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  • Ubiquitous
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    Originally posted by yanks0714
    Personal foul called on poster for using Foxx and Grove as Red Sox.

    If we were creating teams they would be on the A's all-time team.

    Fisk actually played more games for the ChiSox.
    Best year by a player for a team, not best year by a teams best player at that position.

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  • 64Cards
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    all time Cardinals

    1B-Pujols, 2005
    2B-Hornsby, 1922
    3B-Torre, 1971
    SS-Smith, 1987
    LF-Medwick, 1937
    CF-McGee, 1985
    RF-Musial, 1948
    C-Simmons, 1975

    SP-Gibson, 1968
    SP-Dean, 1934
    SP-Cooper, 1942
    SP-Tudor, 1985
    SP-carpenter, 2005
    RP-Sutter, 1984
    RP-McDaniel-1960

    With the exception of the bullpen, the only players who didn't win an MVP or Cy young were Ozzie [finshed 2nd] Simmons and Tudor [finished 2nd, CYA]
    There wasn't an MVP award in 22, when Hornsby won the Triple Crown. Medwick also won a TC, Musial came within 1 HR of winning a TC and leading the NL in virtually EVERY offensive category.

    I'm biased, but I can't think of any franchise, with the possible exception of the Yankees who can top this team.

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  • yanks0714
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    Originally posted by BoSox Rule
    C: Carlton Fisk, 1977
    1B: Jimmie Foxx, 1938
    2B: Bobby Doerr, 1946
    SS: Nomar Garciaparra, 2000
    3B: Wade Boggs, 1987
    LF: Carl Yastrzemski, 1967
    CF: Tris Speaker, 1912
    RF: Ted Williams, 1942
    DH: David Ortiz, 2005

    SP: Pedro Martinez, 2000
    SP: Roger Clemens, 1987
    SP: Cy Young, 1901
    SP: Lefty Grove, 1936
    SP: Smokey Joe Wood, 1912

    RP: Dick Radatz, 1964

    I honestly didn't think Gordon was the best, but I was too lazy to go past 1998 for a closer at the time.
    Personal foul called on poster for using Foxx and Grove as Red Sox.

    If we were creating teams they would be on the A's all-time team.

    Fisk actually played more games for the ChiSox.

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  • baseballPAP
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    The A's.......
    C-Cochrane 1933
    1B-Foxx 1933
    2B-Collins 1911 or Lajoie 1901 depends on your value of league strength
    3B-Baker 1913
    SS-Joost 1949
    LF-Simmons 1930(Henderson 1990 if you want app. per player)
    CF-Simmons 1927
    RF-Jackson 1969
    DH-Henderson 1990(if not used above) or John Jaha 1999 (actual DH)

    SP-Grove 1931
    SP-Blue 1971
    SP-Waddell 1902
    SP-Shantz 1952
    SP-Zito 2002
    RP-Eckersley 1990
    RP-Fingers 1973

    How's that? The most surprising to me, being a non A's guy was that Tejada didn't fare better. I used Lee Sinis' Saber Encyclopedia and his great RCAA, RCAP and RSAA stats for most of the work.

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  • Sultan_1895-1948
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    someone do the A's please...??

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  • baseballPAP
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    I'll take a shot at my Reds:
    C-Bench 1970
    1B-Ted Kluszewski 1954
    2B-Joe Morgan 1976
    3B-Tony Perez 1970
    SS-Barry Larkin 1996
    LF-George Foster 1977(HM Charley Jones 1884)
    CF-Eric Davis 1987 (HM Cy Seymour 1905)
    RF-Frank Robinson 1962

    SP-Will White 1883
    SP-Bucky Walters 1939
    SP-Dolf Luque 1923
    SP-Noodles Hahn 1902
    RP-Ted Abernathy 1967
    RP-Danny Graves 2000

    Hell of an offense, but the pitching is weak by comparison.....

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  • Sultan_1895-1948
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    Originally posted by F_man8326
    BoSox....No Ruth?

    Ruth in 1916 went 23-12, 23 CG, 9 SHO, 323.7 IP, 170 K, 1.75 ERA.

