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  • #31
    JarofFlies:

    Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I can't figure out when the problem with Edgar Martinez and McGwire came up, though it was near the end of the project.
    We're also missing Steinbrenner from the list of inductees. I will fix those problems and notify the affected voters.

    You're a little off. Only Yankillaz and my ballots player ballots are currently invalid, and I shall 1) fix mine and 2) notify Yankillaz. Brad Harris has one open spot, which means his ballot is still valid, as is Yankillaz' contributor ballot. No one else voted for the three candidates, so their ballots are fine.

    As for Cashman, he's not eligible until he's 65, and with a birthdate of 1967, he won't be eligible until 2032. He'd be a solid choice otherwise.
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by PVNICK View Post
      More or less. My impression was that there was more than just that, but I could be overestimating. My impression was that the Boston teams introduced or popularized actual intelligent strategy rather than the "grab their belt as they round the base" strategies that were more John McGraw's style or cut the baselines and corners when the ump isn't looking ala King Kelly.
      McCarthy is cited as a cause of the infield fly rule, and may have had some effect on signals among fielders, IIRC
      Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
      Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
      A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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      • #33
        I see Brad's ballot would be ordinarily be invalid because of Edmonds. That said, Brad's ballot and Yankillaz' will be valid if unchanged, as the error originated with me, rather than them. Of course, I will notify them and encourage them to fill the holes in their ballots I helped create.
        Last edited by jalbright; 12-26-2014, 08:17 AM.
        Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
        Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
        A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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        • #34
          Jalbright. Lucky for me I had my runner ups...
          "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
          George Brett

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          • #35
            Originally posted by jalbright View Post
            McCarthy is cited as a cause of the infield fly rule, and may have had some effect on signals among fielders, IIRC
            Thanks for the info.

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            • #36
              Players:

              1. Ken Griffey Jr
              2. Mariano Rivera
              3. Mike Mussina
              4. Kenny Lofton
              5. Jeff Kent
              6. Trevor Hoffman
              7. Dan Quisenberry
              8. Kirby Puckett
              9. Chino Smith
              10. Gary Sheffield
              11. Thurman Munson
              12.Luis Aparicio

              Contributors:

              1. Bill James
              2. Alex Pompez
              3. John Scheurholtz
              4. William Wheaton
              5. Lefty O'Doul

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              • #37
                A little over a day and a half left in this election as I write.
                Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                • #38
                  We have inducted Ken Griffey Jr, Mike Mussina and Mariano Rivera among the players and John Scheurholz as a contributor. Mussina makes it by finishing third and being named on 10 of the 11 ballots, well over the 75% required to elect the third place finisher. Now the official results, players first:

                  130 Griffey, Ken Jr.
                  122 Rivera, Mariano
                  98 Mussina, Mike
                  49 Lofton, Kenny
                  45 Kent, Jeff
                  30 Munson, Thurman
                  30 Palmiero, Rafael
                  29 Brown, Kevin
                  25 Sheffield, Gary
                  25 Smith, Chino
                  22 Puckett, Kirby
                  20 Hoffman, Trevor
                  18 McGriff, Fred
                  17 Sosa, Sammy
                  13 Murphy, Dale
                  13 Nettles, Graig
                  12 Saberhagen, Bret
                  11 Enatsu, Yutaka
                  10 Dandridge, Ray
                  10 Duffy , Hugh
                  9 Belle, Albert
                  9 Shocker, Urban
                  8 Maris, Roger
                  7 Bando, Sal
                  7 Bell, Buddy
                  7 Campaneris, Bert
                  6 Clarkson, Bus
                  6 Day, Leon
                  6 Grimes , Burleigh
                  6 Quisenberry, Dan
                  5 Beckley , Jake
                  5 Bonds, Bobby
                  5 Olerud, John
                  5 Rixey, Eppa
                  5 Walters, Bucky
                  4 Perez, Tony
                  4 Willaims, Bernie
                  3 Aparicio, Luis
                  3 Evans, Darrell
                  3 Mattingly, Don
                  3 McCormick, Jim
                  3 Van Haltren, George
                  2 Cone, David
                  2 Easter, Luke
                  2 Pike, Lip
                  1 Leach , Tommy
                  1 McVey , Cal
                  1 Mullane , Tony
                  1 Schang, Wally

                  Now the contributors:

                  26 Schuerhotlz, John
                  24 Wheaton, William
                  19 James, Bill
                  8 Caray, Harry
                  8 Harvey, Doug
                  8 Howsam, Bob
                  8 O'Doul, Lefty
                  8 Wadsworth, Louis
                  7 Harris , Bucky
                  7 Smith, Red
                  6 Pesky, Johnny
                  5 Pompez, Alex
                  4 Harwell, Ernie
                  4 McCarthy, Tommy
                  4 Somers, Charles
                  3 Jobe, Frank
                  1 Johnson, Davey
                  Last edited by jalbright; 01-17-2015, 09:10 AM.
                  Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                  Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                  A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                  • #39
                    Next election the new player class will be Jim Edmonds and Jim Thome, and the contributor class will be Tom Kelly
                    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

                    Comment


                    • #40
                      Members of the Best of Baseball Hall. Last election's inductees are in red.
                      Players
                      Code:
                      Hank Aaron
                      Pete Alexander
                      Dick Allen
                      Roberto Alomar
                      Cap Anson
                      Luke Appling
                      Richie Ashburn
                      Earl Averill
                      Jeff Bagwell
                      Frank Baker
                      Ernie Banks
                      Ross Barnes
                      John Beckwith
                      Cool Papa Bell
                      Johnny Bench
                      Charlie Bennett
                      Yogi Berra
                      Akira Bessho
                      Craig Biggio
                      Bert Blyleven
                      Wade Boggs
                      Barry Bonds
                      Lou Boudreau
                      Ken Boyer
                      Roger Bresnahan
                      George Brett
                      Lou Brock
                      Dan Brouthers
                      Mordecai Brown
                      Ray Brown
                      Willard Brown
                      Jim Bunning
                      Jesse Burkett
                      Roy Campanella
                      Rod Carew
                      Max Carey
                      Gary Carter
                      Steve Carlton
                      Bob Caruthers
                      Perucho Cepeda
                      Oscar Charleston
                      Cupid Childs
                      Will Clark
                      Fred Clarke
                      John Clarkson
                      Roger Clemens
                      Roberto Clemente
                      Ty Cobb
                      Mickey Cochrane
                      Eddie Collins
                      Jimmy Collins
                      Roger Connor
                      Stan Coveleski
                      Sam Crawford
                      Joe Cronin
                      Bill Dahlen
                      George Davis
                      Andre Dawson
                      Dizzy Dean
                      Ed Delahanty
                      Bill Dickey
                      Martin Dihigo
                      Joe DiMaggio
                      Larry Doby
                      Bobby Doerr
                      Don Drysdale
                      Dennis Eckersley
                      Dwight Evans
                      Buck Ewing
                      Red Faber
                      Bob Feller
                      Wes Ferrell
                      Carlton Fisk
                      Elmer Flick
                      Whitey Ford
                      Willie Foster
                      Nellie Fox
                      Jimmie Foxx
                      Bill Freehan
                      Frankie Frisch
                      Pud Galvin
                      Lou Gehrig
                      Charlie Gehringer
                      Bob Gibson
                      Josh Gibson
                      Jack Glasscock
                      Tom Glavine
                      Joe Gordon
                      George Gore
                      Goose Goslin
                      Goose Gossage
                      Frank Grant
                      Hank Greenberg
                      Bobby Grich
                      Ken Griffey, Jr.
                      Heinie Groh
                      Lefty Grove
                      Tony Gwynn
                      Stan Hack
                      Billy Hamilton
                      Isao Harimoto
                      Gabby Hartnett
                      Harry Heilmann
                      Rickey Henderson
                      Billy Herman
                      Keith Hernandez
                      Pete Hill
                      Paul Hines
                      Rogers Hornsby
                      Carl Hubbell
                      Kazuhisa Inao
                      Monte Irvin
                      Joe Jackson
                      Reggie Jackson
                      Ferguson Jenkins
                      Hughie Jennings
                      Grant "Home Run" Johnson
                      Randy Johnson
                      Walter Johnson
                      Addie Joss
                      Al Kaline
                      Masaichi Kaneda
                      Tim Keefe
                      Willie Keeler
                      Charlie Keller
                      Joe Kelley
                      King Kelly
                      Harmon Killebrew
                      Ralph Kiner
                      Sandy Koufax
                      Masaaki Koyama
                      Nap LaJoie
                      Barry Larkin
                      Bob Lemon
                      Buck Leonard
                      Pop Lloyd
                      Ted Lyons
                      Biz Mackey
                      Greg Maddux
                      Sherry Magee
                      Mickey Mantle
                      Juan Marichal
                      Edgar Martinez
                      Eddie Mathews
                      Christy Mathewson
                      Willie Mays
                      Willie McCovey
                      Joe McGinnity
                      Mark McGwire
                      Bid McPhee
                      Joe Medwick
                      Jose Mendez
                      Minnie Minoso
                      Johnny Mize
