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  • Best Hitters of all-time?

    We haven't had one of these in a while so lets see

    1. Babe Ruth
    2. Ted Williams
    3. Barry Bonds *
    4. Ty Cobb
    5. Lou Gehrig
    6. Rogers Hornsby
    7. Jimmie Foxx
    8. Stan Musial
    9. Josh Gibson
    10. Mickey Mantle




    * Steroid Cloud
    Last edited by Myankee4life; 11-15-2005, 02:19 PM.
    "I was pitching one day when my glasses clouded up on me. I took them off to polish them. When I looked up to the plate, I saw Jimmie Foxx. The sight of him terrified me so much that I haven't been able to wear glasses since." - Left Gomez

    "(Lou) Gehrig never learned that a ballplayer couldn't be good every day." - Hank Gowdy

  • #2
    better make it just major league players, or else we'll have some stupid flame war over negro league players and white players...lol.

    and bonds probably took steroids. ever since mcguire hit 70 HR in 1998, its funny how everyone started hitting 50 + HR since then.

    mcguire, bonds and probably sosa took steroids. sosa also used a corked bat.
    http://www.blackbetsy.com/movies/joeatbat.mpg

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    • #3
      Top 20 All-Time Batting Average
      1. Ty Cobb .3664
      2. Rogers Hornsby .3585
      3. Joe Jackson .3558
      4. Lefty O'Doul .3493
      5. Ed Delahanty .3459
      6. Tris Speaker .3447
      7. Ted Williams .3444
      8. Billy Hamilton .3443
      9. Dan Brouthers .3421
      Babe Ruth .3421
      11. Dave Orr .3420
      12. Harry Heilmann .3416
      13. Pete Browning .3415
      14. Willie Keeler+ .3413
      15. Bill Terry .3412
      16. George Sisler .3402
      17. Lou Gehrig .3401
      18. Jake Stenzel .3386
      19. Jesse Burkett .3384
      20. Tony Gwynn .3382

      Top 20 All-Time Slugging Percentage
      1. Babe Ruth .6897
      2. Ted Williams .6338
      3. Lou Gehrig .6324
      4. Albert Pujols .6208
      5. Barry Bonds .6109
      6. Jimmie Foxx .6093
      7. Todd Helton .6072
      8. Hank Greenberg .6050
      9. Manny Ramirez .5988
      10. Mark McGwire .5882
      11. Vladimir Guerrero .5865
      12. Joe DiMaggio .5788
      13. Alex Rodriguez .5772
      14. Rogers Hornsby .5765
      15. Frank Thomas .5677
      16. Larry Walker .5652
      17. Albert Belle .5638
      18. Jim Thome .5621
      19. Johnny Mize .5620
      20. Ken Griffey .5609

      Top 20 All-Time Homeruns
      1. Hank Aaron 755
      2. Babe Ruth 714
      3. Barry Bonds 708
      4. Willie Mays 660
      5. Sammy Sosa 588
      6. Frank Robinson 586
      7. Mark McGwire 583
      8. Harmon Killebrew 573
      9. Rafael Palmeiro 569
      10. Reggie Jackson 563
      11. Mike Schmid 548
      12. Ken Griffey 536
      Mickey Mantle 536
      14. Jimmie Foxx 534
      15. Willie McCovey 521
      Ted Williams+ 521
      17. Ernie Banks 512
      Eddie Mathews 512
      19. Mel Ott 511
      20.Eddie Murray 504

      Top 20 All-Time Hits
      1. Pete Rose 4256
      2. Ty Cobb 4189
      3. Hank Aaron 3771
      4. Stan Musial 3630
      5. Tris Speaker 3514
      6. Carl Yastrzemski 3419
      7. Cap Anson 3418 R
      8. Honus Wagner 3415
      9. Paul Molitor 3319 R
      10. Eddie Collins 3315
      11. Willie Mays 3283
      12. Eddie Murray 3255
      13. Nap Lajoie 3242
      14. Cal Ripken 3184
      15. George Brett 3154
      16. Paul Waner 3152
      17. Robin Yount 3142
      18. Tony Gwynn 3141
      19. Dave Winfield 3110
      20. Rickey Henderson 3055

