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  • Really Big Hall of Fame: 1906

    Welcome to the Really Big Hall of Fame, a project dedicated to developing a much more inclusive Hall of Fame. We're all "big Hall" guys here.

    This is like the Progressive Hall of Fame, but with one catch. You MUST vote for 12 players in each election. It doesn't matter if you wouldn't vote for them "in real life." This is the Really Big Hall of Fame. We want a lot of inductees.

    But please take the voting seriously. Please do not just vote ten random players--consider who is on the ballot and vote for the ten who you think were the best, who are most deserving for election.

    To ensure that people follow the "12 player rule", I will be requiring that participating members submit their ballots as posts, rather than via a poll. That way I can ensure accountability.

    Rules and information

    1. A player is eligible five years from the date of his final major league game.
    2. A player may appear on the ballot as many as 15 times.
    3. A player must receive 65% of the vote to be elected.
    4. A player must receive at least 5% of the vote to remain on the ballot.
    5. Elections will last seven days (one week).
    6. Usually, a player must have played 10 seasons to be eligible. But since this is the Really Big Hall of Fame, (admittedly arbitrary) exceptions will made.
    7. For the time being, only major league players will be considered, including NA players. Negro League votes will come later on.
    8. For the time being, a "Would Have Voted For" of fluid allowable size* is permitted. This will save players from being eliminated from the ballot, even if they do not receive any votes.
    9. Please consider only a person's playing career.

    *Zero players if the ballot contains less than 20 names, one player if it contains between 20 and 29 names, two players if it contains between 30 and 39 names and three players if it contains more than 40 names.

    Select your best 12 from this ballot of 47 players. You must vote for 12 players. To save players from ballot elimination, you are also allowed a "would have voted for" list--a list of up to three players you would have voted for had you enough room. This will save them from dropping off the ballot even if they do not receive a vote.

    George Bradley
    Ted Breitenstein
    Tom Brown
    Tom Burns
    Kid Carsey
    Cupid Childs
    Bert Cunningham
    Nig Cuppy
    Abner Dalrymple
    Tommy Dowd
    Frank Dwyer
    Bob Ferguson
    Silver Flint
    Davy Force
    Billy Hamilton
    Pink Hawley
    Bug Holliday
    Frank Killen
    Matt Kilroy
    Henry Larkin
    Al Maul
    Dick McBride
    Jouett Meekin
    John Morrill
    Morgan Murphy
    Fred Pfeffer
    Joe Quinn
    Paul Radford
    John Reilly
    Jack Rowe
    Amos Rusie
    Pop Schriver
    Mike Smith
    Germany Smith
    Harry Staley
    Jake Stenzel
    Patsy Tebeau
    Tommy Tucker
    Curt Welch
    Gus Weyhing
    Will White
    Ned Williamson
    Sam Wise
    George Wood
    Harry Wright
    Tommy York
    George Zettlein

    New on the ballot:

    Ted Breitenstein
    Kid Carsey
    Cupid Childs
    Bert Cunningham
    Nig Cuppy
    Tommy Dowd
    Billy Hamilton
    Pink Hawley
    Al Maul
    Morgan Murphy
    Joe Quinn
    Amos Rusie
    Pop Schriver
    Mike Smith
    Gus Weyhing

    Re-Instated Players:

    Davy Force
    Harry Staley
    Curt Welch
    Will White
    Ned Williamson
    Sam Wise
    George Wood
    Tommy York
    George Zettlein

    Dropped from the last ballot:

    Joe Hornung
    Yank Robinson

    The Really Big Hall of Fame:

    Code:
    
    Player:          Times on ballot:          Election percentage:           Year elected:
    
