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  • #16
    Originally posted by jalbright View Post
    I'll try it, but if it slips down without more votes, it goes back. Regardless, when the voting is over, this will eventually return to the archive.
    As it should since at that point, voting is closed. People don't generally look at archive forums for new topics, though.

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    • #17
      Players:

      1. Mike Piazza
      2. Jeff Bagwell
      3. Roberto Alomar
      4. Trevor Hoffman
      5. Jeff Kent
      6. Kenny Lofton
      7. Tony Mullane
      8. Ray Dandridge
      9. Jake Beckley
      10. Luis Aparicio
      11. Eppa Rixey
      12. Billy Pierce


      Contributors:

      1. Will Wheaton
      2. Williams Wadsworth
      3. Harry Caray
      4. John Schuerholz
      5. Shigeru Mizuhara

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      • #18
        Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post
        As it should since at that point, voting is closed. People don't generally look at archive forums for new topics, though.
        This isn't the typical old thread, though.
        Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
        Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
        Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
        Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
        Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

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        • #19
          We've got five votes so far in this project, one short of the quorum.
          Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
          Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
          A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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          • #20
            I've PM'd those folks who voted in the last election and have been active at the site since the end of September
            Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
            Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
            A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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            • #21
              Still in need of a sixth vote in this project. I'll make a post in the AIR project to see if that helps draw any more votes.
              Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
              Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
              A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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              • #22
                Players
                1. Mike Piazza
                2. Jeff Bagwell
                3. Mike Mussina
                4. Jim Edmonds
                5. Roberto Alomar
                6. Kenny Lofton
                7. John Donaldson
                8. Tony Mullane
                9. Jeff Kent
                10. Sal Bando
                11. Cannonball Bill Jackman
                12. Spotswood Poles


                Contributors
                1. William Rufus Wheaton
                2. Louis Fenn Wadsworth
                3. Nick Young
                4. Jim Mutrie
                5. Lefty O'Doul
                "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                • #23
                  One week left in this election.
                  Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                  Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                  A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                  • #24
                    Players:

                    1. Mike Piazza
                    2. Jeff Bagwell
                    3. Roberto Alomar
                    4. Mike Mussina
                    5. Kenny Lofton
                    6. Jeff Kent
                    7. Trevor Hoffman
                    8. Dan Quisenberry
                    9. Kirby Puckett
                    10. Luis Aparicio
                    11. Chino Smith
                    12. Sammy Sosa

                    Contributors:

                    1. Shigeru Mizuhara
                    2. Alex Pompez
                    3. John Scheurholtz
                    4. Red Smith
                    5. William Wheaton

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                    • #25
                      Players

                      1. Jeff Bagwell
                      2. Mike Piazza
                      3. Roberto Alomar
                      4. Mike Mussina

                      5. Rafael Palmeiro
                      6. Trevor Hoffman
                      7. Jeff Kent
                      8. Eppa Rixey
                      9. Kevin Brown
                      10. Joe Sewell
                      11. Rollie Fingers
                      12. Luis Aparicio

                      An amazing year with five new additions leaves Wally Berger, Billy Pierce and Kirby Puckett wanting. Additional Backlog: Buddy Bell, Bobby Bonds, Jack Clark, Darrell Evans, Tommy John, Kenny Lofton, Carl Mays, Fred McGriff, Dale Murphy, Graig Nettles, Willie Randolph, Lee Smith

                      Contributors

                      1. John Schuerholz
                      2. Davey Johnson
                      3. Billy Martin
                      4. Doug Harvey
                      5. Bob Howsam

                      No change. Still waiting for their turn: Sy Berger, Augie Busch, Jocko Conlan, Cal Hubbard, Tim Murnane, Lou Piniella, Grantland Rice, and Red Schoendienst.
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                      • #26
                        Ballot 2013:
                        1 Mike Piazza
                        2 Jeff Bagwell
                        3 Mike Mussina
                        4 Jim Edmonds
                        5 Kevin Brown
                        6 Kenny Lofton
                        7 Bret Saberhagen
                        8 Sammy Sosa
                        9 Darrell Evans
                        10 Roberto Alomar
                        11 Rafael Palmeiro
                        12 David Cone

