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  • Top 7 closers of all-time

    Who were the top 7 cloing pitchers of all-time?

    This is my list:
    1. Dennis Eckersley
    2. Mariano Rivera
    3. Trevor Hoffman
    4. Rollie Fingers
    5. John Franco
    6. Rich "Goose" Gossage
    7. Lee Smith
    Yankees '09

    Arod, CC, AJ, DJ and Tex

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    1. Mariano Rivera
    2. Dennis Eckersley
    3. Trevor Hoffman
    4. Hoyt Wilhelm
    5. Lee Smith
    6. Rollie Fingers
    7. John Franco
    8. Rich Gossage
    9. Billy Wagner
    10. John Wetteland
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    • #3
      Totally Subjective Ranking of Best Closers

      My Totally Subjective Ranking of Best Closers
      01. Mariano Rivera
      02. Dennis Eckersley
      03. Trevor Hoffman
      04. Rollie Fingers
      05. John Franco
      06. Goose Gossage
      07. Bruce Sutter
      08. Tom Henke
      09. Billy Wagner
      10. Eric Gagne
      11. Randy Myers
      12. Dan Quisenberry
      13. John Wetteland
      14. Troy Percival
      15. Dave Righetti
      16. Robb Nen
      17. Hoyt Wilhelm
      18. Mike Marshall
      19. Sparky Lyle
      20. Tug McGraw
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      • #4
        Eck is really overrated on this board. I'm going by career value, and Wilhelm / Franco may not have actually closed much, but I'm going by relief value

        1. Rivera probably passed Wilhelm
        2. Wilhelm
        3. Gossage
        4. LSmith
        5. Quisenberry
        6. John Franco
        7. Tekulve

        Why exactly seven?
        Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by baseball junkie
          My Totally Subjective Ranking of Best Closers
          10. Eric Gagne
          Obviously, you're big on peak
          Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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          • #6
            1 Hoyt Wilhelm
            2 Mariano Rivera
            3 Goose Gossage
            4 John Franco
            5 Dan Quisenberry
            6 Lee Smith
            7 Billy Wagner
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            • #7
              Dick Radatz

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              • #8
                I never understand why people rate Franco so high. Except for early in his career, he was a 50-60 innings a year pitcher for the last 15 years of his career, if even that much. I'm not going to levy much praise for being able to get a couple of outs every few nights.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DoubleX
                  I never understand why people rate Franco so high. Except for early in his career, he was a 50-60 innings a year pitcher for the last 15 years of his career, if even that much. I'm not going to levy much praise for being able to get a couple of outs every few nights
                  He's thrown about TWICE as many innings as Wagner.
                  Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                  • #10
                    1-mariano

                    (huge gap)

                    2-eckersley
                    3-wilhelm
                    4-wagner
                    5-hoffman
                    6-gossage
                    7-smith

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                    • #11
                      As a reliever, Eck had a LOWER ERA+ AND the same or FEWER innings than
                      Rivera
                      Wilhelm
                      Quisenberry
                      Henke
                      AND Hoffman.
                      And Wetteland was close with innings, and Sutter, Franco et al. are close in ERA+.
                      Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                      Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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                      • #12
                        Mariano Rivera
                        Trevor Hoffman
                        Hoyt Wilhelm
                        Rollie Fingers
                        Lee Smith
                        Dennis Eckersley
                        Tom Henke
                        John Franco
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by baseball junkie
                          My Totally Subjective Ranking of Best Closers
                          01. Mariano Rivera
                          02. Dennis Eckersley
                          03. Trevor Hoffman
                          04. Rollie Fingers
                          05. John Franco
                          06. Goose Gossage
                          07. Bruce Sutter
                          08. Tom Henke
                          09. Billy Wagner
                          10. Eric Gagne
                          11. Randy Myers
                          12. Dan Quisenberry
                          13. John Wetteland
                          14. Troy Percival
                          15. Dave Righetti
                          16. Robb Nen
                          17. Hoyt Wilhelm
                          18. Mike Marshall
                          19. Sparky Lyle
                          20. Tug McGraw

                          Lee Smith doesnt even crack your top 20?
                          "There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.
                          ~~Al Gallagher


                          God Bless America!

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                          Click here to see the best pitcher NOT in the HOF!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Baseball Guru
                            Lee Smith doesnt even crack your top 20?
                            Well, when ya got Righetti over Wilhelm . . .
                            Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                            • #15
                              I hate to be a critic, but except for Mariano I can't take these modern relievers seriously. Guys like Hoffman. I just can't consider a season where you enter 45 games and pitch 45 innings as a real season. At least the older relievers like Quiz, Fingers, etc pitched at least 2 innings or even 3. I understand the game has changed but...

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