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  • RuthMayBond
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    Originally posted by The Splendid Splinter View Post
    Doesn't matter if he does play 10 full seasons or not... look at my GG list, Helton made it after only 4 years. My GG thought very highly of Mostil who he thinks is the best defensive CFer ever. Better than Blair, Speaker, Ashburn, Mays..... And Mostil only had 7 full seasons.
    Well, that's one person's opinion

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  • The Splendid Splinter
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    Originally posted by RuthMayBond View Post
    We'll wait til he gets, oh, more than ten full seasons
    Doesn't matter if he does play 10 full seasons or not... look at my GG list, Helton made it after only 4 years. My GG thought very highly of Mostil who he thinks is the best defensive CFer ever. Better than Blair, Speaker, Ashburn, Mays..... And Mostil only had 7 full seasons.

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  • RuthMayBond
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    Originally posted by Lucifer View Post
    Mike Cameron? Best of all time? Interesting.......
    We'll wait til he gets, oh, more than ten full seasons

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  • Lucifer
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    Originally posted by leecemark View Post
    P: Greg Maddux
    C: Johnny Bench
    1B: Kieth Hernandez
    2B: Bill Mazeroski
    3B: Brooks Robinson
    SS: Ozzie Smith
    OF: Tris Speaker
    OF: Willie Mays
    OF: Mike Cameron
    ---There are 100 CF better than the best corner OF ever.
    I'll go with Smith as best ever for the same reason I picked 3 CF and no RF or LF. An average SS has more defensive value than the best 3B who ever lived. If Brooks could have played SS, he would have played SS. For the Ichiro fan - he was not the best defensive OFer on his team until Cameron left this year. I've seen about 85% of his games and he hasn't been anywhere near as good as Cameron. I would like to see him in center now though to see what he could do.
    Mike Cameron? Best of all time? Interesting.......

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  • RuthMayBond
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    Originally posted by HDH View Post
    I can give Ski Melillio an honorable mention. However, the best defensive 2B are listed correctly with one modification. Orlando Hudson gets the honor for 2000; Aaron Hill is the best today .
    Whatever. And I thought you were going by decade

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  • HDH
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    Originally posted by RuthMayBond View Post
    Nap Lajoie?

    <1920 Hughie Critz>

    Bucky Harris?

    <1930 Charlie Gehringer>

    Honorable mention to Melillio?

    <1940 Joe Gordon>

    Doerr?

    <1970 Manny Trillo>

    Grich?

    <2000 Orlando Hudson or Aaron Hill>

    Too late of a start for Hill

    I can give Ski Melillio an honorable mention. However, the best defensive 2B are listed correctly with one modification. Orlando Hudson gets the honor for 2000; Aaron Hill is the best today .

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  • RuthMayBond
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    Originally posted by Seattle1 View Post
    What difference does it make what position he plays? Do you mean that only certain positions are eligible for consideration for best defensive player?
    I'd think the guy was an outfielder, he'd AT LEAST play the MOST DIFFICULT outfield position for most of his career

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  • Seattle1
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    Originally posted by RuthMayBond View Post
    Kinda surprised that, if someone is picking ONE player, they'd go with a guy who's played right field most of his career
    What difference does it make what position he plays? Do you mean that only certain positions are eligible for consideration for best defensive player?

    A perfect, perfect, perfect throw by Ichiro!

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  • RuthMayBond
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    Originally posted by Seattle1 View Post
    Might be Ichiro Suzuki, though he needs to play a few more years before it can be said with certainty.
    Kinda surprised that, if someone is picking ONE player, they'd go with a guy who's played right field most of his career (of course someone earlier went with Keith Hernandez)

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  • Seattle1
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    Originally posted by LightSpeedOO7 View Post
    Who do you think is the best defensive player of all-time?
    Might be Ichiro Suzuki, though he needs to play a few more years before it can be said with certainty.

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  • RuthMayBond
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    Originally posted by The Splendid Splinter View Post
    my great grandpa all defensive team... i found it in his journal. Mind you... my GG lived from 1894 til 2001...

    C- Johnny Bench
    1B- Todd Helton
    2B- Nellie Fox
    SS- Ozzie Smith
    3B- Brooks Robinson
    LF- Bob Meusel
    CF- Johnny Mostil
    RF- Roberto Clemente


    Best Arm in the OF:

    1. Roberto Clemente
    2. Vladimir Guerrero
    3. Bob Meusel
    Nice list. Kinda surprised he'd made Helton all-time defensive 1B after four full seasons

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  • RuthMayBond
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    Originally posted by HDH View Post
    1900 Johnny Evers
    Nap Lajoie?

    <1920 Hughie Critz>

    Bucky Harris?

    <1930 Charlie Gehringer>

    Honorable mention to Melillio?

    <1940 Joe Gordon>

    Doerr?

    <1970 Manny Trillo>

    Grich?

    <2000 Orlando Hudson or Aaron Hill>

    Too late of a start for Hill

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  • The Splendid Splinter
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    my great grandpa all defensive team... i found it in his journal. Mind you... my GG lived from 1894 til 2001...

    C- Johnny Bench
    1B- Todd Helton
    2B- Nellie Fox
    SS- Ozzie Smith
    3B- Brooks Robinson
    LF- Bob Meusel
    CF- Johnny Mostil
    RF- Roberto Clemente


    Best Arm in the OF:

    1. Roberto Clemente
    2. Vladimir Guerrero
    3. Bob Meusel

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  • HDH
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    2B by Decade

    1880-90 Bid McPhee
    1900 Johnny Evers
    1910 Edddie Collins
    1920 Hughie Critz
    1930 Charlie Gehringer
    1940 Joe Gordon
    1950 Nellie Fox
    1960 Bill Mazeroski
    1970 Manny Trillo
    1980 Ryne Sandberg
    1990 Roberto Alomar
    2000 Orlando Hudson or Aaron Hill
    Last edited by HDH; 06-19-2007, 08:35 PM.

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  • philipthegreat
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    P-Greg Maddux
    C- Ivan Rodrigeuz
    1b- Don Mattingly
    2b- Eddie Collins
    3b Brooksie
    SS- Ozzie Smith
    Of- Willie Mays
    of- Jim Edmonds
    Of Al Kaline

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