                        Realizing I am late to the game, but why elect Jeff Kent and not Jim Edmonds?
                        Based on raw totals, Kent is impressive, but when you take into account the replacement level of players at this position (2B was/is on the order of 3B/CF), big years during easier to dominate/expansion NL seasons (late 90s/early 00s), mediocre/averagish defense/baserunning, I see him as falling short of our standards.
                        http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/...f_kent_retires - post 67, 79

                        Contributors: in case this makes a difference in election/meeting quorum, etc. - personal life has been crazy
                        1 Johnny Pesky
                        2 John Schierholtz
                        3 Shigeru Mizuhara
                        4 William Wheaton
                        5 Doug Harvey
                        Last edited by Jar of Flies; 11-30-2013, 08:20 AM. Reason: Adding contributors
                        Jacquelyn Eva Marchand (1983-2017)
                        http://www.tezakfuneralhome.com/noti...uelyn-Marchand

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                        • #27
                          The election is over, with JarofFlies ballot counting. I don't have time to post the results until tonight or tomorrow.
                          Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                          Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                          A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                          • #28
                            JarofFlies' contributor ballot was late, so that doesn't count. Sorry. We are inducting Roberto Alomar, Jeff Bagwell, and Mike Piazza among the players. Piazza and Bagwell were first and second, and Alomar was third and on every ballot, so he's in also. On the contributor side, we had a three way tie among Shigeru Mizuhara, William Wheaton, and John Schuerholtz. All were on the same number of ballots, so that meant going to the looking at the order voters listed the candidates on their ballots, and Mizuhara won that tiebreaker and thus became the inductee. The official results, players first:
                            Code:
                            106	Piazza, Mike
                            100	Bagwell, Jeff
                            79	Alomar, Roberto
                            73	Mussina, Mike
                            44	Kent, Jeff
                            43	Lofton, Kenny
                            25	Hoffman, Trevor
                            23	Edmonds, Jim
                            19	Puckett, Kirby
                            16	Palmiero, Rafael
                            15	McGriff, Fred
                            14	Brown, Kevin
                            13	Bando, Sal
                            13	Sosa, Sammy
                            11	Mullane , Tony
                            8	Aparicio, Luis
                            8	Enatsu, Yutaka
                            8	Smith, Chino
                            7	Belle, Albert
                            7	Rixey, Eppa
                            6	Donaldson, John
                            6	Saberhagen, Bret
                            5	Dandridge, Ray
                            5	Grimes , Burleigh
                            5	Quisenberry, Dan
                            5	Shocker, Urban
                            4	Beckley , Jake
                            4	Evans, Darrell
                            4	Munson, Thurman
                            4	Olerud, John
                            3	Duffy , Hugh
                            3	Sewell , Joe
                            3	Willaims, Bernie
                            2	Fingers, Rollie
                            2	Howard, Frank
                            2	Murphy, Dale
                            2	Nettles, Graig
                            1	Clarkson, Bus
                            1	Cone, David
                            1	Pierce, Billy
                            1	Pike, Lip
                            1	Poles, Spotswood
                            Now the contributors:

