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    To all those who may like to discuss the opinions of the others, feel free to do so here as much as you like.

  • #2
    <Blackout805
    Players:

    6-Dimaggio>

    Not bad for 6800 AB

    <9-Mays>

    All that work down the tubes

    <Rotation:
    11-M Rivera
    12-Grove
    14-Spahn>

    Well, I guess Rivera should be well-rested from all his starts

    <18-Ryan>

    Strikeouts are everything

    <Team A Line-up

    3B- Wade Boggs>

    I'm not sure how he can rate higher than 4th

    <RF- Babe Ruth
    DH- Mickey Mantle>

    I think Mantle was the better fielder

    <Team B:
    3B-Mike Schmidt (soon to be replaced by Arod)>

    Look out for Rolen, Ensberg, MCabrera, Glaus,
    Schmidt who?

    <Closer-Eric Gagne>

    He did have, uh, three really good years

    <most commited opinions:

    1-Dimaggio > Mays or Mantle>

    Thank God he INSISTED on being introduced as the greatest living player
    Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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    • #3
      <Edgartogof:
      my top 20 position players:

      9. Mike Schmidt
      10. Johnny Bench
      11. Stan Musial
      12. Mickey Mantle
      13. Tris Speaker>

      I just can't see Schmidt & Bench over Musial, Mantle & Speaker

      my top 20 pitchers:

      <8. Randy Johnson
      9. Greg Maddux>

      Let's have Randy throw 800 more IP

      <12. Nolan Ryan
      13. Sandy Koufax>

      At least he's consistent

      <All-Time All-Star Team B:

      SS - Alex Rodriguez (has a shot at number one at 3B/SS)>

      Which one?
      Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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      • #4
        <ElHalo:
        Top 20:

        10. Jackson>

        Let's hear it for 5690 plate apps

        <15. Sisler
        16. DiMaggio>

        WOW!

        <Team A:
        OF: Ashburn>

        Is he gonna have to hit?

        <Team B:

        3B: Traynor>

        At least he's not on Team A <sigh>

        <Defensive team A:

        1B: Sisler
        LF: J. Jackson

        Team B:

        LF: Delahanty>

        A lotta hype

        <C:

        9. Bresnahan
        10. Fisk>

        Huh?

        <3B:

        3. Schmidt>

        Not bad for a guy who had no business holding down a big league job

        <7. Mathews>

        At least he wasn't any lower

        <10. P. Martin>

        NOT personal favoritism at all

        <LF:

        1. Williams
        2. Jackson
        3. Musial
        4. Delahanty
        5. Henderson
        6. Simmons
        7. Kiner
        8. Ramirez
        9. Medwick
        10. Goslin>

        Just imagine if they HAD proven Bonds guilty

        <CF:

        6. Ashburn>

        Defense is important, but . . .

        <My beliefs:

        6. If I've got nine innings that I absolute, positively have to win, give me seven innings of Petey Pablo and two innings of Mo.>

        I might have to add this to mine
        Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by RuthMayBond
          6. If I've got nine innings that I absolute, positively have to win, give me seven innings of Petey Pablo and two innings of Mo.>

          I might have to add this to mine
          I don't know, that 7th inning with Pedro might get a little rough.

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          • #6
            538280:
            <Top 100 Position Players of All Time

            14.Joe Morgan
            31.Jackie Robinson
            42.Robin Yount
            68.Jimmy Wynn
            71.Dave Parker
            76.Bobby Bonds
            79.Sal Bando
            97.Wally Berger
            98.Cesar Cedeno>

            High rankings, but what are ya gonna do?

            Top 25 by Position

            <First Base

            16.Mark McGwire>

            Steroids discount?

            <Second Base

            4.Jackie Robinson>

            I'm outnumbered

            <Third Base

            8.Sal Bando>

            He was good, but ???

            <22.Lave Cross
            23.John McGraw
            24.Lave Cross>

            You gotta decide

            <Center Fielders

            8.Jimmy Wynn
            9.Duke Snider
            10.Ken Griffey Jr.>

            Different
            Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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            • #7
              DoubleX:

              <6) The Yankees, contrary to popular belief, are good for baseball. Where would baseball be historically and presently without the Yankees?>

              Giving other teams a chance?

