Best Hitters of all-time?

[Myankee4life]

We haven't had one of these in a while so lets see

1. Babe Ruth
2. Ted Williams
3. Barry Bonds *
4. Ty Cobb
5. Lou Gehrig
6. Rogers Hornsby
7. Jimmie Foxx
8. Stan Musial
9. Josh Gibson
10. Mickey Mantle




* Steroid Cloud

[History Of Baseball Fan]

better make it just major league players, or else we'll have some stupid flame war over negro league players and white players...lol.

and bonds probably took steroids. ever since mcguire hit 70 HR in 1998, its funny how everyone started hitting 50 + HR since then.

mcguire, bonds and probably sosa took steroids. sosa also used a corked bat.

[julusnc]

Top 20 All-Time Batting Average
1. Ty Cobb .3664
2. Rogers Hornsby .3585
3. Joe Jackson .3558
4. Lefty O'Doul .3493
5. Ed Delahanty .3459
6. Tris Speaker .3447
7. Ted Williams .3444
8. Billy Hamilton .3443
9. Dan Brouthers .3421
Babe Ruth .3421
11. Dave Orr .3420
12. Harry Heilmann .3416
13. Pete Browning .3415
14. Willie Keeler+ .3413
15. Bill Terry .3412
16. George Sisler .3402
17. Lou Gehrig .3401
18. Jake Stenzel .3386
19. Jesse Burkett .3384
20. Tony Gwynn .3382

Top 20 All-Time Slugging Percentage
1. Babe Ruth .6897
2. Ted Williams .6338
3. Lou Gehrig .6324
4. Albert Pujols .6208
5. Barry Bonds .6109
6. Jimmie Foxx .6093
7. Todd Helton .6072
8. Hank Greenberg .6050
9. Manny Ramirez .5988
10. Mark McGwire .5882
11. Vladimir Guerrero .5865
12. Joe DiMaggio .5788
13. Alex Rodriguez .5772
14. Rogers Hornsby .5765
15. Frank Thomas .5677
16. Larry Walker .5652
17. Albert Belle .5638
18. Jim Thome .5621
19. Johnny Mize .5620
20. Ken Griffey .5609

Top 20 All-Time Homeruns
1. Hank Aaron 755
2. Babe Ruth 714
3. Barry Bonds 708
4. Willie Mays 660
5. Sammy Sosa 588
6. Frank Robinson 586
7. Mark McGwire 583
8. Harmon Killebrew 573
9. Rafael Palmeiro 569
10. Reggie Jackson 563
11. Mike Schmid 548
12. Ken Griffey 536
Mickey Mantle 536
14. Jimmie Foxx 534
15. Willie McCovey 521
Ted Williams+ 521
17. Ernie Banks 512
Eddie Mathews 512
19. Mel Ott 511
20.Eddie Murray 504

Top 20 All-Time Hits
1. Pete Rose 4256
2. Ty Cobb 4189
3. Hank Aaron 3771
4. Stan Musial 3630
5. Tris Speaker 3514
6. Carl Yastrzemski 3419
7. Cap Anson 3418 R
8. Honus Wagner 3415
9. Paul Molitor 3319 R
10. Eddie Collins 3315
11. Willie Mays 3283
12. Eddie Murray 3255
13. Nap Lajoie 3242
14. Cal Ripken 3184
15. George Brett 3154
16. Paul Waner 3152
17. Robin Yount 3142
18. Tony Gwynn 3141
19. Dave Winfield 3110
20. Rickey Henderson 3055

Top 20 All-Time On Base Percentage
1. Ted Williams .4817
2. Babe Ruth .4739
3. John McGraw .4657
4. Billy Hamilton .4552
5. Lou Gehri .4474
6. Barry Bond .4424
7. Bill Joyce .4349
8. Rogers Hornsby .4337
9. Todd Helton .4331
10. Ty Cobb .4330
11. Jimmie Foxx .4283
12. Tris Speaker .4280
13. Frank Thomas .4270
14. Eddie Collins .4244
15. Ferris Fain .4241
16. Dan Brouthers .4233
17. Max Bishop .4227
Joe Jackson .4227
19. Mickey Mantle .4205
20. Mickey Cochrane .4192

Top 20 All-Time OPS
1. Babe Ruth 1.1636 L
2. Ted Williams 1.1155
3. Lou Gehrig 1.0798
4. Barry Bonds 1.0533
5. Todd Helton 1.0404
6. Jimmie Foxx 1.0376
7. Albert Pujols 1.0372
8. Hank Greenberg 1.0169
9. Rogers Hornsby 1.0103
10. Manny Ramirez 1.0076
11. Frank Thomas .9947
12. Mark McGwire .9823
13. Mickey Mantle .9773
14. Joe DiMaggio .9771
Vladimir Guerrero .9771
16. Stan Musial .9757
17. Lance Berkman .9728
18. Jim Thome .9703
19. Larry Walker .9654
20. Alex Rodriguez .9625

[Myankee4life]

Top 20 All-Time Slugging Percentage
1. Babe Ruth .6897
2. Ted Williams .6338
3. Lou Gehrig .6324
4. Albert Pujols .6208


Woah, I never knew Pujols is 4th all-time in SLG%

[Sultan_1895-1948]

Ruth
Cobb
Williams
Gehrig
Wagner
Hornsby
Sh. Jackson
Aaron
Musial
Speaker


-- Any chance you could do a list of "relative" stats, or whatever would put deadballers' power numbers into perspective? Hardly fair to judge their power based on the All Time HR list. Same with hits, maybe we should list h/162 or somethin'. Just an idea.