                            Code:
                            15	Mizuhara, Shigeru
                            15	Schuerhotlz, John
                            15	Wheaton, William
                            11	Pompez, Alex
                            9	Smith, Red
                            8	Wadsworth, Louis
                            7	Harwell, Ernie
                            7	Martin, Billy
                            6	Harris , Bucky
                            5	Harvey, Doug
                            4	Johnson, Davey
                            4	McCarthy, Tommy
                            4	O'Doul, Lefty
                            3	Caray, Harry
                            3	Young, Nick
                            2	Mutrie, Jim
                            1	Conlan, Jocko
                            1	Howsam, Bob
                            Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                            Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                            A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                            • #29
                              Members of the Best of Baseball Hall. Last election's inductees are in red.
                              Players
                              Code:
                              Hank Aaron
                              Pete Alexander
                              Dick Allen
                              Roberto Alomar
                              Cap Anson
                              Luke Appling
                              Richie Ashburn
                              Earl Averill
                              Jeff Bagwell
                              Frank Baker
                              Ernie Banks
                              Ross Barnes
                              John Beckwith
                              Cool Papa Bell
                              Johnny Bench
                              Charlie Bennett
                              Yogi Berra
                              Akira Bessho
                              Craig Biggio
                              Bert Blyleven
                              Wade Boggs
                              Barry Bonds
                              Lou Boudreau
                              Ken Boyer
                              Roger Bresnahan
                              George Brett
                              Lou Brock
                              Dan Brouthers
                              Mordecai Brown
                              Ray Brown
                              Willard Brown
                              Jim Bunning
                              Jesse Burkett
                              Roy Campanella
                              Rod Carew
                              Max Carey
                              Gary Carter
                              Steve Carlton
                              Bob Caruthers
                              Perucho Cepeda
                              Oscar Charleston
                              Cupid Childs
                              Will Clark
                              Fred Clarke
                              John Clarkson
                              Roger Clemens
                              Roberto Clemente
                              Ty Cobb
                              Mickey Cochrane
                              Eddie Collins
                              Jimmy Collins
                              Roger Connor
                              Stan Coveleski
                              Sam Crawford
                              Joe Cronin
                              Bill Dahlen
                              George Davis
                              Andre Dawson
                              Dizzy Dean
                              Ed Delahanty
                              Bill Dickey
                              Martin Dihigo
                              Joe DiMaggio
                              Larry Doby
                              Bobby Doerr
                              Don Drysdale
                              Dennis Eckersley
                              Dwight Evans
                              Buck Ewing
                              Red Faber
                              Bob Feller
                              Wes Ferrell
                              Carlton Fisk
                              Elmer Flick
                              Whitey Ford
                              Willie Foster
                              Nellie Fox
                              Jimmie Foxx
                              Bill Freehan
                              Frankie Frisch
                              Pud Galvin
                              Lou Gehrig
                              Charlie Gehringer
                              Bob Gibson
                              Josh Gibson
                              Jack Glasscock
                              Tom Glavine
                              Joe Gordon
                              George Gore
                              Goose Goslin
                              Goose Gossage
                              Frank Grant
                              Hank Greenberg
                              Bobby Grich
                              Heinie Groh
                              Lefty Grove
                              Tony Gwynn
                              Stan Hack
                              Billy Hamilton
                              Isao Harimoto
                              Gabby Hartnett
                              Harry Heilmann
                              Rickey Henderson
                              Billy Herman
                              Keith Hernandez
                              Pete Hill
                              Paul Hines
                              Rogers Hornsby
                              Carl Hubbell
                              Kazuhisa Inao
                              Monte Irvin
                              Joe Jackson
                              Reggie Jackson
                              Ferguson Jenkins
                              Hughie Jennings
                              Grant "Home Run" Johnson
                              Randy Johnson
                              Walter Johnson
                              Addie Joss
                              Al Kaline
                              Masaichi Kaneda
                              Tim Keefe
                              Willie Keeler
                              Charlie Keller
                              Joe Kelley
                              King Kelly
                              Harmon Killebrew
                              Ralph Kiner
                              Sandy Koufax
                              Masaaki Koyama
                              Nap LaJoie
                              Barry Larkin
                              Bob Lemon
                              Buck Leonard
                              Pop Lloyd
                              Ted Lyons
                              Biz Mackey
                              Greg Maddux
                              Sherry Magee
                              Mickey Mantle
                              Juan Marichal
                              Eddie Mathews
                              Christy Mathewson
                              Willie Mays
                              Willie McCovey
                              Joe McGinnity
                              Bid McPhee
                              Joe Medwick
                              Jose Mendez
                              Minnie Minoso
                              Johnny Mize
                              Paul Molitor
                              Dobie Moore
                              Joe Morgan
                              Eddie Murray
                              Stan Musial