                      Paul Molitor
                      Dobie Moore
                      Joe Morgan
                      Eddie Murray
                      Stan Musial
                      Mike Mussina
                      Shigeo Nagashima
                      Hal Newhouser
                      Kid Nichols
                      Phil Niekro
                      Katsuya Nomura
                      Hiromitsu Ochiai
                      Sadaharu Oh
                      Alejandro Oms
                      Jim O'Rourke
                      Mel Ott
                      Satchel Paige
                      Jim Palmer
                      Gaylord Perry
                      Mike Piazza
                      Eddie Plank
                      Charlie Radbourn
                      Tim Raines
                      Pee Wee Reese
                      Rick Reuschel
                      Cal Ripken, Jr. 
                      Mariano Rivera
                      Robin Roberts
                      Brooks Robinson
                      Frank Robinson
                      Jackie Robinson
                      Bullet Joe Rogan
                      Pete Rose
                      Edd Roush
                      Red Ruffing
                      Amos Rusie
                      Babe Ruth
                      Nolan Ryan
                      Ryne Sandberg
                      Ron Santo
                      Louis Santop
                      Curt Schilling
                      Mike Schmidt
                      Tom Seaver
                      Jimmy Sheckard
                      Al Simmons
                      Ted Simmons
                      George Sisler
                      Enos Slaughter
                      Hilton Smith
                      Ozzie Smith
                      Reggie Smith
                      John Smoltz
                      Duke Snider
                      Warren Spahn
                      Tris Speaker
                      Victor Starffin
                      Willie Stargell
                      Joe Start
                      Turkey Stearnes
                      Harry Stovey
                      Mule Suttles
                      Don Sutton
                      Ezra Sutton
                      Bill Terry
                      Sam Thompson
                      Luis Tiant
                      Joe Torre
                      Cristobal Torriente
                      Alan Trammell
                      Pie Traynor
                      Quincy Trouppe
                      Dazzy Vance
                      Arky Vaughan
                      Rube Waddell
                      Honus Wagner
                      Larry Walker
                      Bobby Wallace
                      Ed Walsh
                      Paul Waner
                      John M. Ward
                      Willie Wells
                      Zack Wheat
                      Lou Whitaker
                      Deacon White
                      Hoyt Wilhelm
                      Billy Williams
                      Smoky Joe Williams
                      Ted Williams
                      Jud Wilson
                      Dave Winfield
                      George Wright
                      Early Wynn
                      Jimmy Wynn
                      Carl Yastrzemski
                      Cy Young
                      Robin Yount
                      Contributors
                      Code:
                      Iso Abe
                      Doc Adams
                      Mel Allen
                      Walter Alston
                      Sparky Anderson
                      Red Barber
                      Ed Barrow
                      Buzzue Bavasi
                      Ed Bolden
                      Alexander Cartwright
                      O. P. Caylor
                      Henry Chadwick
                      Frank Chance
                      Charlie Commiskey
                      Charles Conlon
                      Tom Connolly
                      Bobby Cox
                      Jim Creighton
                      Jack Dunn
                      Leo Durocher
                      Al Munro Elias
                      Billy Evans
                      Bob Ferguson
                      Rube Foster
                      Ford Frick
                      Pat Gillick
                      Gus Greenlee
                      Clark Griffith
                      Ned Hanlon
                      Vic Harris
                      Whitey Herzog
                      William Hulbert
                      Miller Huggins
                      Ban Johnson
                      Tetsuharu Kawakami
                      Bill Klem
                      Kenesaw Landis
                      Tommy Lasorda
                      Tony LaRussa
                      Al Lopez
                      Connie Mack
                      Larry MacPhail
                      Joe McCarthy
                      John McGraw
                      Bill McKechnie
                      Marvin Miller
                      Shigeru Mizuhara
                      David Neft
                      Walter O'Malley
                      Buck O'Neill
                      Dickey Pearce
                      Cum Posey
                      A. J. Reach
                      Francis Richter
                      Branch Rickey
                      Phil Rizzuto
                      Jacob Ruppert
                      John Scheurholz
                      Vin Scully
                      Frank Selee
                      Ben Shibe
                      Matsutaro Shoriki
                      Billy Southworth
                      Al Spalding
                      Alfred Spink
                      J. G. T. Spink
                      Casey Stengel
                      George Steinbrenner
                      C. I. Taylor
                      Kazuto Tsuruoka
                      Bill Veeck
                      Earl Weaver
                      George Weiss
                      Sol White
                      J. L. Wilkinson
                      Dick Williams
                      Harry Wright
                      Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                      Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                      A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                      • #41
                        Are we doing an election this year?
                        Jacquelyn Eva Marchand (1983-2017)
                        http://www.tezakfuneralhome.com/noti...uelyn-Marchand

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