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1) Babe Ruth
2) Ted Williams
3) Barry Bonds
4) Ty Cobb
5) Rogers Hornsby
6) Lou Gehrig
7) Honus Wagner
8) Stan Musial
9) Frank Thomas
10) Mickey Mantle
Notables: Hank Aaron, Jimmie Foxx, Eddie Collins, Mike Schmidt, Tris Speaker

[538280]

1.Babe Ruth
2.Ted Williams
3.Mickey Mantle
4.Lou Gehrig
5.Barry Bonds
6.Frank Thomas
7.Jimmie Foxx
8.Willie Mays
9.Ty Cobb
10.Hank Aaron

[538280]

1) Babe Ruth
2) Ted Williams
3) Barry Bonds
4) Ty Cobb
5) Rogers Hornsby
6) Lou Gehrig
7) Honus Wagner
8) Stan Musial
9) Frank Thomas
10) Mickey Mantle
Notables: Hank Aaron, Jimmie Foxx, Eddie Collins, Mike Schmidt, Tris Speaker

Wagner really doesn't belong on that list. This is just about pure hitting, so the positional adjustment really shouldn't be factored in. When comparing him to the other best of all time, a 150 OPS+ in the 1900s leaves a bit to be desired.

Also, Eddie Collins as an honorable mention? Over Mays?

[Bothrops Atrox]

1. Babe Ruth
2. Ted Williams
3. Ty Cobb
4. Lou Gehrig
5. Barry Bonds
6. Rogers Hornsby
7. Jimmie Foxx
8. Mickey Mantle
9. Stan Musial
10. Hank Aaron

[thenextsuperstar]

1. Ruth
2. Williams
3. Hornsby
4. Lou Gehrig
5. Joe Jackson
6. Foxx
7. Mantle
8. Stan Musial
9. Frank Thomas
10. Dan Brouthers/ Manny Ramirez

[leecemark]

1) Babe Ruth
2) Ted Williams
-------------gap
3) Mickey Mantle
4) Henry Aaron
5) Willie Mays
6) Rogers Hornsby
7) Ty Cobb
8) Joe DiMaggio
9) Frank Thomas
10) Dick Allen
--The last two don't make my top 50 players, but they sure could rake when they felt like it.
HM; Dan Brouthers, Joe Jackson, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, Johnny Mize, Reggie Jackson, Mike Schmidt and Barry Bonds. Several of the HMs could easily bump the last 3.

[csh19792001]

1. Ruth
2. Williams
3. Hornsby
4. Lou Gehrig
5. Joe Jackson
6. Foxx
7. Mantle
8. Stan Musial
9. Frank Thomas
10. Dan Brouthers/ Manny Ramirez

This is a joke, right?

I'll allow a 13 year old kid to almost leave Ty Cobb off a list of top 10 greatest hitters, but I assume you're an adult with some historical/research background. This is silly, and I hope the indiscretion is the result of a typo.

[thenextsuperstar]

This is a joke, right?

I'll allow a 13 year old kid to almost leave Ty Cobb off a list of top 10 greatest hitters, but I assume you're an adult with some historical/research background. This is silly, and I hope the indiscretion is the result of a typo.

Actually it is typo he is suposed to be listed at number 8. my bad. I typed this pretty quick. Thomas, Manny, and Brouthers were supposed to be just at number 10.

I'll also take this time to note that list is just a quick ranking on players i consider to be the elite all time pure hitters. Bonds is left being left out on purpose. If look at the numbers before the using the "clear." he just misses the top group.

1. Ruth
2. Williams
3. Hornsby
4. Lou Gehrig
5. Joe Jackson
6. Foxx
7. Mantle
8. Ty Cobb
9. Stan Musial
10. Frank Thomas/ Dan Brouthers/ Manny Ramirez

[leecemark]

--Yeh, I 'm probably giving Allen too much credit for what he could have done, had he really applied himself. Great player in spite of wasting a huge chuck of his talent.

[Chisox]

I would rather not, but anyway. Including post-season,
01.Babe Ruth
02.Barry Bonds
03.Lou Gehrig
04.Hank Aaron
05.Ted Williams
06.Jimmie Foxx
07.Stan Musial
08.Willie Mays
09.Frank Robinson
10.Joe DiMaggio

My reason for leaving off Cobb, If he had made my top 10, I would have had him my #2 player ever. I don't, I have him #5, so considering it's his running and CF that push him ahead of others, I think outside of top 10 is justified. (Notice that they all combine power and pure-hitting, too.)