71%                        1903
    Ed	Morris          5                        71.43%                        1904
    Tony	Mullane         2                        80.00%                        1901
    Billy	Nash            2                        71.43%                        1904
    Tip     O'Neill         3                        88.89%                        1902
    Dickey	Pearce          3                        71.43%                        1903
    Lip     Pike            1                        70.00%                        1901
    Old HossRadbourn        1                        100.00%                       1900
    Hardy   Richardson      2                        90.00%                        1901
    Al	Spalding        1                        90.00%                        1900
    Joe     Start           3                        77.78%                        1902
    Harry	Stovey          2                        70.00%                        1901
    Ezra	Sutton          2                        80.00%                        1901
    Mike	Tiernan         1                        100.00%                       1904
    Monte	Ward            1                        70.00%                        1900
    Mickey	Welch           1                        80.00%                        1901
    Deacon	White           1                        90.00%                        1900
    Jim	Whitney         4                        71.43%                        1903
    George	Wright          1                        80.00%                        1900
    Holdovers:

    Code:
    Player:                Times on ballot:          Previous percentage:          High percentage: 
                                                                                     
    George	Bradley              2                         28.57%                         28.57%
    Tom 	Brown                2                         14.29%                         14.29%
    Tom	Burns                2                         14.29%                         14.29%
    Abner	Dalrymple            2                         42.86%                         42.86%
    Frank	Dwyer                1                         28.57%                         28.57%
    Bob	Ferguson             2                         42.86%                         42.86%
    Silver	Flint                2                         42.86%                         42.86%
    Guy	Hecker               1                         REINST                         REINST
    Bug	Holliday             2                         14.29%                         14.29%
    Joe	Hornung              1                         REINST                         REINST
    Bill    Hutchinson           3                         57.14%                         57.14%       
    Matt	Kilroy               2                         42.86%                         42.86%    
    Henry	Larkin               1                         REINST                         REINST
    Dick	McBride              1                         REINST                         REINST
    John	Morrill              1                         REINST                         REINST
    Dave	Orr                  1                         REINST                         REINST                                 
    Fred    Pfeffer              3                         57.14%                         57.14% 
    Paul	Radford              1                         REINST                         REINST
    John	Reilly               1                         REINST                         REINST
    Yank	Robinson             1                         REINST                         REINST
    Jack	Rowe                 1                         REINST                         REINST
    Germany Smith                1                         WHVF                           WHVF
    Jake	Stenzel              1                         28.57%                         28.57%
    Jack	Stivetts             1                         57.14%                         57.14%
    Tommy	Tucker               1                         14.29%                         14.29%
    Harry	Wright               5                         42.86%                         42.86%
    
    Holdovers dropped:
    
    Mark Baldwin...lack of support
    Lou Bierbauer...lack of support
    Charlie Comiskey...lack of support
    Jerry Denny...lack of support
    Jack Farrell...lack of support
    
    Last year of eligibility:
    
    None.
    Number of voters in each election:

    1900: 10
    1901: 10
    1902: 9
    1903: 7
    1904: 7

    Hall of Fame stats:

    # of players in the Really Big Hall of Fame: 51
    # of players elected by regular election: 51
    Avg. # of players elected during each regular election: 10.2

    Really Big Hall of Fame members by primary position:

    C (2): Charlie Bennett, Buck Ewing
    1B (5): Cap Anson, Roger Connor, Dave Foutz, Cal McVey, Joe Start
    2B (4): Ross Barnes, Fred Dunlap, Bid McPhee, Hardy Richardson
    3B (6): Bill Joyce, Denny Lyons, Levi Meyerle, Billy Nash, Ezra Sutton, Deacon White
    SS (5): Jack Glasscock, Ed McKean, Dickey Pearce, Monte Ward, George Wright
    LF (2): Charley Jones, Tip O'Neill
    CF (6): Pete Browning, George Gore, Mike Griffin, Paul Hines, Bill Lange, Lip Pike
    RF (2): King Kelly, Mike Tiernan
    OF (1): Harry Stovey
    SP (18): Tommy Bond, Charlie Buffinton, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, Larry Corcoran, Candy Cummings, Pud Galvin, Tim Keefe, Silver King, Bobby Mathews, Sadie McMahon, Jim McCormick, Ed Morris, Tony Mullane, Old Hoss Radbourn, Al Spalding, Mickey Welch, Jim Whitney