    Cap     Anson           1                        100.00%                       1902                        
    Ross	Barnes          1                        80.00%                        1900
    Charlie Bennett         2                        80.00%                        1901
    Tommy   Bond            3                        88.89%                        1902
    Pete 	Browning        2                        80.00%                        1901
    Charlie Buffinton       3                        66.67%                        1902
    Bob	Caruthers       1                        70.00%                        1900
    John	Clarkson        1                        100.00%                       1900
    Jack	Clements        1                        71.43%                        1905
    Roger   Connor          1                        100.00%                       1902
    Larry	Corcoran        4                        71.43%                        1903
    Candy	Cummings        2                        71.43%                        1904
    Fred	Dunlap          4                        100.00%                       1903 
    Buck    Ewing           1                        100.00%                       1902
    Dave	Foutz           3                        100.00%                       1903
    Pud	Galvin          1                        80.00%                        1900
    Jack	Glasscock       1                        90.00%                        1900
    George  Gore            2                        90.00%                        1901
    Mike	Griffin         1                        85.71%                        1903
    Guy	Hecker          2                        100.00%                       1905          
    Paul	Hines           2                        90.00%                        1901
    Bill	Hutchinson      4                        71.43%                        1905
    Charley	Jones           4                        85.71%                        1903
    Bill	Joyce           1                        71.43%                        1903
    Tim	Keefe           1                        100.00%                       1900  
    King	Kelly           1                        100.00%                       1900
    Silver	King            2                        100.00%                       1903
    Bill	Lange           1                        85.71%                        1904
    Denny	Lyons           2                        85.71%                        1903
    Bobby   Mathews         3                        66.67%                        1902
    Jim     McCormick       3                        100.00%                       1902
    Ed	McKean          1                        100.00%                       1904
    Sadie	McMahon         3                        71.43%                        1904
    Bid	McPhee          1                        100.00%                       1904
    Cal     McVey           3                        66.67%                        1902
    Levi	Meyerle         4                        85.71%                        1903
    Ed	Morris          5                        71.43%                        1904
    Tony	Mullane         2                        80.00%                        1901
    Billy	Nash            2                        71.43%                        1904
    Tip     O'Neill         3                        88.89%                        1902
    Dave	Orr             2                        100.00%                       1905
    Dickey	Pearce          3                        71.43%                        1903
    Lip     Pike            1                        70.00%                        1901
    Old HossRadbourn        1                        100.00%                       1900
    Hardy   Richardson      2                        90.00%                        1901
    Al	Spalding        1                        90.00%                        1900
    Joe     Start           3                        77.78%                        1902
    Jack	Stivetts        2                        71.43%                        1905
    Harry	Stovey          2                        70.00%                        1901
    Ezra	Sutton          2                        80.00%                        1901
    Mike	Tiernan         1                        100.00%                       1904
    Monte	Ward            1                        70.00%                        1900
    Mickey	Welch           1                        80.00%                        1901
    Deacon	White           1                        90.00%                        1900
    Jim	Whitney         4                        71.43%                        1903
    George	Wright          1                        80.00%                        1900
    Holdovers:

    Code:
    Player:                Times on ballot:          Previous percentage:          High percentage: 
                                                                                     
    George	Bradley              3                         28.57%                         28.57%
    Tom 	Brown                3                         42.86%                         42.86%
    Tom	Burns                3                         14.29%                         14.29%
    Abner	Dalrymple            3                         42.86%                         42.86%
    Frank	Dwyer                2                         42.86%                         42.86%
    Bob	Ferguson             3                         28.57%                         42.86%
    Silver	Flint                3                         28.57%                         42.86%
    Davy	Force                1                         REINST                         REINST
    Bug	Holliday             3                         28.57%                         28.57%   
    Frank	Killen               1                         28.57%                         28.57% 
    Matt	Kilroy               3                         57.14%                         57.14%    
    Henry	Larkin               2                         57.14%                         57.14%
    Dick	McBride              2                         57.14%                         57.14%
    Jouett	Meekin               1                         WHVF                           WHVF
    John	Morrill              2                         14.29%                         14.29%                              
    Fred    Pfeffer              4                         57.14%                         57.14% 
    Paul	Radford              2                         14.29%                         14.29%
    John	Reilly               2                         57.14%                         57.14%
    Jack	Rowe                 2                         42.86%                         42.86%
    Germany Smith                2                         28.57%                         28.57%
    Harry 	Staley               1                         REINST                         REINST
    Jake	Stenzel              2                         42.86%                         42.86%
    Patsy 	Tebeau               1                         WHVF                           WHVF
    Tommy	Tucker               2                         14.29%                         14.29%
    Curt 	Welch                1                         REINST                         REINST
    Will 	White                1                         REINST                         REINST
    Ned 	Williamson           1                         REINST                         REINST
    Sam 	Wise                 1                         REINST                         REINST
    George 	Wood                 1                         REINST                         REINST
    Harry	Wright               6                         42.86%                         42.86%
    Tommy 	York                 1                         REINST                         REINST
    George 	Zettlein             1                         REINST                         REINST
    
    Holdovers dropped:
    
    Joe Hornung...lack of support
    Yank Robinson...lack of support
    
    Last year of eligibility:
    
    None.
    Number of voters in each election:

    1900: 10
    1901: 10
    1902: 9
    1903: 7
    1904: 7
    1905: 7

    Hall of Fame stats:

    # of players in the Really Big Hall of Fame: 56
    # of players elected by regular election: 56
    Avg. # of players elected during each regular election: 9.3

    Really Big Hall of Fame members by primary position:

    C (3): Charlie Bennett, Jack Clements, Buck Ewing
    1B (6): Cap Anson, Roger Connor, Dave Foutz, Cal McVey, Dave Orr, Joe Start
    2B (4): Ross Barnes, Fred Dunlap, Bid McPhee, Hardy Richardson
    3B (6): Bill Joyce, Denny Lyons, Levi Meyerle, Billy Nash, Ezra Sutton, Deacon White
    SS (5): Jack Glasscock, Ed McKean, Dickey Pearce, Monte Ward, George Wright
    LF (2): Charley Jones, Tip O'Neill
    CF (6): Pete Browning, George Gore, Mike Griffin, Paul Hines, Bill Lange, Lip Pike
    RF (2): King Kelly, Mike Tiernan
    OF (1): Harry Stovey
    SP (21): Tommy Bond, Charlie Buffinton, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, Larry Corcoran, Candy Cummings, Pud Galvin, Guy Hecker, Bill Hutchinson, Tim Keefe, Silver King, Bobby Mathews, Sadie McMahon, Jim McCormick, Ed Morris, Tony Mullane, Old Hoss Radbourn, Al Spalding, Jack Stivetts, Mickey Welch, Jim Whitney

    Players elected by year:

    1900 (12): Ross Barnes, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, Pud Galvin, Jack Glasscock, Tim Keefe, King Kelly, Old Hoss Radbourn, Al Spalding, Monte Ward, Deacon White, George Wright
    1901 (10): Charlie Bennett, Pete Browning, George Gore, Paul Hines, Tony Mullane, Lip Pike, Hardy Richardson, Harry Stovey, Ezra Sutton, Mickey Welch
    1902 (10): Cap Anson, Tommy Bond, Charlie Buffinton, Roger Connor, Buck Ewing, Bobby Mathews, Jim McCormick, Cal McVey, Tip O'Neill, Joe Start
    1903 (11): Larry Corcoran, Fred Dunlap, Dave Foutz, Mike Griffin, Charley Jones, Bill Joyce, Silver King, Denny Lyons, Levi Meyerle, Dickey Pearce, Jim Whitney
    1904 (8): Candy Cummings, Bill Lange, Ed McKean, Sadie McMahon, Bid McPhee, Ed Morris, Billy Nash, Mike Tiernan
    1905 (5): Jack Clements, Guy Hecker, Bill Hutchinson, Dave Orr, Jack Stivetts

    Players elected by primary decade:

    1870s (10): Ross Barnes, Tommy Bond, Candy Cummings, Bobby Mathews, Cal McVey, Levi Meyerle, Lip Pike, Al Spalding, George Wright
    1880s (33): Cap Anson, Charlie Bennett, Pete Browning, Charlie Buffinton, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, Roger Connor, Larry Corcoran, Fred Dunlap, Buck Ewing, Dave Foutz, Pud Galvin, Jack Glasscock, George Gore, Guy Hecker, Paul Hines, Charley Jones, Tim Keefe, King Kelly, Jim McCormick, Ed Morris, Tony Mullane, Tip O'Neill, Dave Orr, Dickey Pearce, Old Hoss Radbourn, Hardy Richardson, Joe Start, Harry Stovey, Ezra Sutton, Monte Ward, Mickey Welch, Deacon White, Jim Whitney
    1890s (13): Jack Clements, Mike Griffin, Bill Hutchinson, Bill Joyce, Silver King, Bill Lange, Denny Lyons, Ed McKean, Sadie McMahon, Bid McPhee, Billy Nash, Jack Stivetts, Mike Tiernan
    Last edited by Cowtipper; 01-20-2013, 05:20 PM.

  • #2
    Cupid Childs
    Frank Dwyer
    Bob Ferguson
    Davy Force
    Billy Hamilton
    Matt Kilroy
    Dick McBride
    Fred Pfeffer
    Jack Rowe
    Amos Rusie
    Gus Weyhing
    Harry Wright
    Last edited by jjpm74; 01-21-2013, 08:09 AM.

