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  • What does Hall of Fame mean?

    I want some perspective from the distinguished members of this forum about the words "hall of fame". Does within the meaning of the words represent who should be elected? That is the famous players.

    A famous player may not be one of the greatest. For instance, Derek Jeter is a current famous player but probably not the greatest. Although it seems like under either standard Jeter is a famous and a great player.

    Bernie Williams may be a more famous player than say Jeff Bagwell, but does that mean that Williams should get in the Hall of Fame before Bagwell. that is if we define fame as popularity.

    Moreover, if he define fame as someone who is not infamous. Does that eliminate some players from being in the Hall of Fame so that a Joe Jackson, a Pete Rose, a Jose Cancesco may indeed be classified as infamous players, and do not deserve membership in the Hall of Fame. They would therefore deserve membership in the Hall of the Infamous.

    I would like others perspective on this.

  • #2
    I'm not distinguished but....

    'Hall of Remember These Great Ballplayers After They (And You) Kick The Bucket Because They Shouldnt Be Forgotten By Time'......

    ....was probably too long, so they replaced it with the word 'fame'.


    • #3
      [QUOTE=calhalo]'Hall of Remember These Great Ballplayers After They (And You) Kick The Bucket Because They Shouldnt Be Forgotten By Time'......

      Completely in agreement. The HoF was set up in a time before the media explosion from the advent of TV, and so Fame was earned on the ballfield or in newspapers. Radio was just getting started, sports magazines were still years away, and the only journalists who had a role were newspapermen.

      Again, fame back then was earned on the field. Ballplayers were generally humble folk off of the field (unless you were named Dizzy Dean or Babe Ruth). Ballplayers would promote products because they needed the income, not because they were greedy.

      I try to consider how the ballplayer will be remembered a few years from now whenever I add my 2 cents. In another current thread which addresses how quickly sluggers decline from high performance, I have mentioned this.
      Catfish Hunter, RIP. Mark Fidrych, RIP. Skip Caray, RIP. Tony Gwynn, #19, RIP

      A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. -- Winston Churchill. (Please take note that I've recently become aware of how this quote applies to a certain US president. This is a coincidence, and the quote was first added to this signature too far back to remember when).

      Experience is the hardest teacher. She gives the test first and the lesson later. -- Dan Quisenberry.


      • #4
        Induction into the National Baseball Hall of Fame is Baseball's Big Honor. In fact, it is the ONLY honor that is bestowed on a player for his CAREER.

        One can be inducted into the HOF of an individual team, but it's nowhere near the honor of being inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame.

        I don't know that it was seen as this when the HOF opened. I don't know that players saw this as a big deal. It's a big deal now, though, and it's the ONLY career honor that a ballplayer can receive from all of baseball.
        "I do not care if half the league strikes. Those who do it will encounter quick retribution. All will be suspended and I don't care if it wrecks the National League for five years. This is the United States of America and one citizen has as much right to play as another. The National League will go down the line with Robinson whatever the consequences. You will find if you go through with your intention that you have been guilty of complete madness."

        NL President Ford Frick, 1947


        • #5
          The Hall of Fame is a shrine to the greatest players to play ball. It recognizes records and those who set them, too.
          "He studied hitting like a broker studies the stock market, how a scribe studies the scriptures" - Carl Yastrzemski on Ted Williams

          "The greatest clutch hitter in Red Sox history has done it again! Big Papi!" - Don Orsillo's call of Ortiz's walk-off single


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