Best Position Players of All Time - #23

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--Congratulations to Johnny Bench for joining our list of all time greats. Elected so far;
1) Babe Ruth
2) Ty Cobb
3) Willie Mays
4) Honus Wagner
5) Ted Williams
6) Barry Bonds
7) Tris Speaker
8) Stan Musial
9) Lou Gehrig
10) Hank Aaron
11) Mickey Mantle
12) Rogers Hornsby
13) Eddie Collins
14) Mike Schmidt
15) Oscar Charleston
16) Josh Gibson
17) Joe DiMaggio
18) Frank Robinson
19) Joe Morgan
20) Jimmie Foxx
21) Nap Lajoie
22) Johnny Bench
--Please vote for your next 10 best, numbered 1-10.

[abacab]

1. Mel Ott
2. Rickey Henderson
3. Pop Lloyd
4. Eddie Mathews
5. Yogi Berra
6. George Brett
7. Ken Griffey Jr.
8. Alex Rodriguez
9. Carl Yastrzemski
10. Jackie Robinson

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My Ballot

1) Rickey Henderson - best leadoff man ever, maybe best player of the 80s
2) Alex Rodriguez - best first half ever?
3) Pop Lloyd - best Negro League infielder
4) Yogi Berra - #2 MLB catcher
5) Eddie Mathews - #2 3B ever
6) George Brett - just a hair behind mathews
7) Cap Anson - best player of 19th century
8) Turkey Stearnes - underrated Negro League great
9) Reggie Jackson - best slugger and AL player of the 70s
10) Mel Ott - best NL player of the 30s
--my 2nd team;
C) Piazza
1B) Murray
2B) Gehringer
3B) Boggs
SS) Ripken
LF) Yaz
CF) Griffey
RF) Crawford
DH) Thomas
Utl) Rose

[dgarza]

1. Mel Ott
2. Dan Brouthers
3. Cap Anson
4. Ed Delahanty
5. Pete Rose
6. Sam Crawford
7. Harry Heilmann
8. Johnny Mize
9. Alex Rodriguez
10. Paul Waner

[Cyclone792]

1) Mel Ott
2) Rickey Henderson
3) Eddie Mathews
4) Pete Rose
5) Arky Vaughan
6) Pop Lloyd
7) Alex Rodriguez
8) Joe Jackson
9) George Brett
10) Yogi Berra

[Freakshow]

1.Ott
2.E.Mathews
3.A.Rodriguez
4.R.Henderson
5.Brett
6.Ripken
7.Anson
8.Berra
9.Lloyd
10.Yastrzemski

[Bothrops Atrox]

1. Mel Ott
2. Cap Anson
3. Rickey Henderson
4. Nap Lajoie
5. Dan Brouthers
6. Joe Jackson
7. Ed Delehanty
8. Yogi Berra
9. Alex Rodriguez
10. Pop Lloyd

11. Ken Griffey Jr.
12. George Brett
13. Al Simmons
14. Charlie Gehringer
15. Carl Yastremzki
16. Hank Greenberg
17. Cal Ripken Jr.
18. Tony Gwynn
19. Eddie Mathews
20. George Sisler

[mac195]

1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Rickey Henderson
3. Yogi Berra
4. Mel Ott
5. Pop Lloyd
6. George Brett
7. Eddie Mathews
8. Ken Griffey Jr.
9. Carl Yastrzemski
10. Turkey Stearns

[538280]

1.Rickey Henderson-greatest leadoff man ever, very underrated, as leadoff men often are
2.Pop Lloyd-2nd best SS, 3rd greatest Negro Leaguer
3.Arky Vaughan-very underrated, 3rd best SS
4.Frank Thomas-3rd best hitter ever.
5.Christobal Torriente-one of the most complete players ever, all time great glove and very good bat as well. DiMaggio light.
6.Eddie Mathews-first really great hitting 3B
7.Jeff Bagwell-Great hitter and fielder from 1B. He just wasn't as good a hitter as Thomas
8.Alex Rodriguez-looks like he'll be the best player of the 2000s, but Pujols poses a threat
9.Reggie Jackson-my favorite player, I think he's underrated here at BBF. Best AL player of the 1970s.
10.Jackie Robinson-Joe Morgan for half as long.

