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  • #31
    Originally posted by J W View Post
    So, if Pierce is at or near the bottom of elected pitchers, and Tiant is at or near the top of the holdovers, then they would have similar value right?
    Similar esteem among Hall of Merit voters, yes.
    (I haven't checked the career Pennants Added measure which once fingered McGinnity and once Lemon.)

    So replacement level is constant regardless of age, using normalized stats I assume?
    I don't understand.
    :nicht verstehe:

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    • #32
      If Player A plays in league average X, and Player B plays in league average Y:
      - Player A is compared to replacement level normalized to X
      - Player B is compared to replacement level normalized to Y

      Or is replacement level the same no matter what the era? I guess in a roundabout way I'm asking, how is replacement level determined?
      http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...-showalter.gif

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      • #33
        No, replacement level is not constant.
        Every measure of wins above replacement tries to measure it under particular circumstances.

        "Normalize" may be a misleading term. If expansion depresses replacement level, that does make all players more valuable, except as their skills decline in concert. What should be the base for normalization, the "norm"?

        From Dan Rosenheck at the Hall of Merit, I understand that the author of Baseball-Reference WAR, Sean Smith estimates replacement level W rates for groups defined by decade and fielding position, such as 1960s shortstops. In general such an approach means that the estimate "jumps" between 1959 and 1960 and then remains fixed until it jumps again between 1969 and 1970. (This is bad in principle, I don't know how bad in magnitude.)

        Unfortunately I don't "know" from Dan or anyone else how Smith handles data from before and after any plausibly important change such as expansion.
        Last edited by Paul Wendt; 03-11-2011, 11:47 AM.

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        • #34
          1 Hardy Richardson
          2 Hugh Jennings
          3 Cal McVey
          4 Eppa Rixey
          5 Joe Kelley
          6 Jimmy Sheckard
          7 Roger Bresnahan
          8 Lip Pike
          9 Joe Torre
          10 Jake Beckley
          11 Darrell Evans
          12 Bill Freehan
          Last edited by Paul Wendt; 03-15-2011, 06:59 AM.

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          • #35
            Just a reminder that this election will be open only a little over another 7 hours.
            Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
            Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
            A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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            • #36
              We had 13 player ballots and 10 contributor ballots. We elected Roger Bresnahan, Hughie Jennings and Luis Tiant. On the contributor side, Gus Greenlee got the nod on the second tiebreaker (4 voters named him higher than Rizzuto, 4 did the opposite, so it went to how many votes each man got, and Greenlee won 6-5).

              The full results, players first:

              Code:
              Players……………..	votes	pts
              Bresnahan , Roger	10	78
              Jennings , Hughie	9	77
              Tiant, Luis	9	73
              Torre, Joe	9	70
              Joss , Addie	6	60
              Roush , Edd 	7	58
              Kelley , Joe	9	54
              Wynn, Jimmy	8	53
              Brown, Willard	8	49
              Rixey , Eppa	5	38
              Grimes , Burleigh	4	37
              Evans, Darrell	5	28
              Keller , Charlie	4	27
              Sheckard , Jimmy	5	27
              Brock, Lou	4	26
              Berger , Wally	3	23
              McVey , Cal	3	23
              Beckley , Jake	3	22
              Cepeda, Perucho	5	16
              Smith, Reggie	2	15
              Aparicio, Luis	3	14
              Richardson , Hardy	2	13
              Freehan, Bill	4	11
              Childs , Cupid	2	9
              Howard, Frank	1	9
              Lundy , Dick	1	9
              Pike , Lip	2	9
              Cepeda, Orlando	1	8
              Gomez, Lefty	1	8
              Bando, Sal	2	7
              Rizzuto , Phil	1	6
              Sewell , Joe	1	6
              Fingers, Rollie	1	5
              Matlock, Leroy	1	5
              Perez, Tony	1	5
              Rice , Sam	1	5
              Shocker, Urban	3	5
              Bancroft , Dave	1	4
              Newcombe, Don	1	4
              Yamamoto, Koji	1	4
              Dandridge, Ray	1	3
              Mullane , Tony	1	3
              Trouppe, Quincy	2	3
              Leach , Tommy	1	2
              Maranville , R	1	2
              Next, the contributors:
              Code:
              contributors…………	votes	pts
              Greenlee, Gus	6	20
              Rizzuto, Phil	5	20
              Caylor , O. P.	5	15
              Harris, Vic	5	13
              Scully, Vin	5	13
              Ferguson, Bob	4	11
              Chandler, Happy	2	8
              Elias, Al Munro	4	8
              Evans, Billy	2	8
              Krichell, Paul	2	6
              Abe, Iso.....	2	5
              Jobe, Frank	1	5
              Caray, Harry	1	4
              Smith, Red	1	4
              Martin, Billy	1	3
              McCarthy, Tommy	1	2
              Murnane, Tim	1	2
              Murtaugh, Danny	1	2
              Grimm, Charlie	1	1
              Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
              Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
              A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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