      Top 20 All-Time On Base Percentage
      1. Ted Williams .4817
      2. Babe Ruth .4739
      3. John McGraw .4657
      4. Billy Hamilton .4552
      5. Lou Gehri .4474
      6. Barry Bond .4424
      7. Bill Joyce .4349
      8. Rogers Hornsby .4337
      9. Todd Helton .4331
      10. Ty Cobb .4330
      11. Jimmie Foxx .4283
      12. Tris Speaker .4280
      13. Frank Thomas .4270
      14. Eddie Collins .4244
      15. Ferris Fain .4241
      16. Dan Brouthers .4233
      17. Max Bishop .4227
      Joe Jackson .4227
      19. Mickey Mantle .4205
      20. Mickey Cochrane .4192

      Top 20 All-Time OPS
      1. Babe Ruth 1.1636 L
      2. Ted Williams 1.1155
      3. Lou Gehrig 1.0798
      4. Barry Bonds 1.0533
      5. Todd Helton 1.0404
      6. Jimmie Foxx 1.0376
      7. Albert Pujols 1.0372
      8. Hank Greenberg 1.0169
      9. Rogers Hornsby 1.0103
      10. Manny Ramirez 1.0076
      11. Frank Thomas .9947
      12. Mark McGwire .9823
      13. Mickey Mantle .9773
      14. Joe DiMaggio .9771
      Vladimir Guerrero .9771
      16. Stan Musial .9757
      17. Lance Berkman .9728
      18. Jim Thome .9703
      19. Larry Walker .9654
      20. Alex Rodriguez .9625

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      • #4
        Top 20 All-Time Slugging Percentage
        1. Babe Ruth .6897
        2. Ted Williams .6338
        3. Lou Gehrig .6324
        4. Albert Pujols .6208


        Woah, I never knew Pujols is 4th all-time in SLG%
        "I was pitching one day when my glasses clouded up on me. I took them off to polish them. When I looked up to the plate, I saw Jimmie Foxx. The sight of him terrified me so much that I haven't been able to wear glasses since." - Left Gomez

        "(Lou) Gehrig never learned that a ballplayer couldn't be good every day." - Hank Gowdy

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        • #5
          Ruth
          Cobb
          Williams
          Gehrig
          Wagner
          Hornsby
          Sh. Jackson
          Aaron
          Musial
          Speaker


          -- Any chance you could do a list of "relative" stats, or whatever would put deadballers' power numbers into perspective? Hardly fair to judge their power based on the All Time HR list. Same with hits, maybe we should list h/162 or somethin'. Just an idea.

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          • #6
            1) Babe Ruth
            2) Ted Williams
            3) Barry Bonds
            4) Ty Cobb
            5) Rogers Hornsby
            6) Lou Gehrig
            7) Honus Wagner
            8) Stan Musial
            9) Frank Thomas
            10) Mickey Mantle
            Notables: Hank Aaron, Jimmie Foxx, Eddie Collins, Mike Schmidt, Tris Speaker

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            • #7
              1.Babe Ruth
              2.Ted Williams
              3.Mickey Mantle
              4.Lou Gehrig
              5.Barry Bonds
              6.Frank Thomas
              7.Jimmie Foxx
              8.Willie Mays
              9.Ty Cobb
              10.Hank Aaron
              Last edited by 538280; 11-15-2005, 05:46 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by [email protected]
                1) Babe Ruth
                2) Ted Williams
                3) Barry Bonds
                4) Ty Cobb
                5) Rogers Hornsby
                6) Lou Gehrig
                7) Honus Wagner
                8) Stan Musial
                9) Frank Thomas
                10) Mickey Mantle
                Notables: Hank Aaron, Jimmie Foxx, Eddie Collins, Mike Schmidt, Tris Speaker
                Wagner really doesn't belong on that list. This is just about pure hitting, so the positional adjustment really shouldn't be factored in. When comparing him to the other best of all time, a 150 OPS+ in the 1900s leaves a bit to be desired.