    Players elected by year:

    1900 (12): Ross Barnes, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, Pud Galvin, Jack Glasscock, Tim Keefe, King Kelly, Old Hoss Radbourn, Al Spalding, Monte Ward, Deacon White, George Wright
    1901 (10): Charlie Bennett, Pete Browning, George Gore, Paul Hines, Tony Mullane, Lip Pike, Hardy Richardson, Harry Stovey, Ezra Sutton, Mickey Welch
    1902 (10): Cap Anson, Tommy Bond, Charlie Buffinton, Roger Connor, Buck Ewing, Bobby Mathews, Jim McCormick, Cal McVey, Tip O'Neill, Joe Start
    1903 (11): Larry Corcoran, Fred Dunlap, Dave Foutz, Mike Griffin, Charley Jones, Bill Joyce, Silver King, Denny Lyons, Levi Meyerle, Dickey Pearce, Jim Whitney
    1904 (8): Candy Cummings, Bill Lange, Ed McKean, Sadie McMahon, Bid McPhee, Ed Morris, Billy Nash, Mike Tiernan

    Players elected by primary decade:

    1870s (10): Ross Barnes, Tommy Bond, Candy Cummings, Bobby Mathews, Cal McVey, Levi Meyerle, Lip Pike, Al Spalding, George Wright
    1880s (31): Cap Anson, Charlie Bennett, Pete Browning, Charlie Buffinton, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, Roger Connor, Larry Corcoran, Fred Dunlap, Buck Ewing, Dave Foutz, Pud Galvin, Jack Glasscock, George Gore, Paul Hines, Charley Jones, Tim Keefe, King Kelly, Jim McCormick, Ed Morris, Tony Mullane, Tip O'Neill, Dickey Pearce, Old Hoss Radbourn, Hardy Richardson, Joe Start, Harry Stovey, Ezra Sutton, Monte Ward, Mickey Welch, Deacon White, Jim Whitney
    1890s (10): Mike Griffin, Bill Joyce, Silver King, Bill Lange, Denny Lyons, Ed McKean, Sadie McMahon, Bid McPhee, Billy Nash, Mike Tiernan

  • #2
    George Bradley
    Tom Brown
    Abner Dalrymple
    Guy Hecker
    Bug Holliday
    Henry Larkin
    Dick McBride
    Dave Orr
    John Reilly
    Jake Stenzel
    Jack Stivetts
    Tommy Tucker

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    • #3
      Really digging deep here....

      Jack Clements
      Frank Dwyer
      Guy Hecker
      Bill Hutchinson
      Frank Killen
      Matt Kilroy
      Henry Larkin
      Dick McBride
      Dave Orr
      John Reilly
      Jack Rowe
      Jack Stivetts
      ------
      Jouett Meekin
      Jake Stenzel

      You should probably also indicate which previously-eliminated guys you've sneaked () back on the ballot. I had already written off Dave Orr and some others on my list. How are you determining who returns and when? Just random?
      *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DJC View Post
        Really digging deep here....

        Jack Clements
        Frank Dwyer
        Guy Hecker
        Bill Hutchinson
        Frank Killen
        Matt Kilroy
        Henry Larkin
        Dick McBride
        Dave Orr
        John Reilly
        Jack Rowe
        Jack Stivetts
        ------
        Jouett Meekin
        Jake Stenzel

        You should probably also indicate which previously-eliminated guys you've sneaked () back on the ballot. I had already written off Dave Orr and some others on my list. How are you determining who returns and when? Just random?
        Oops...I intended to include a list of the guys I *ahem* re-instated...guess it got lost in the digital shuffle of cutting and pasting.

