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    Who in your opinion is the greatest Manager in Baseball history? Here's my top three:

    1) Ned Hanlon

    2) John McGraw

    3) Connie Mack
    2009 World Series Champions, The New York Yankees

  • #2
    Joe McCarthy and Casey Stengal don't make the cut?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Rickey_Henderson
      Who in your opinion is the greatest Manager in Baseball history? Here's my top three:

      1) Ned Hanlon

      2) John McGraw

      3) Connie Mack
      None of these are even in the top twenty-five
      Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by four tool
        Joe McCarthy and Casey Stengal don't make the cut?
        Neither of these are in the top twenty-five either
        Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
        Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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        • #5
          I have always liked Dick Williams. He led the BoSox to the WS in '67, the A's in '71-'73 and the Padres in '84. He also had a winning record with the perennially weak Expos each year from 1979-1981, and was one game away from the WS in '81, bowing to LA 3 games to two in the NLCS. He came that close to being manager of FOUR WS teams! He isn't often mentioned in the same breath as Stengel, McGraw, Mack, etc because his overall record wasn't outstanding, but I think he was among the game's greatest motivators. Many of the biggest winners had so many great players to work with, I have tried to avoid them (except for McGraw who was in a class by himself, IMO)

          I love Joe McCarthy as well. There are so many. Here's my top three:

          1) McGraw
          2) Tommy Lasorda (da MAN!)
          3) Dick Williams
          Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't come to yours. - Yogi Berra

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dodgerfan1
            I have always liked Dick Williams. He led the BoSox to the WS in '67, the A's in '71-'73 and the Padres in '84. He also had a winning record with the perennially weak Expos each year from 1979-1981, and were one game away from the WS, bowing to LA 3 games to two in the NLCS. He came that close to being manager of FOUR WS teams! He isn't often mentioned in the same breath as Stengel, McGraw, Mack, etc because his overall record wasn't outstanding, but I think he was among the game's greatest motivators. Many of the biggest winners had so many great players to work with, I have tried to avoid them (except for McGraw who was in a class by himself, IMO)

            I love Joe McCarthy as well. There are so many. Here's my top three:

            1) McGraw
            2) Tommy Lasorda (da MAN!)
            3) Dick Williams

            Not top 25 either

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            • #7
              http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=26517

              Wink, wink.
              "And their chances of getting back into this ballgame are growing dimmer by the batter."


              Put it in the books.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AlecBoy006
                Not top 25 either
                Well dang, we probably agree on this too Everybody always gives the Yank managers that were given all the horses. You guys forgot Torre
                Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                • #9


                  Early Years: Harry Wright, Cap Anson, Frank Selee & Ned Hanlon

                  Transition Years: Little Napolean McGraw

                  Early Modern Era: Miller Huggins

                  Modern: Joe McCarthy, Casey Stengel, Al Lopez & Walter Alston

                  Modern Contenders: Sparky Anderson, Bobby Cox, Tony La Russa & Joe Torre

                  ___________________________________________________ _______________

                  If I could only pick one Modern Guy: Joe McCarthy

                  The Most Underrated: Al Lopez

                  Last edited by TRfromBR; 02-08-2007, 06:24 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Joe McCarthy
                    "I was pitching one day when my glasses clouded up on me. I took them off to polish them. When I looked up to the plate, I saw Jimmie Foxx. The sight of him terrified me so much that I haven't been able to wear glasses since." - Left Gomez

                    "(Lou) Gehrig never learned that a ballplayer couldn't be good every day." - Hank Gowdy

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                    • #11
                      I like Walter Alston because his teams won a World Series with the powerful mid-50s Dodgers and then with pitching a decade later... not that the other sides weren't good, but the Snider lineups and Koufax rotations were like standards after WWII.

                      But he isn't for greatest ever, necessarily. Bobby Cox is something else.
                      Last edited by plask_stirlac; 02-08-2007, 06:47 PM.
                      (fantasy football)
                      JM: Only did that for a couple of years and then we had a conspiracy so it kind of turned me sour. Our league's commissioner, Lew Ford(notes) at the time, was doing some shady things that ... I'd rather not talk about [laughs].
                      DB: Isn't he in Japan right now?
                      JM: I don't know where Lou is right now. He's probably fleeing the authorities [laughs].

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Myankee4life
                        Joe McCarthy
                        Of all of those mentioned, McCarthy never suffered a losing season. Unheard of!

                        Brownie31

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                        • #13
                          McCarthy had the luck of always having great talent on his teams before he arrived, in the Cubs he had Hosrnsby, Cuyler, Hack Wilson, and Hartnett. Later in the Yankees he had Dickey, Ruth in his last years, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Gordon, etc. And later with Boston he had Ted Williams, Dom DiMaggio, Vern Stephens, and other great players, he was the Phil Jackson of Baseball.

                          Of the current managers, only 2 good managers come to mind, Bobby Cox and Tony LaRussa, made the Blue Jays to a contender in the mid-1980s, and later as GM and later Manager of the Braves in the 1990s, he built another contender team, for years and years.
                          Last Player to hit for the Cycle: Matt Kemp, San Diego Padres (August 14, 2015)

                          Last Pitcher to throw a Regular Season No-Hitter: Max Scherzer, Washington Nationals 2-0 (October 3, 2015)

                          Last Pitcher to throw a Postseason No-Hitter: Roy Halladay, Philadelphia Phillies 4-0 (October 6, 2010)

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                          • #14
                            I'd add Herzog as one the best recent mgrs. His work with K.C. and St.L. was excellent.

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                            • #15
                              Walter Alston is my pick. Hands down.

                              Alston won 7 pennants and 4 World Championships with the Dodgers. He did this in a highly competitive National League. He won a World Championship with a great team (the 1955 Dodgers) and with a terrible team (the 1959 Dodgers, possibly the worst World Champion ever). He was not a self promoter, but he led with quiet strength.

                              Alston never gave alibis, never. He, and he alone, faced the press after the 1962 debacle, in which the Dodgers, a super team, let a pennant slip away in a 3 game playoff. He called his whole team out and challenged them to a fight during a complaint session on a bus in 1963; the Dodgers zoomed to the World Championship from then on.

                              Alston won World Championships under intense pressure. In 1955, he was being compared to Charlie Dressen, who won the pennant in 1953. In 1959, his job was in jeopardy after the Braves won 2 pennants in a row. In 1963, he was under the gun for the slipping away of the 1962 pennant, and he had both Dressen AND Leo Durocher competing for his job.

                              Alston was quiet. He managed in New York and Los Angeles, but never seemed to get much fame from that; he was surprisingly anonymous, and I am surprised that more people haven't mentioned him in this thread. If I wanted to find a manager that could win under ANY circumstances, my search would start with Walter Alston, who did, in fact, win under a wider variety of circumstances than any other manager I can think of.
                              "I do not care if half the league strikes. Those who do it will encounter quick retribution. All will be suspended and I don't care if it wrecks the National League for five years. This is the United States of America and one citizen has as much right to play as another. The National League will go down the line with Robinson whatever the consequences. You will find if you go through with your intention that you have been guilty of complete madness."

                              NL President Ford Frick, 1947

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