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I was reading up on Hornsby and I found out that he received 105 HoF votes in 1936, one year before he retired as a player. Wow! Perhaps I've been a little harsh on The Rajah. 
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Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis -
I was listening to a nationally syndicated radio teh show last week and it made me sick when the host said something about Ryne Sandberg being one of the "two greatest secondbasemen ever" along with Joe Morgan. Hornsby gets no respect. -
Alot of those boobs think that anything that happened before they started watching the game don't count.Originally posted by The CommissionerBuck O'Neil: The Monarch of BaseballComment
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Originally posted by KCGHOST
You make it sound as if MLB existed before 1970?Comment
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Sandberg isn't even a top TEN second baseman...
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yeah, he's more like....11thOriginally posted by SABR MattSandberg isn't even a top TEN second baseman...Comment
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After reading more on Hornsby my support for Morgan as the #1 second baseman has begun to weaken just a bit. I'll keep reading...Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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It is important to remember that voters were allowed to vote for any player in the 20th century, active or not (there was a separate committee for 19th century players). There was no requirement that the player must be retired. Over the course of the elections they institued a one-year retirement requirement and eventually upped it to a five-year wait.Originally posted by Honus Wagner RulesI was reading up on Hornsby and I found out that he received 105 HoF votes in 1936, one year before he retired as a player. Wow! Perhaps I've been a little harsh on The Rajah.
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/hi.../year/1936.htm
Still impressive that he got that many votes, but they were not write-in votes like you would think of today. Since his career was almost over, the voters did have a full body of work to look at.
In fact, 8 actives received votes that year, though none were elected. Hornsby also received votes in 1937, 1938, 1939 (no election in 1940, 1941) before being elected in 1942. So there were two elections after he retired that he didn't get elected in., and actualy received less votes in 1938 then Johnny Evers and Rabbit Maranville (and others I'd consider less deserving).
I'm not taking anything away from Hornsby - I have him as the runaway best 2nd basemen in history, but I don't think the fact that he received votes in 1936 really means that much.
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Tell me about it. He is quite overrated by many.Originally posted by SABR MattSandberg isn't even a top TEN second baseman...Comment
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amen, commish, amen."you don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. just get people to stop reading them." -ray bradburyComment
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I've got him #9.Originally posted by SABR MattSandberg isn't even a top TEN second baseman...Johnson and now Goligoski gone.
I hope that's all.Comment
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Sandberg and Morgan were good, but I would rank Hornsby, Eddie Collins and Nap Lajoie ahead of both of them.Originally posted by The CommissionerLukeComment
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I absolutely agree. I would think that most people possessing a modicum of knowledge concerning baseball history would as well. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case.Originally posted by ApplingComment
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I'm curious....who are your Top 10 2B? And where DO you have Sandberg ranked? I guess what are your rankings of 2B down to Sandberg?Originally posted by SABR MattSandberg isn't even a top TEN second baseman...
Yankees Fan Since 1957Comment
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As of right now:
1) Rogers Hornsby
2) Eddie Collins
3) Joe Morgan
4) Nap Lajoie
5) Charlie Gehringer
6) Jackie Robinson
7) Rod Carew
8) Frankie Frisch
9) Bid McPhee
10) Bobby Grich
11) Lou Whitaker
12) Roberto Alomar
13) Ryne SandbergComment
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