                Also, Eddie Collins as an honorable mention? Over Mays?

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                • #9
                  1. Babe Ruth
                  2. Ted Williams
                  3. Ty Cobb
                  4. Lou Gehrig
                  5. Barry Bonds
                  6. Rogers Hornsby
                  7. Jimmie Foxx
                  8. Mickey Mantle
                  9. Stan Musial
                  10. Hank Aaron
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                  The Top 100 Pitchers In MLB History
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                  • #10
                    1. Ruth
                    2. Williams
                    3. Hornsby
                    4. Lou Gehrig
                    5. Joe Jackson
                    6. Foxx
                    7. Mantle
                    8. Stan Musial
                    9. Frank Thomas
                    10. Dan Brouthers/ Manny Ramirez

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                    • #11
                      1) Babe Ruth
                      2) Ted Williams
                      -------------gap
                      3) Mickey Mantle
                      4) Henry Aaron
                      5) Willie Mays
                      6) Rogers Hornsby
                      7) Ty Cobb
                      8) Joe DiMaggio
                      9) Frank Thomas
                      10) Dick Allen
                      --The last two don't make my top 50 players, but they sure could rake when they felt like it.
                      HM; Dan Brouthers, Joe Jackson, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, Johnny Mize, Reggie Jackson, Mike Schmidt and Barry Bonds. Several of the HMs could easily bump the last 3.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by thenextsuperstar
                        1. Ruth
                        2. Williams
                        3. Hornsby
                        4. Lou Gehrig
                        5. Joe Jackson
                        6. Foxx
                        7. Mantle
                        8. Stan Musial
                        9. Frank Thomas
                        10. Dan Brouthers/ Manny Ramirez
                        This is a joke, right?

                        I'll allow a 13 year old kid to almost leave Ty Cobb off a list of top 10 greatest hitters, but I assume you're an adult with some historical/research background. This is silly, and I hope the indiscretion is the result of a typo.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by csh19792001
                          This is a joke, right?

                          I'll allow a 13 year old kid to almost leave Ty Cobb off a list of top 10 greatest hitters, but I assume you're an adult with some historical/research background. This is silly, and I hope the indiscretion is the result of a typo.

                          Actually it is typo he is suposed to be listed at number 8. my bad. I typed this pretty quick. Thomas, Manny, and Brouthers were supposed to be just at number 10.

                          I'll also take this time to note that list is just a quick ranking on players i consider to be the elite all time pure hitters. Bonds is left being left out on purpose. If look at the numbers before the using the "clear." he just misses the top group.

                          1. Ruth
                          2. Williams
                          3. Hornsby
                          4. Lou Gehrig
                          5. Joe Jackson
                          6. Foxx
                          7. Mantle
                          8. Ty Cobb
                          9. Stan Musial
                          10. Frank Thomas/ Dan Brouthers/ Manny Ramirez
                          Last edited by thenextsuperstar; 11-16-2005, 08:26 PM.

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                          • #14
                            --Yeh, I 'm probably giving Allen too much credit for what he could have done, had he really applied himself. Great player in spite of wasting a huge chuck of his talent.

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                            • #15
                              I would rather not, but anyway. Including post-season,
                              01.Babe Ruth
                              02.Barry Bonds
                              03.Lou Gehrig
                              04.Hank Aaron
                              05.Ted Williams
                              06.Jimmie Foxx
                              07.Stan Musial
                              08.Willie Mays
                              09.Frank Robinson
                              10.Joe DiMaggio

                              My reason for leaving off Cobb, If he had made my top 10, I would have had him my #2 player ever. I don't, I have him #5, so considering it's his running and CF that push him ahead of others, I think outside of top 10 is justified. (Notice that they all combine power and pure-hitting, too.)
                              Johnson and now Goligoski gone.
                              I hope that's all.

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