              <They put fans in the seats>

              With that population I should hope so

              <and under the current economics of baseball, they raise significant money for other teams.>

              They raise MORE significant money for themselves

              <7) Some of those other teams need to do a better job of spending the millions that the Yankees earn for them by building better teams for their fans (ahem, Royals, ahem Pirates).>

              If only they could afford to

              <9) Charles Comiskey valued the fans and he valued winning, and he was willing to spend to appease the former and achieve the latter.>

              Whatever.
              But NICE LISTS!
              Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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              • #8
                Wee Willie:

                <Top 50 Position Players:

                43. Gary Sheffield>

                Anyone else got him that high?

                <Most Committed Opinions:

                -- George Sisler was NOT a top-10 first baseman.
                -- Pie Traynor was NOT a top-10 third baseman.>

                I'll duck with ya.
                More pretty good lists
                Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                • #9
                  leecemark:

                  <5) Schmidt
                  6) Mantle
                  7) Musial
                  8) Wagner
                  9) Cobb>

                  Brave man
                  Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                  • #10
                    Sultan_1895-1948:

                    <Top 3-5 at each position and where I rank them overall (1-25) (still a work in progress)

                    First Base

                    Sisler - 18
                    Foxx - 19>

                    A losing battle

                    <Shortstop

                    Ozzie
                    Ripken Jr.>

                    sigh

                    <Opinions

                    Joe DiMaggio [is] still under-rated by far too many.>

                    By as many as who overrate him?
                    Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                    • #11
                      baseballPAP:

                      <Top 20 Pitchers
                      Walter Johnson
                      Roger Clemens
                      Christy Mathewson>

                      Some REALLY love Matty

                      <Rube Foster>

                      I don't remember anyone bringing him up before (he may deserve this)

                      <All Time All Star Teams A/B
                      RF-Babe Ruth/Hank Aaron
                      DH-Mickey Mantle/Ted Williams>

                      After looking at this, Ruth wasn't so bad a fielder but seemed to be better in LF

                      <Reliever-Dennis Eckersley>

                      What a peak reputation will do

                      note: I used guys who actually qualified at the
                      positions…no "shoe-horning"

                      <All Time Defensive Teams A/B
                      LF-Rickey Henderson>

                      Rickey was good but . . .
                      Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                      • #12
                        christian gentleman:
                        <players

                        11. joe jackson
                        13. sisler
                        15. brooks robinson
                        17. mize
                        19. jackie robinson>

                        Don't know what to make of this

                        <pitchers

                        2. christy mathewson
                        3. sandy koufax
                        9. nolan ryan
                        10. roger clemens
                        18. greg maddux
                        20. babe ruth>

                        Now I'm COMPLETELY bamboozled (which ain't hard

                        <all star teams
                        B

                        ss- jeter
                        sp ed ciccotte
                        rp- joe page>



                        <opinions

                        joe jackson had the best swing>

                        How many of you guys actually SAW Jackson's swing?
                        Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                        • #13
                          64Cards:

                          <One Mans Opinions:
                          1]Rating the greats is an exercise in irrelevancy. Unless players competed in the very same time frame, the same league, and playing half their games in the same ballpark, it is an exercise in pure speculation and opinion.
                          .
                          .
                          2]That being said, Babe Ruth is far and away the greatest and most imporatant player, especially considering he was a HOF-caliber pitcher. Unreal. Mays was the greatest all-round player. Koufax, although his peak was limited, the greatest pitcher I ever saw, although I don't know if he was better than Johnson, Grove, Feller. And Albert Pujols is the greatest pure hitter I've seen, going back to 1962.>

                          And yet you rated them anyway

                          <5]Casey Stebgel was the greatest and also entertaining manager.>

                          I might agree on the second part . . .

                          <A rather fun mental execise, Mr. Bill.>

                          . . . but there's no doubt this is true
                          Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                          • #14
                            SABR Matt:

                            <Top 25 Position Players of all time:

                            18) Al Kaline
                            20) Joe DiMaggio
                            21) Mel Ott>

                            Never seen that one before

                            <Top 25 Pitchers of all time:

                            18) Hal Newhouser
                            20) Don Sutton>

                            What does Bill call it, going against the grain?

                            Top Fifteen Players at Each Position

                            <Shortstops
                            2) Robin Yount>

                            Bold

                            <Left Fielders
                            4) Frank Robinson>

                            Why would you not have him as RF?

                            <Center Fielders
                            6) Richie Ashburn>

                            Hm, momentum building
                            Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                            • #15
                              julusnc:

                              <TOP 25 ALL-TIME STARTING PITCHERS

                              10.BOB FELLER>

                              War credit?
                              Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                              Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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