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  • #16
    1. Roger Clemens
    2. Mark McGwire
    3. Kirby Puckett
    4. Edgar Martinez
    5. Fred McGriff
    6. Burleigh Grimes
    7. Luis Aparicio
    8. Lefty Gomez
    9. Eppa Rixey
    10. Jake Beckley
    11. Lou Brock
    12. Ray Dandridge

    Contributors

    1. Bucky Harris
    2. Ernie Harwell
    3. Doug Harvey
    4. George Steinbrenner
    5. Red Smith
    Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
    Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
    Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
    Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
    Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

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    • #17
      1 Roger Clemens
      2 Mark McGwire
      3 Lou Brock
      4 Edgar Martinez
      5 Fred McGriff
      6 Eppa Rixey
      7 Luis Aparicio
      8 Sal Bando
      9 Tony Mullane
      10 Urban Schocker
      11 Billy Pierce
      12 Burleigh Grimes

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      • #18
        We've got two people who voted in the last election yet to vote in this one, Brad Harris and Dogdaze. I'll follow up with either or both of them if they haven't voted by Monday. The top three players are far enough ahead that we'll still have an official result with the nine ballots we have on that side. On the contributor side, though, the election is tight and there's only eight ballots.

        We have some real heavyweights among the new additions to the ballot. On the player side, we have the following group:
        Code:
        Beck , Rod
        Bonds , Barry
        Buhner , Jay
        Canseco , Jose
        Clark , Will
        Gooden , Dwight
        Grace , Mark
        Guillen , Ozzie
        Larkin , Barry
        Palmeiro , Rafael
        Saberhagen , Bret
        Among the contributors, we have:
        Code:
        Gaston , Cito
        LaRussa , Tony
        Bonds will be #1 on my ballot, followed by Larkin. Will Clark will also make the ballot, but I'm not sure where just yet. LaRussa will be high on my ballot, but since the race is so tight, I'm not sure exactly how that will shake out.
        Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
        Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
        A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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        • #19
          Players:

          1. Edgar Martinez
          2. Lou Brock
          3. Luis Aparicio
          4. Eppa Rixey
          5. Wally Berger
          6. Sal Bando
          7. Bruce Sutter
          8. Dan Quisenberry
          9. Kirby Puckett
          10. Ray Dandridge
          11. Chino Smith
          12. Willie Randolph

          Contributors:

          1. David Neft
          2. Shigeru Mizuhara
          3. Alex Pompez
          4. Doug Harvey
          5. George Steinbrenner

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jalbright View Post
            We've got two people who voted in the last election yet to vote in this one, Brad Harris and Dogdaze. I'll follow up with either or both of them if they haven't voted by Monday. The top three players are far enough ahead that we'll still have an official result with the nine ballots we have on that side. On the contributor side, though, the election is tight and there's only eight ballots.
            After this election, how many elections remain before this goes annual? Who are the stronger players and contributors coming up in those remaining elections?

            Looking at the next election, Bonds and Larkin should run away with this. Will Clark is also strong enough at this point that he should make the majority of ballots. He has a good chance to sail right in depending on how everyone views him. Clark was good enough to end up around the middle of my ballot next year. I'd definitely put Sal Bando ahead of Clark and also have Puckett, Shocker, E. Martinez and Munson ahead of him.

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            • #21

              Players:

              1. Edgar Martinez
              2. Lou Brock
              3. Luis Aparicio
              4. Eppa Rixey
              5. Wally Berger
              6. Sal Bando
              7. Bruce Sutter
              8. Dan Quisenberry
              9. Kirby Puckett
              10. Ray Dandridge
              11. Chino Smith
              12. Willie Randolph
              Boycotting on steroids background?

              Is this permitted?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Jar of Flies View Post
                Boycotting on steroids background?

                Is this permitted?
                Yup, I don't think juicers are Hall of Fame worthy, but if the rule is I have to vote for them even if they cheated using roids, I'll add them with a "Bleech" as PVNICK did!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Jar of Flies View Post
                  Boycotting on steroids background?

                  Is this permitted?
                  It's at the discretion of the voters. We elected Joe Jackson, who IMHO did something far worse than juicers.
                  Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                  Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                  A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post
                    After this election, how many elections remain before this goes annual? Who are the stronger players and contributors coming up in those remaining elections?
                    We will vote through 2011. The way the eligibility rules for this project are set up, we don't know necessarily know everyone who will be eligible for 2012. In fact, in 2011, Jamie Moyer will be eligible as he missed a full season in an age 45 or beyond season. There aren't a lot of guys who would be affected, but it's enough of a factor that I will not go beyond the calendar with this project.

                    For 2012, I think only Tim Wakefield could be added to the list, and I doubt he'd draw much interest.
                    Last edited by jalbright; 10-03-2011, 06:24 AM.
                    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                    • #25
                      We got 10 ballots on the player ballot, but we only had nine on the contributor side. The contributor results were too close to be decisive with that many votes, so we elected no one from that ballot. On the player side, we elected Roger Clemens, Edgar Martinez and Mark McGwire.

                      On the contributor side, we had three within striking distance of the lead:
                      19 David Neft
                      17 George Steinbrenner
                      15 Pat Gillick

                      The official player results are:
                      Code:
                      Clemens, Roger	9	108
                      Martinez, Edgar	10	97
                      McGwire, Mark	9	85
                      Brock, Lou	5	40
                      Bando, Sal	5	38
                      Rixey, Eppa	5	35
                      Aparicio, Luis	5	34
                      McGriff, Fred	3	27
                      Puckett, Kirby	5	27
                      Shocker, Urban	4	26
                      Beckley , Jake	4	23
                      Mullane , Tony	4	22
                      Berger , Wally	3	20
                      Pierce, Billy	5	17
                      Duffy , Hugh	3	14
                      Dandridge, Ray	4	13
                      Nettles, Graig	3	13
                      Evans, Darrell	3	11
                      Sutter, Bruce	3	11
                      Lundy , Dick	1	10
                      Randolph, W	3	9
                      Sewell , Joe	1	9
                      Fingers, Rollie	1	8
                      Grimes , B	2	8
                      Leach , Tommy	1	8
                      Quisenberry, D	2	7
                      Howard, Frank	1	6
                      Munson, Thurman	1	6
                      Newcombe, Don	1	6
                      Bonds, Bobby	1	5
                      Cepeda, Orlando	1	5
                      Gomez, Lefty	1	5
                      Smith, Chino	3	5
                      Campaneris, B	1	4
                      Murphy, Dale	1	4
                      Perez, Tony	1	4
                      Evers, Johnny	1	3
                      Jones, Charley	1	3
                      Rice, Sam	1	2
                      Pike, Lip	1	1
                      Richardson , H	1	1
                      Last edited by jalbright; 10-09-2011, 08:59 AM.
                      Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                      Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                      A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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