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  • jalbright
    started a topic 1965 Best of Baseball election thread

    1965 Best of Baseball election thread

    This is our thirtieth election in this project. The entire rules follow.

    This election will end at 11:59:59 PM EST on February 12, 2010.

    The prior election, and the ballots of the 1964 voters, are in this thread

  • jalbright
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    We had 14 player ballots and 11 contributor ballots. On the player side, we inducted Stan Musial, John Beckwith and Harry Stovey. The full results are as follows:
    Code:
    Player…………	votes	pts
    Musial, Stan	14	167
    Beckwith, John	9	67
    Stovey , Harry	9	63
    Gordon, Joe	9	57
    Gore , George	7	50
    Carey , Max	8	46
    Hill , Pete……..	8	46
    Terry , Bill	6	45
    Bennett , C	5	37
    Doerr, Bobby	9	37
    Wynn, Early	9	35
    Sutton , Ezra	5	32
    Thompson , S	3	32
    Grant , Frank	5	30
    Klein, Chuck	3	29
    Galvin , Pud	5	28
    Ferrell, Wes	3	26
    Glasscock , J	4	22
    Start , Joe	2	21
    McGinnity , Joe	4	20
    Joss , Addie	3	19
    Caruthers , B 	4	18
    Starffin, V	3	15
    Dean, Dizzy	3	14
    Duffy , Hugh	2	13
    Averill, Earl	4	11
    Browning , P	2	10
    Berger , Wally	1	9
    Faber , Red	1	9
    Jennings , H	1	9
    Roush , Edd 	1	9
    Sewell , Joe	1	9
    Brown, Willard	1	7
    Dandridge, Ray	1	7
    Keller , Charlie	1	7
    Wallace , B	1	6
    Lemon, Bob	2	4
    Maranville , R	1	4
    McCormick , J	1	4
    Mendez , Jose	1	4
    Oms, Alejandro	1	3
    Richardson , H	1	3
    Rizzuto , Phil	1	3
    Grimes , B	1	2
    Welch , Mickey	1	2
    Smith, Hilton	1	1
    On the contributor side, we inducted Tom Connolly. The full results are as follows:
    Code:
    Contributor…….	votes	pts
    Connolly , Tom	8	30
    Weiss, George	11	28
    Taylor , C. I.	8	27
    Chance , Frank	8	23
    Pearce, Dickey	5	11
    Frick, Ford	2	10
    Bolden, Ed	2	8
    Caylor , O. P.	1	5
    Conlon , C	3	4
    Evans, Billy	2	4
    Hubbard, Cal	1	4
    Southworth, B	1	4
    Mutrie, Jim	1	3
    Ruppert , Jacob	1	3
    Manley, Effa	1	1

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  • jaxxr
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    1 Addie Joss
    2 Stan Musial
    3 Bill Terry
    4 Chuck Klein
    5 Dizzy Dean
    6 Ray Dandridge
    7 Hugh Duffy
    8 Joe McGinnity
    9 Early Wynn
    10 Pud Galvin
    11 Bob Caruthers
    12 Max Carey

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  • jalbright
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    I join in welcoming our newest voter, ConnieMack.

    We've got just over 39 1/2 hours left in this election as I write. Time to get your ballot in if you're voting this election!

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  • Paul Wendt
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    According to the history by Vlasich,
    Frick was practically the author of the Hall of Fame itself, not the Museum, which was a Cooperstown idea.

    That book covers the development of the museum, hall of fame, and baseball centennial, including the Doubleday and Cartwright stories.
    ...

    Now I see that Vlasich wrote a later book on the Hall of Fame selection history.
    #
    A legend for the legendary: the origin of the Baseball Hall of Fame - Google Books Result
    James A. Vlasich - 1990 - Sports & Recreation - 266 pages
    Indeed, the story of the building of the Baseball Hall of Fame is filled with intrigue worthy of a political thriller.
    books.google.com/books?isbn=0879724943... -
    #
    James A. Vlasich - The Road to Cooperstown: A Critical History of ...
    by JA Vlasich - 2003
    Certain myths, axioms, and trends involving the Hall of Fame election process ... James A. Vlasich is a professor of history at Southern Utah University in ...
    muse.jhu.edu/journals/nine/v011/11.2vlasich.html -

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  • ConnieMack
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    Originally posted by Paul Wendt View Post
    Welcome, Mr. Mack
    You are the first person we elected.
    Why Ford Frick?
    Honored to be the first person elected.