        It's not random who I choose--it's alphabetical, 10 at a time, beginning with the people who dropped off after the 1900 election. Next year may be one or two less, because it projects to be a large ballot.

        The following players were re-instated:

        Guy Hecker
        Joe Hornung
        Henry Larkin
        Dick McBride
        John Morrill
        Dave Orr
        Paul Radford
        John Reilly
        Yank Robinson
        Jack Rowe

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        • #5
          Jack Clements
          Frank Dwyer
          Bob Ferguson
          Silver Flint
          Guy Hecker
          Bill Hutchinson
          Matt Kilroy
          Dick McBride
          Dave Orr
          Fred Pfeffer
          Jack Rowe
          Harry Wright

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          • #6
            Jack Clements
            Abner Dalrymple
            Guy Hecker
            Billy Hutchinson
            Frank Killen
            John Morrill
            Dave Orr
            Fred Pfeffer
            Germany Smith
            Jake Stenzel
            Jack Stivetts
            Harry Wright

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            • #7
              Tom Brown
              Tom Burns
              Jack Clements
              Abner Dalrymple
              Silver Flint
              Guy Hecker
              Bug Holliday
              Matt Kilroy
              Henry Larkin
              Dave Orr
              Fred Pfeffer
              Paul Radford

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              • #8
                Thanks for your vote. The more, the merrier!

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                • #9
                  Tom Brown
                  George Bradley
                  Abner Dalrymple
                  Bob Ferguson
                  Guy Hecker
                  Bill Hutchinson
                  Matt Kilroy
                  Dave Orr
                  Fred Pfeffer
                  John Reilly
                  Jack Stivetts
                  Harry Wright

                  Would have voted for:
                  Silver Flint
                  Patsy Tebeau
                  Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
                  Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
                  Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
                  Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
                  Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

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                  • #10
                    Jack Stivetts 76
                    Jack Clements 73
                    Frank Dwyer 71
                    Guy Hecker 63
                    Dave Orr 62
                    Jack Rowe 61
                    Henry Larkin 54
                    Bill Hutchinson 53
                    John Reilly 49
                    Dick McBride 47
                    Jake Stenzel 40
                    Germany Smith 34

                    I don't have any "would have voted for" guys. Mine was Germany Smith at #12.
                    The Hall of Stats: An alternate Hall of Fame populated by a mathematical formula.

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                    • #11
                      Wow, that week went by really fast. We elected five players this time around:

                      Guy Hecker
                      Dave Orr
                      Jack Clements
                      Bill Hutchinson
                      Jack Stivetts

                      Code:
                      Name, votes received, potential votes, vote percentage
                      
                      Guy		Hecker		7		7		100.00%
                      Dave		Orr		7		7		100.00%
                      Jack		Clements	5		7		71.43%
                      Bill		Hutchinson	5		7		71.43%
                      Jack		Stivetts	5		7		71.43%
                      <---cut-off--->
                      Abner		Dalrymple	4		7		57.14%
                      Matt		Kilroy		4		7		57.14%
                      Henry		Larkin		4		7		57.14%
                      Dick		McBride		4		7		57.14%
                      Fred		Pfeffer		4		7		57.14%
                      John		Reilly		4		7		57.14%
                      Tom		Brown		3		7		42.86%
                      Frank		Dwyer		3		7		42.86%
                      Jack		Rowe		3		7		42.86%
                      Jake		Stenzel		3		7		42.86%
                      Harry		Wright		3		7		42.86%
                      Silver		Flint		2		7		28.57%
                      Bug		Holliday	2		7		28.57%
                      Frank		Killen		2		7		28.57%
                      George 		Bradley		2		7		28.57%
                      Bob		Ferguson	2		7		28.57%
                      Germany		Smith		2		7		28.57%
                      John		Morrill		1		7		14.29%
                      Tommy		Tucker		1		7		14.29%
                      Tom 		Burns		1		7		14.29%
                      Paul		Radford		1		7		14.29%
                      Last edited by Cowtipper; 01-20-2013, 11:36 AM.

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