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    • #3
      Reinstated players:

      Davy Force
      Harry Staley
      Curt Welch
      Will White
      Ned Williamson
      Sam Wise
      George Wood
      Tommy York
      George Zettlein

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      • #4
        George Bradley
        Tom Brown
        Cupid Childs
        Billy Hamilton
        Henry Larkin
        Dick McBride
        John Reilly
        Amos Rusie
        Jake Stenzel
        Tommy Tucker
        Gus Weyhing
        Will White

        WHVF:

        Nig Cuppy
        Abner Dalrymple
        Mike Smith

        Bug Holliday drops from my ballot.

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        • #5
          Ted Breitenstein 96
          Cupid Childs 86
          Nig Cuppy 75
          Frank Dwyer 71
          Davy Force 47
          Billy Hamilton 132
          Dick McBride 47
          Amos Rusie 125
          Mike Smith 78
          Ned Williamson 80
          Henry Larkin 54
          Jack Rowe 61
          The Hall of Stats: An alternate Hall of Fame populated by a mathematical formula.

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          • #6
            Ted Breitenstein
            Cupid Childs
            Nig Cuppy
            Frank Dwyer
            Billy Hamilton
            Pink Hawley
            Matt Kilroy
            Henry Larkin
            Jack Rowe
            Amos Rusie
            Mike Smith
            Ned Williamson
            ------
            Frank Killen
            Dick McBride
            John Reilly
            *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

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            • #7
              Cupid Childs
              Abner Dalrymple
              Silver Flint
              Davy Force
              Billy Hamilton
              Bug Holliday
              Matt Hilroy
              Henry Larkin
              Fred Pfeffer
              Paul Raford
              Amos Rusie
              Will White

              -----
              Tom Brown
              Curt Welch
              Ned Williamson
              Sam Wise

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              • #8
                What's the argument for Silver Flint? Just curious.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cowtipper View Post
                  What's the argument for Silver Flint? Just curious.
                  Wow, good point. I have replaced him with Gus Weyhing. I think I was confusing him with Silver King.

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                  • #10
                    Tom Brown
                    George Bradley
                    Cupid Childs
                    Abner Dalrymple
                    Billy Hamilton
                    Bob Ferguson
                    Matt Kilroy
                    Fred Pfeffer
                    Amos Rusie
                    Guy Weyring
                    Ned Williamson
                    Harry Wright

                    Would have voted for:
                    Henry Larkin
                    Jake Stenzel
                    Wil White
                    Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
                    Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
                    Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
                    Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
                    Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

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                    • #11
                      Cupid Childs
                      Abner Dalrymple
                      Billy Hamilton
                      Frank Killen
                      John Morrill
                      Fred Pfeffer
                      Amos Rusie
                      Germany Smith
                      Jake Stenzel
                      Gus Weyhing
                      Will White
                      Harry Wright

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                      • #12
                        After electing many players in each of the first few elections, we have tapered off a bit recently, electing three folks this time around. Those three are Cupid Childs, Billy Hamilton and Amos Rusie.

                        Code:
                        Name, votes received, potential number of votes, percentage of votes received
                        
                        Cupid	Childs		7	7	100.00%
                        Billy	Hamilton	7	7	100.00%
                        Amos	Rusie		7	7	100.00%
                        <---cut-off--->
                        Henry	Larkin		4	7	57.14%
                        Matt	Kilroy		4	7	57.14%
                        Fred	Pfeffer		4	7	57.14%
                        Gus	Weyhing		4	7	57.14%
                        Frank	Dwyer		3	7	42.86%
                        Dick	McBride		3	7	42.86%
                        Jack	Rowe		3	7	42.86%
                        Davey	Force		3	7	42.86%
                        Ned	Williamson	3	7	42.86%
                        Will	White		3	7	42.86%
                        Harry	Wright		3	7	42.86%
                        Abner	Dalrymple	3	7	42.86%
                        Ted	Breitenstein	2	7	28.57%
                        Nig	Cuppy		2	7	28.57%
                        Mike	Smith		2	7	28.57%
                        Bob	Ferguson	2	7	28.57%
                        Tom	Brown		2	7	28.57%
                        Jake	Stenzel		2	7	28.57%
                        Silver	Flint		1	7	14.29%
                        George	Bradley		1	7	14.29%
                        John	Reilly		1	7	14.29%
                        Tommy	Tucker		1	7	14.29%
                        Pink	Hawley		1	7	14.29%
                        Bug	Holliday	1	7	14.29%
                        Paul	Radford		1	7	14.29%
                        Frank	Killen		1	7	14.29%
                        John	Morrill		1	7	14.29%
                        Germany	Smith		1	7	14.29%

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