    Why Frick ?

    My reasons are His long service to the game, 17 years as National League president, presiding over the time of integration, threatening suspensions to any players who planned to boycott games because of Jackie Robinson being in the lineup.
    Another 14 or 15 years as Commissioner of Baseball, reigning over the first league expansions and Bringing in the Baseball draft.
    I believe He was also instrumental in wanting a National Baseball Museum , which ultimately lead to the National Baseball Hall of Fame.

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  • Paul Wendt
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    Welcome, Mr. Mack
    You are the first person we elected.
    Why Ford Frick?

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  • ConnieMack
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    Players

    1 - Stan Musial
    2 - Sam Thompson
    3 - Chuck Klein
    4 - Joe Gordon
    5 - Bill Terry
    6 - Pud Galvin
    7 - Bobby Doerr
    8 - Pete Browning
    9 - Early Wynn
    10 - Dizzy Dean
    11 - Bob Lemon
    12 - Earl Averill


    Contributors

    1 - Ford Frick
    2 - Tom Connaly
    3 - George Weiss
    4 - C.I. Taylor
    5 - Charles Conlon

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  • Paul Wendt
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    Hilton Smith

    Thanks to Hall of Merit newcomer Alex King there has been some new sabrmetric discussion of Negro Leagues players this winter. For Hilton Smith that includes an estimate of his extraordinary value as a batter.
    Hilton Smith at the Hall of Merit

    Newly eligible candidates will dominate the Hall of Merit election for 2011 as they did for 2010 but Smith will begin to get some votes.

    By the way, the new candidates stand so tall that election season, October/November, may not be relevant to most players in the backlog and vice versa. New sources and new discussion for backloggers may be almost as likely at a random time during the year.

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  • jalbright
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    We have two voters from last election yet to vote in this one: Brad Harris and jaxxr. If they haven't voted by Monday, I'll PM them.


    Next election, we'll add three new names to our contributor list:
    Code:
    Hutchinson , Fred
    Reese , Jimmie
    Sewell , Luke
    We'll also add the following to our eligible players:
    Code:
    Adams , Bobby
    Campanella , Roy
    Hearn , Jim 
    Newhouser , Hal
    Pafko , Andy
    Spahn , Warren
    Valo , Elmer
    Spahn will be #1 for me, and Campy #2. The wild card is how Newhouser does.

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  • jalbright
    replied
    We now have quorums on both sides of the ballot.

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  • Freakshow
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    1 Stan Musial
    2 Joe Start
    3 George Gore
    4 Red Faber
    5 Wes Ferrell
    6 Joe Gordon
    7 Ezra Sutton
    8 Frank Grant
    9 Jack Glasscock
    10 Bobby Doerr
    11 Pete Hill
    12 Max Carey

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  • AstrosFan
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    1. Stan Musial
    2. Max Carey
    3. John Beckwith
    4. Harry Stovey
    5. Earl Averill
    6. Bill Terry
    7. Joe Gordon
    8. Bobby Doerr
    9. George Gore
    10. Pete Hill
    11. Frank Grant
    12. Early Wynn

    1. C. I. Taylor
    2. George Weiss
    3. Tom Connolly
    4. Frank Chance
    5. Dickey Pearce

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  • jalbright
    replied
    We now have a quorum on the player side, and are one short of that status on the contributor side.

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  • Tiboreau
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    1. Stan Musial
    2. Pete Hill
    3. Wes Ferrell
    4. Hughie Jennings
    5. George Gore
    6. Charlie Keller
    7. Bobby Wallace
    8. Charlie Bennett
    9. Jose Mendez
    10. Alejandro Oms
    11. Bobby Doerr
    12. Jack Glasscock

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