                              Shigeo Nagashima
                              Hal Newhouser
                              Kid Nichols
                              Phil Niekro
                              Katsuya Nomura
                              Hiromitsu Ochiai
                              Sadaharu Oh
                              Alejandro Oms
                              Jim O'Rourke
                              Mel Ott
                              Satchel Paige
                              Jim Palmer
                              Gaylord Perry
                              Mike Piazza
                              Eddie Plank
                              Charlie Radbourn
                              Tim Raines
                              Pee Wee Reese
                              Rick Reuschel
                              Cal Ripken, Jr. 
                              Robin Roberts
                              Brooks Robinson
                              Frank Robinson
                              Jackie Robinson
                              Bullet Joe Rogan
                              Pete Rose
                              Edd Roush
                              Red Ruffing
                              Amos Rusie
                              Babe Ruth
                              Nolan Ryan
                              Ryne Sandberg
                              Ron Santo
                              Louis Santop
                              Curt Schilling
                              Mike Schmidt
                              Tom Seaver
                              Jimmy Sheckard
                              Al Simmons
                              Ted Simmons
                              George Sisler
                              Enos Slaughter
                              Hilton Smith
                              Ozzie Smith
                              Reggie Smith
                              John Smoltz
                              Duke Snider
                              Warren Spahn
                              Tris Speaker
                              Victor Starffin
                              Willie Stargell
                              Joe Start
                              Turkey Stearnes
                              Harry Stovey
                              Mule Suttles
                              Don Sutton
                              Ezra Sutton
                              Bill Terry
                              Sam Thompson
                              Luis Tiant
                              Joe Torre
                              Cristobal Torriente
                              Alan Trammell
                              Pie Traynor
                              Quincy Trouppe
                              Dazzy Vance
                              Arky Vaughan
                              Rube Waddell
                              Honus Wagner
                              Larry Walker
                              Bobby Wallace
                              Ed Walsh
                              Paul Waner
                              John M. Ward
                              Willie Wells
                              Zack Wheat
                              Lou Whitaker
                              Deacon White
                              Hoyt Wilhelm
                              Billy Williams
                              Smoky Joe Williams
                              Ted Williams
                              Jud Wilson
                              Dave Winfield
                              George Wright
                              Early Wynn
                              Jimmy Wynn
                              Carl Yastrzemski
                              Cy Young
                              Robin Yount
                              Contributors
                              Code:
                              Iso Abe
                              Doc Adams
                              Mel Allen
                              Walter Alston
                              Sparky Anderson
                              Red Barber
                              Ed Barrow
                              Buzzue Bavasi
                              Ed Bolden
                              Alexander Cartwright
                              O. P. Caylor
                              Henry Chadwick
                              Frank Chance
                              Charlie Commiskey
                              Charles Conlon
                              Tom Connolly
                              Bobby Cox
                              Jim Creighton
                              Jack Dunn
                              Leo Durocher
                              Al Munro Elias
                              Billy Evans
                              Bob Ferguson
                              Rube Foster
                              Ford Frick
                              Pat Gillick
                              Gus Greenlee
                              Clark Griffith
                              Ned Hanlon
                              Vic Harris
                              Whitey Herzog
                              William Hulbert
                              Miller Huggins
                              Ban Johnson
                              Tetsuharu Kawakami
                              Bill Klem
                              Kenesaw Landis
                              Tommy Lasorda
                              Tony LaRussa
                              Al Lopez
                              Connie Mack
                              Larry MacPhail
                              Joe McCarthy
                              John McGraw
                              Bill McKechnie
                              Marvin Miller
                              Shigeru Mizuhara
                              David Neft
                              Walter O'Malley
                              Buck O'Neill
                              Dickey Pearce
                              Cum Posey
                              A. J. Reach
                              Francis Richter
                              Branch Rickey
                              Phil Rizzuto
                              Jacob Ruppert
                              Vin Scully
                              Frank Selee
                              Ben Shibe
                              Matsutaro Shoriki
                              Billy Southworth
                              Al Spalding
                              Alfred Spink
                              J. G. T. Spink
                              Casey Stengel
                              C. I. Taylor
                              Kazuto Tsuruoka
                              Bill Veeck
                              Earl Weaver
                              George Weiss
                              Sol White
                              J. L. Wilkinson
                              Dick Williams
                              Harry Wright
                              Last edited by jalbright; 11-30-2013, 08:21 PM.
                              Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                              Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                              A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                              • #30
                                No surprise on the player side; next year should also supply a number of candidates to keep us busy for a while. I suspect the old backlog will be pushed down by the modern players.

                                I'm ok with the Mizuhara election, but I didn't quite see the resume of Kawakami, Shoriki, or Tsuruoka when I looked at them. I'd like to get back to the western hemisphere at this point.
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