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    Who was the best "percentage hitter" ever?

    Was it Ty Cobb (highest career Batting Average @ .3664)?

    Or Babe Ruth (highest career slugging Average @ .6897 and second-best OBP @ .4739)?

    Or perhaps Ted Williams (highest career On-Base Percentage @ .4817, and second-best SA @.6335)?
    41
    Ty Cobb (highest career BA)
    34.15%
    14
    Babe Ruth (highest career SA)
    24.39%
    10
    Ted Williams (highest career OBP
    36.59%
    15
    Other
    4.88%
    2
    Last edited by Appling; 09-26-2005, 04:48 PM.
    Luke

  • #2
    Originally posted by Appling
    Who was the best "percentage hitter" ever?

    Was it Ty Cobb (highest career Batting Average @ .3664)?

    Or Babe Ruth (highest career slugging Average @ .6897 and second-best OBP @ .4739)?

    Or perhaps Ted Williams (highest career On-Base Percentage @ .4817, and second-best SA @.6335)?
    Percentage hitter to do what? Get on base? Get a hit? Or either?

    Does Ruth's SA have anything to do with it? That only tells you that WHEN he got a hit, it was usually for extra bases right? So you'd have to use BA and OBP. So the highest combination of those two. .342 and .474 is....what; .816?

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    • #3
      Ted Williams being 5th in relative BA, 2nd in relative SLG, and 1st in relative OBP
      Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by RuthMayBond
        Ted Williams being 5th in relative BA, 2nd in relative SLG, and 1st in relative OBP
        Think what he would have done, had he learned to, or wanted to go the other way. Just anything to the left side, to keep the fielders honest probably would have upped his numbers a quite a bit.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948
          Think what he would have done, had he learned to, or wanted to go the other way. Just anything to the left side, to keep the fielders honest probably would have upped his numbers a quite a bit.
          Ted in his later years stated that he in a way became a better hitter because his bat speed slowed down just a tiny smidgen that he started to hit them to center and to left. He said that had he been doing this right from the beginning, his lifetime BA would've been quite a bit higher. He always said the shift cost him 20 points on his BA.
          Imagine! Having too much bat speed!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948
            Percentage hitter to do what? Get on base? Get a hit? Or either?
            Arrgh!! Same problem here.

            Can I vote for all three?

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            • #7
              Much harder to get a hit, then a walk
              Much harder to hit a HR when you hit it

              Thus, Babe Ruth

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Joltin' Joe
                Ted in his later years stated that he in a way became a better hitter because his bat speed slowed down just a tiny smidgen that he started to hit them to center and to left. He said that had he been doing this right from the beginning, his lifetime BA would've been quite a bit higher. He always said the shift cost him 20 points on his BA.
                Imagine! Having too much bat speed!
                lol, no kiddin' huh. Then on top of that, before he even used his bat speed, he was top notch at understanding pitchers, knowing the zone, recognizing pitch types and locations earlier than most, etc, etc, Teddy Friekin' ballgame man, feel free to mix in a push bunt !! lol

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Joltin' Joe
                  Ted in his later years stated that he in a way became a better hitter because his bat speed slowed down just a tiny smidgen that he started to hit them to center and to left.
                  I read somewhere that, after his elbow injury in the 1950 ASG, Ted Williams said he had lost the "crack" he used to have when his bat hit the ball. He no longer had to power he had in the 1940's, so he had to compensate.
                  And he did OK: he won two more batting titles (and narrowly missed yet another in the 1954 season). Not bad for an old guy, past his prime.
                  Luke

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Appling
                    I read somewhere that, after his elbow injury in the 1950 ASG, Ted Williams said he had lost the "crack" he used to have when his bat hit the ball. He no longer had to power he had in the 1940's, so he had to compensate.
                    And he did OK: he won two more batting titles (and narrowly missed yet another in the 1954 season). Not bad for an old guy, past his prime.
                    In 1957, he won the batting title with a .388 BA at the age of 38. What a lot of people don't realize is that he had no infield singles that year. He even says in one of his books that he tried on quite a few occasions to run it out but his legs just didn't have it anymore(not that he was ever a Mantle or Ichiro in that respect). Now imagine, if he was able to leg out five infield singles that year, just five, he would've hit .400!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Joltin' Joe
                      In 1957, he won the batting title with a .388 BA at the age of 38. What a lot of people don't realize is that he had no infield singles that year. He even says in one of his books that he tried on quite a few occasions to run it out but his legs just didn't have it anymore(not that he was ever a Mantle or Ichiro in that respect). Now imagine, if he was able to leg out five infield singles that year, just five, he would've hit .400!!
                      Well he finally got what he wanted right. When people walk by him on the street, say it with me now..."There goes... yeah, you know the rest."

                      Hey Joe, based on this post, I smell a spinoff thread. "Greatest accomplishments after the age of 35" And Bonds is, of course, ineligible

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Imapotato
                        Much harder to get a hit, then a walk

                        Thus, Babe Ruth
                        And Babe was only 28th in relative BA
                        Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948
                          Hey Joe, based on this post, I smell a spinoff thread. "Greatest accomplishments after the age of 35" And Bonds is, of course, ineligible
                          Thank you, judge AND jury. There is one more guy that should be considered greatest percentage hitter, that hasn't even been mentioned
                          Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                          Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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                          • #14
                            Only man to have Joe JAcksons number and bat .360. Damn
                            "I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher."
                            -Rogers Hornsby-

                            "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
                            -Rogers Hornsby-

                            Just a note to all the active members of BBF, I consider all of you the smartest baseball people I have ever communicated with and love everyday I am on here. Thank you all!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RuthMayBond
                              Thank you, judge AND jury. There is one more guy that should be considered greatest percentage hitter, that hasn't even been mentioned
                              Its my own opinion, so I can be the judge, jury, prosecution, court reporter, bailiff, whatever the hell I want.
                              Bonds in no way is close to the greatest percentage hitter. He hit .320 only one time before 2001, his OBP was never above .458, and his career slugging was well below .600 before then. Anything after that is a farse IMO

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