I am sick of all this crap about Buck Weaver in the Hall of Fame. He wasn't even that good. Sure, he shouldn't be banned from baseball (even though that doesn't matter anymore because he's dead). If he didn't supposedly throw a World Series, nobody would know who the hell he was. If you don't believe me, go look up his stats right now at Baseball Reference.com. So all you people will just shut up about Buck Weaver in the Hall of Fame. If you let him in you should let in players like Kid Elberfeld, Vinny Castilla, and Tim Wallach.
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I haven't seen much talk in this forum about Buck Weaver deserving to be in the HOF. I have seen a lot of discussion about reinstating him, and deservedly so.
His last 2 seasons were pretty good, and at 29 he still had the potential for 5-8 more good seasons. Who knows what he would have accomplished if he had the chance?
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You could reinstate him but he is too average for enshrinement. Just does not have the statistics to allow for enshrinement, just average or slightly above average to me....Best posts ever:
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Originally posted by 538280I am sick of all this crap about Buck Weaver in the Hall of Fame. He wasn't even that good. Sure, he shouldn't be banned from baseball (even though that doesn't matter anymore because he's dead). If he didn't supposedly throw a World Series, nobody would know who the hell he was. If you don't believe me, go look up his stats right now at Baseball Reference.com. So all you people will just shut up about Buck Weaver in the Hall of Fame. If you let him in you should let in players like Kid Elberfeld, Vinny Castilla, and Tim Wallach.
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I didn't see a single mention of Weaver as a HOF player in the Rose and Jackson thread. And I've been there from the start. One post said a shrine should be built, based on the wrong done to Weaver, but nowhere did I see actual advocating of the HOF for Weaver as a player.Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
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For Weaver to even have sniffed the HOF, he would have had to remain at shortstop. The move to 3B hurt him.
IF he hadn't sold out his team with the Black Sox (he failed to stop the fix) and had he returned to SS, he MAY have ended up with a .280 or so BA with inflated 1920s numbers. Given the crew enshrined by Frankie Frisch, he MAY have had a shot that way. But Weaver was NOT a HOF-caliber player, and being a Black Sox just makes it more nauseating."I do not care if half the league strikes. Those who do it will encounter quick retribution. All will be suspended and I don't care if it wrecks the National League for five years. This is the United States of America and one citizen has as much right to play as another. The National League will go down the line with Robinson whatever the consequences. You will find if you go through with your intention that you have been guilty of complete madness."
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Not Weaver but
Weaver only played 9 years. There is a ten year minimum.
He was just an average hitter. .275 lifetime BA. (give or take a few points. I looked it up. But now I don't remember the exact BA) And this was in an era when people were still hitting .400.
He claimed he was not in on the fix. I tend to believe him. He probably never have been banned.
But HOF, no.
Jackson, Yes.
Cicotte-A strong maybe.
But that is it.
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