    I would have expected to see Ruth in the rotation of the Red Sox, with the aforementioned stats.
    BoSox isn't much of a George Herman guy. Don't hold your breath for any mention

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  • The Dude
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    Milwaukee Brewers

    C: Dave Nilsson, 1996 (hard choice; simmons 82-83 is the same level)
    1B: Cecil Cooper, 1980
    2B: Paul Molitor, 1979
    SS: Robin Yount, 1982
    3B: Jeff Cirillo, 1996
    LF: Ben Oglivie, 1980
    CF: Scott Podsednik, 2003
    RF: Jeromy Burnitz, 1999

    SP1: Teddy Higuera, 1986
    SP2: Mike Caldwell, 1978
    SP3: Ben Sheets, 2004
    SP4: Ricky Bones, 1994
    SP5: Ben McDonald, 1996
    Relief: Rollie Fingers, 1981

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  • Ubiquitous
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    For the Chicago Cubs

    Ron Santo 3B(1966)
    Roger Hornsby 2B(1990)
    Sammy Sosa RF(2001)
    Hack Wilson CF(1930)
    Ernie Banks SS(1958)
    Gabby Hartnett C(1937)
    Billy Williams LF(1970)
    Derrek Lee 1B(2005)

    1906 Mordecai Brown
    1920 Pete Alexander
    1918 Hippo Vaugh
    1971 Fergie Jenkins
    1992 Greg Maddux

    1977 Bruce Sutter
    1983 Lee Smith
    1991 Chuck McElroy
    1989 Les Lancaster
    1983 Warren Brusstar
    1980 Bill Caudill

    I picked starting pitchers from all over Cub history because I didn't want to put 5 guys who played from 1905-1908 on the list.

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  • Chisox73
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    I'll give it a shot for the White Sox.

    C- Carlton Fisk(1985)
    1B- Dick Allen(1972)
    2B- Nellie Fox(1959)
    SS- Luke Appling(1936)
    3B- Robin Ventura(1996)
    LF- Albert Belle(1998)
    CF- Joe Jackson(1920)
    OF- Magglio Ordonez(2002)
    DH- Frank Thomas(1994)

    SP- Ed Walsh(1908-Can't argue with a guy who went 40-15 )
    SP- Ed Cicotte(1919)
    SP- LaMarr Hoyt(1983)
    SP- Joe Horlen(1967)
    SP- Richard Dotson(1983)
    RP- Hoyt Wilhelm(1967)
    RP- Goose Gossage(1975)
    RP- Terry Forster(1972)
    RP- Roberto Hernandez(1996)
    CL- Bobby Thigpen(1990)
    Last edited by Chisox73; 01-22-2006, 05:13 PM.

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  • Kroxquo
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    VERY quick research on this, but here is my submission for the Phils

    C - Spud Davis 1932
    1B - Jim Thome 2003
    2B - Nap Lajoie 1897
    3B - Mike Schmidt 1980
    SS - Dick Bartell 1932
    LF - Ed Delahanty 1894
    CF - Billy Hamilton 1894
    RF - Chuck Klein 1930
    SP - Steve Carlton 1972 (arguably the best season by ANY starting pitcher ever)
    RP - Billy Wagner 2005

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  • 538280
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    Originally posted by BoSox Rule
    RP: Tom Gordon, 1998
    You'd be better off with Ellis Kinder, 1953.

    Really, why does Kinder's name never come up among great relief pitchers. He had four years of ERA+ over 150, and a career ERA+ of 124, and it's not like he was pitching 60-70 innings like most modern relief aces, he consistently pitched about 120 innings a season. And I forgot to mention he did all that at Fenway. Very underrated player.

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  • CTaka
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    I'll take a stab at the Giants:

    C Ewing 1888
    1B McCovey 1969
    2B Kent 2000
    SS Aurilia 2001
    3B Davis 1893 (Davis played 133 games at 3B and only 1 game at SS)
    LF Bonds 2001
    CF Mays 1965
    RF Ott 1936

    SP Mathewson 1908
    SP Marichal 1966
    SP Hubbell 1933
    SP Keefe 1885
    SP McGinnity 1904
    RP Nen 2000

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  • F_man8326
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    BoSox....No Ruth?

    Ruth in 1916 went 23-12, 23 CG, 9 SHO, 323.7 IP, 170 K, 1.75 ERA.

    I would have expected to see Ruth in the rotation of the Red Sox, with the aforementioned stats.

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  • BoSox Rule
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    C: Carlton Fisk, 1977
    1B: Jimmie Foxx, 1938
    2B: Bobby Doerr, 1946
    SS: Nomar Garciaparra, 2000
    3B: Wade Boggs, 1987
    LF: Carl Yastrzemski, 1967
    CF: Tris Speaker, 1912
    RF: Ted Williams, 1942
    DH: David Ortiz, 2005

    SP: Pedro Martinez, 2000
    SP: Roger Clemens, 1987
    SP: Cy Young, 1901
    SP: Lefty Grove, 1936
    SP: Smokey Joe Wood, 1912

    RP: Dick Radatz, 1964

    I honestly didn't think Gordon was the best, but I was too lazy to go past 1998 for a closer at the time.
    Last edited by BoSox Rule; 01-22-2006, 07:59 AM.

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