Next up:
11.George Brett
12.Turkey Stearnes
13.Mel Ott
14.Pete Rose
15.Yogi Berra
16.Tony Gwynn
17.Tim Raines
18.Ron Santo
19.Willie McCovey
20.Robin Yount

[Yankee Legend]

1. Roberto Clemente
2. Pete Rose
3. George Sisler
4. Joe Jackson
5. Hank Greenberg
6. Ernie Banks
7. Yogi Berra
8. Mel Ott
9. Al Simmons
10. Jackie Robinson

11. Charley Gehringer
12. Buck Leonard
13. Reggie Jackson
14. Tony Gwynn
15. Roy Campanella
16. Rickey Henderson
17. Harry Heilmann
18. George Brett
19. Willie McCovey
20. Bill Dickey

[538280]

1. Roberto Clemente
2. Pete Rose
3. George Sisler
4. Joe Jackson
5. Hank Greenberg
6. Ernie Banks

16. Rickey Henderson

[baseballPAP]

1- Rickey Henderson-best leadoff hitter ever, except maybe for #3 below
2- Alex Rodriguez-moving up yearly
3- Billy Hamilton (career .455 OBP, 912 SB, 1690 R in only 1591 games!)
4- Ed Delahanty
5- Dan Brouthers
6-Eddie Mathews
7-Pop Lloyd
8-Mel Ott
9-Cap Anson
10-Al Simmons

[abacab]

1. Mel Ott
2. Dan Brouthers
3. Cap Anson
4. Ed Delahanty
5. Pete Rose
6. Sam Crawford
7. Harry Heilmann
8. Johnny Mize
9. Alex Rodriguez
10. Paul Waner

Still puzzled by Heilmann/Waner over Kaline/Clemente... and no Henderson still? He didn't steal ALL his bases in the ninth inning of 10-3 games.

[pretorius]

1) Mel Ott......Great power/average combo. Great longevity. Elite pure hitter
2) Rickey Henderson.....Joe Morgan type of offensive player in a better offensive era.
3) Turkey Stearns...I think the 3rd greatest non-pitching Negro League player.
4) Ed Delahanty......Tris Speaker about a decade before Tris Speaker.
5) George Brett....Did not possess a flaw. Great offensive player.
6) Yogi Berra......Lou Gehrig has nothing on Berra in regards to durability
7) Arky Vaughan.....Underrated beyond belief
8) Pop Lloyd......Greatest Negro League infielder ever.
9) Cal Ripken Jr....Eddie Murray at a more important position
10) A. Rod.....is going to eventually crack the top ten ever probably


11) Ed Mathews.... I may have him undervalued. Overshadowed by teamates
12) Eddie Murray.... A B+ player for about 2 decades
13) Ken Griffey Jr....always overrated. 3rd or 4rth best player of 1990's. Great defensive player.
14) Mule Suttles.....If I had to guess in between Mize and Foxx as a slitter (slugger/hitter)
15) Ivan Rodriguez....Berra jr.
16) Charlie Gehringer.....An elite name. Possessed no weaknesses
17) Cristobal Torriente....I suspect he was alot like Ken Griffey Jr.
18) Joe Jackson....Shortened but outstanding career.
19) Craig Biggio.....Joe Morgan jr.
20) Cool Papa Bell.....Rickey Henderson Jr
21) Roy Campanella...had like a decade of play in N. leagues before having HOF MLB career
22) Wade Boggs.....Had like 6 phenom years. George Brett kinda without pop.
23) Duke Snider....Power overrated. The Manny Ramirez of his day but better within his time
24) Frank Thomas....Offensive juggernaut. As impossible as it seems he probably has had a rougher 2000's then Griffey has.
25) Jackie Robinson...much more then simply a pioneer. Elite second baseman.
26) Hank Greenberg...lost 3 prime years to WWII....kept him from stat milestones.
27) Jeff Bagwell...alot like Greenberg but without war credit.
28) Billy Hamilton....Cool Papa Bell jr
29) Buck Ewing....Considered by many to be the best of 19th century baseball.
30) Mike Piazza.....Greatest white offensive catcher ever. Sub-standard defense docks him heavily though.

[Blackout]

1-Alex Rodriguez
2-Pop Lloyd
3-Frank Thomas
4-Yogi Berra
5-Joe Jackson
6-Ed Delahanty
7-Wade Boggs
8-Cap Anson
9-Tony Gwynn
10-George Brett