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  • #16
    This election is closed. We elected five players this round: Buddy Bell, Bobby Bonds, Dwight Evans, Willie Randolph, and Hack Wilson. I'll post the full official results tomorrow.
    RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

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    • #17
      It's nice to see Wilson finally join Berger.

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      • #18
        The way we've expanded at 3B is pretty interesting, as we've clearly expanded into the second (and maybe third tier) which consists of players that are difficult to distinguish. Yet, there seems to be one player clearly among that group that we haven't elected - Darrell Evans. With Graig Nettles, Sal Bando, and now Buddy Bell elected, and going back farther to Stan Hack, Ken Boyer and Bob Elliott, Evans seems like a somewhat curious omission.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by DoubleX View Post
          The way we've expanded at 3B is pretty interesting, as we've clearly expanded into the second (and maybe third tier) which consists of players that are difficult to distinguish. Yet, there seems to be one player clearly among that group that we haven't elected - Darrell Evans. With Graig Nettles, Sal Bando, and now Buddy Bell elected, and going back farther to Stan Hack, Ken Boyer and Bob Elliott, Evans seems like a somewhat curious omission.
          More curious, so to speak, in that 3, 4, 5 years ago Evans was one of the notable recent omissions ahead of all his contemporaries listed above. Bell was a shock. With all due respect to everyone who voted for him, I would think you would find few, if any, articles written promoting him as a HOFer while he was active or soon thereafter. In fact you might be hard pressed to find more than a few seasons of him getting an all star push or MVP consideration. Perhaps we know better now, he did crack my top 20 3B list, but it was still surprising.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ace Venom View Post
            This election is closed. We elected five players this round: Buddy Bell, Bobby Bonds, Dwight Evans, Willie Randolph, and Hack Wilson. I'll post the full official results tomorrow.
            This was good to see even if it did come from the veteran's comm. We finally elected a bunch of non Cooperstown people from modern days whose numbers indicate that they were overlooked hall of famers. People like Dwight Evans and the others here may not have been thought of as hall of famers by contemporary observors, but either were lots of the old time players who we elected.

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            • #21
              2015 VC Final Results (13 Votes Cast, 10 Required for Election)
              1) Dwight Evans: 11 Votes (84.61%) - Elected
              t2) Buddy Bell: 10 Votes (76.92%) - Elected
              t2) Bobby Bonds: 10 Votes (76.92%) - Elected
              t2) Willie Randolph: 10 Votes (76.92%) - Elected
              t2) Hack Wilson: 10 Votes (76.92%) - Elected
              t6) Darrell Evans: 9 Votes (69.23%)
              t6) Bruce Sutter: 9 Votes (69.23%)
              t8) Charlie Keller: 8 Votes (61.54%)
              t8) Dobie Moore: 8 Votes (61.54%)
              t10) Perucho Cepeda: 7 Votes (53.85%)
              t10) Johnny Evers: 7 Votes (53.85%)
              t10) Rollie Fingers: 7 Votes (53.85%)
              t10) Tommy John: 7 Votes (53.85%)
              t10) Bob Johnson: 7 Votes (53.85%)
              t10) Thurman Munson: 7 Votes (53.85%)
              t16) Dave Bancroft: 6 Votes (46.15%)
              t16) Frank Howard: 6 Votes (46.15%)
              t16) Judy Johnson: 6 Votes (46.15%)
              t16) Jim Rice: 6 Votes (46.15%)
              t20) Norm Cash: 5 Votes (38.46%)
              t20) Earle Combs: 5 Votes (38.46%)
              t20) Gavvy Cravath: 5 Votes (38.46%)
              t20) Kiki Cuyler: 5 Votes (38.46%)
              t20) Dom DiMaggio: 5 Votes (38.46%)
              t20) Bill Mazeroski: 5 Votes (38.46%)
              t20) Don Newcombe: 5 Votes (38.46%)
              t20) Tony Oliva: 5 Votes (38.46%)
              t20) Mike Tiernan: 5 Votes (38.46%)
              t29) Cesar Cedeno: 4 Votes (30.77%)
              t29) Dave Concepcion: 4 Votes (30.77%)
              t29) Chuck Klein: 4 Votes (30.77%)
              t29) Sparky Lyle: 4 Votes (30.77%)
              t29) Al Rosen: 4 Votes (30.77%)
              t29) Red Schoendienst: 4 Votes (30.77%)
              t29) Ben Taylor: 4 Votes (30.77%)
              t29) Lon Warneke: 4 Votes (30.77%)
              t37) Lave Cross: 3 Votes (23.08%)
              t37) Elston Howard: 3 Votes (23.08%)
              t37) Steve Garvey: 3 Votes (23.08%)
              t37) Ron Guidry: 3 Votes (23.08%)
              t37) Jim Kaat: 3 Votes (23.08%)
              t37) George Kell: 3 Votes (23.08%)
              t37) Don Mattingly: 3 Votes (23.08%)
              t37) Buddy Myer: 3 Votes (23.08%)
              t37) Vada Pinson: 3 Votes (23.08%)
              t37) Rusty Staub: 3 Votes (23.08%)
              t37) Joe Tinker: 3 Votes (23.08%)
              t37) Bobby Veach: 3 Votes (23.08%)
              t37) Maury Wills: 3 Votes (23.08%)
              t50) Vic Harris: 2 Votes (15.38%)
              t50) John Hiller: 2 Votes (15.38%)
              t50) Ted Kluszewski: 2 Votes (15.38%)
              t50) Mike Marshall: 2 Votes (15.38%)
              t50) Stu Miller: 2 Votes (15.38%)
              t50) Dave Parker: 2 Votes (15.38%)
              t50) Hippo Vaughan: 2 Votes (15.38%)
              t57) Jack Morris: 0 Votes

              Write-in candidate votes

              Rick Reuschel: 4 Votes (30.77%)
              Babe Adams: 2 Votes (15.38%)
              Ron Cey: 1 Vote (7.69%)
              Jack Chesbro: 1 Vote (7.69%)
              Larry Corcoran: 1 Vote (7.69%)
              Catfish Hunter: 1 Vote (7.69%)
              Jimmy Key: 1 Vote (7.69%)
              Lance Parrish: 1 Vote (7.69%)

              Comments: Dwight Evans led the pack with 11 votes. Darrell Evans and Bruce Sutter both missed by a single vote. Sutter was one of the best closers of his time. I have to admit I've been forgetting to put Quisenberry on the ballot, which is a mistake I'll correct in the next election. I think both have a good case for our Hall. Sutter just needed one more vote to get there, so the real question is, "Why not Sutter?" Darrell Evans is being held back and does have a solid case. Rick Reuschel went from a brief ballot appearance (two years?) to a spot on the next ballot since he accumulated four votes as a write-in candidate.

              Jack Morris dropped off the ballot rather quickly. I'm a bit surprised he didn't get a single vote, but I don't think he belonged. Keller just can't seem to get over the threshold. Johnny Evers seems to finally be picking up some steam with his candidacy. Most of the others are about where they have been. Dobie Moore would be a welcome addition, but there are a number of factors keeping him out.
              RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

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              • #22
                We may have overcompensated at third base, bit after Nettles was elected, I didn't se a distinction between him, Bell and Darrell Evans, so I added Darrel Evans and Buddy Bell

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